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satyabalu
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#1 Ragheshri

Post by satyabalu »

**I need someone to initiate on the Raga "ragheshri" Reported in the review section -Sanjay AIR concert.
*And Lakshman&others to list out compositions.

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#2 Re: Ragheshri

Post by Lakshman »

songs in rAgEshrI:


Ayyappan ennum daiva maghan alumai konda-Adi-Tamizhannaidasan
Dhimta taratani dhirana dru dru (t)-Adi-Lalgudi Jayaraman
Mareya beda manave ninu hari smaranava-T/Eka-Purandaradasa
Ninaikkada neram illai muruga ninaindu n inaindu-Adi-Madurai Somu
Pazham ni pal ni pazhum vinaiyin-Rupaka-Tamizhannaidasan
Tajhanu dhimta udana dhimta (t)-Adi-Vinai Shesha Iyer
Urugada ullam enru-Adi-T.N.Bala
Yamuna nadi karaiyil-K/Chapu-T.N.Bala

satyabalu
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#3 Re: Ragheshri

Post by satyabalu »

Dhimta taratani dhirana dru dru (t)-Adi-Lalgudi Jayaraman Is it frequently heard? Thanks to Lakshman for the list.

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#4 Re: Ragheshri

Post by mohan »

satyabalu - that tillana is sung quite often by Bombay Jayashri and Sudha Ragunathan.

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Post by ganeshkant »

I heard in an interview that MSV has a special liking for this rAgam and you can hear a lot of songs closely based on this if not exactly.

nALAm naLAm thiru nALAm - kadhalikka nEramillai
nAn oru kuzhandhai = paDakOTTi
bharati kaNNamma = ninaithalE inikkum
ponezhil poothadhu pudhu vAnil - kalankarai viLakkam
angum ingum pAdhai unDu - avarhal

and there are many more

I hope this may be the ArOhaNa,avarOhaNam.I took this from a RTP by SS.

SGMDNDS
SNDMGRS

It seems to be a janyam of "HarikAmbhOji"

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#6 Re: Ragheshri

Post by satyabalu »

*Thank you Mohan& Ganeshkant !NAALAm naaLAm thiru nAALAm - kadhalikka nEramillai&ponezhil poothadhu pudhu vAnil - kalankarai viLakkam.These two I have heard.

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#7 Re: Ragheshri

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BTW Vidya Subramaniam is rendering LGJ thillana in this raga during her concert @BVB on 5th Dec 10 am concert.

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#8 Re: Ragheshri

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Sri. Madurai Somu has composed a very popular Kirtan in the Rag Rageshri. The song is " ninaikada neram illai muruga"
This raga is basically a hindusthani raga and the Aroh and Avaroh notes are given under:

Rag-Rageshree ( Thaat Khamaj) {a Night time raga for for rendition ie between 9pm - 12am)
Aaroha : 'n - S - G - m - D - n - S'
Avroha : S' - n - D - m - G - R - S
Pakad : G - m - D - n - S, S - n - D - m - G - R - S
Vaadi swara is Ga and Samvaadi swara is 'ni'
Pakad : G - m - D - n - S, S - n - D - m - G - R - S

The song is available for listening in humma.com. The Audio link is
http://www.hummaa.com/player/player.php
http://www.hummaa.com/music/song/ninaik ... lai/127419#
The Lyrics are: { Corrections, if any, please correct them}

RAGA: RAGESHRI. Talam: Adi

P: NinaikkAda nEramillai murugA
Ninaindu Ninaindu urugi pAdinEn
A: Ninaitha podu engum vara vendum
Ninaithadellaam NeeyAga vendum
C: Anaithukkondu Nee Adi Mayilinil
Yeri varum Vadivelaa
Ninaittukonde ennai yethi vaipai Muruga
Urugi pAdida Nee enakkarul purivAi

This raga has some resemblances with that of raga 'Bhagheshri or Bhageswari" , also of Hindusthani origin, related to the Kafi Thaat.
having the Aroh: S R g m D n S' and avaroh: S' n D m g R S .
Rag Bhageshri uses G2 and N2 whereas for Rageshri it is G3 and N3.

