Janya's of SHANMUKHAPRIYA

vs_manjunath · Post by **vs_manjunath** » 09 Oct 2006, 15:32

Shanmukhapriya being such a famous Raga, why it's Janya's are not famous ??

Only the Raga Chintamani created by Sri Shyama Shastri and the famous song " Devi Brova Samayamide " singly stand out as one of the Janya Ragas of Shanmmukhapriya.

I do know a janya named "TRIMURTHI" in which Panchamam is varjyam