Please listen to the following link for an awesome rendition of the rag Rageshri by Ustad Rashid Khan.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJlpndzr6y4
Also listen to Rag Bhageshri by Ustad Rashid Khan on this following link and enjoy these 2 ragas and feel at few places their resemblance to one another in the rendition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ut2HHSe ... re=related

There are few other good Audio links for the Rag Rageshri in the http://www.musicindiaonline.com on the following link.
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/list_al ... Rageshree/

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/list_al ... shree/1!q=

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/list_al ... ollection/

A Classical film song in one of the most popular Hindi film " Mughal-e-Azam" sung by Sri. Bade Ghulam Ali Khan ' Shubhadina Ayo Rajadulara'
Year - 1960 is set to Rag Rageshri in Teental, music directed by Naushad
The audio link is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwumeWE- ... r_embedded#!

Also please listen to a rendition of the rag Rageshree by the Sitar Artist Shri. Rohan Dasgupta. This is a very beautiful alaap, so incredibly peaceful and melodious rendition. Please listen to this and absorbit as a whole experience. The link is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOnVfP4Ylb4

Please correct me for any errors on the above postings. Thank you
RadheKrishna

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#9 Re: Ragheshri

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Here is the meaning given -Shyama Priya - 27-May-2009- "Ninaikkada Neramillai"
There not a single moment when I don't think of you, Murugaa...thinking and thinking of You I am dissolved into singing this song from the depths of my heart....with my heart melting for you..............please appear before me as you appear in all of my thoughts...will you let me join you ....Embrace me, come to me astride your peacock..

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#10 Re: Ragheshri

Post by satyabalu »

* Kanainbam kanindadeno kadhal tirumana orvalam thano---Film?
* Ennaialum premaiy.................................? Film?
Are these based on this Raga?

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#11 Re: Ragheshri

Post by ganeshkant »

satyabalu wrote:Kanainbam kanindadeno kadhal tirumana orvalam thano---Film?
* Ennaialum premaiy.................................? Film?
kANAinbam - bAgesri

The other song,is it 'ennaiyALum mEri mAthA' ?

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#12 Re: Ragheshri

Post by Ranganayaki »

hariharan wrote: 14 Feb 2012, 17:04 Sri. Madurai Somu has composed a very popular Kirtan in the Rag Rageshri. The song is " ninaikada neram illai muruga"
This raga is basically a hindusthani raga and the Aroh and Avaroh notes are given under:

Rag-Rageshree ( Thaat Khamaj) {a Night time raga for for rendition ie between 9pm - 12am)
Aaroha : 'n - S - G - m - D - n - S'
Avroha : S' - n - D - m - G - R - S
Pakad : G - m - D - n - S, S - n - D - m - G - R - S
Vaadi swara is Ga and Samvaadi swara is 'ni'
Pakad : G - m - D - n - S, S - n - D - m - G - R - S


This raga has some resemblances with that of raga 'Bhagheshri or Bhageswari" , also of Hindusthani origin, related to the Kafi Thaat.
having the Aroh: S R g m D n S' and avaroh: S' n D m g R S .
Rag Bhageshri uses G2 and N2 whereas for Rageshri it is G3 and N3.

Please correct me for any errors on the above postings. Thank you
RadheKrishna
One little error:
for Rageshri it is G3 and N3.

It is G3 and N2. As you said, it is Khamaj thaat. If it were N3, it would be Bilawal thaat.

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#13 Re: Ragheshri

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Historically I read some time some where that Trichur Ramachandran has sung an RTP in Rageshri. There were also review from bangalore where sanjay subrahmanyan also sang a RTP in Rageshri. I am bit hazy in stating that trichur brothers also tried a rtp in rageshri. It is quite a distinct raga from bhageshri , for me hearing repeatedly few thukkadas sung and popularized by madurai somu and few manaseega sishyas have got a bit more rageshri stickiness. I am assuming just like saying kambOdhi as kAmboji, it is ok for us to say and write as rakeshri or rageshri interchangably .I am also assuming it is a successful import championed by Madurai Somu from hindustani land.

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Post by rajalakshmi »

I want notation for Naalam Naalam Thirunaalam song. Please help me. My mail id is

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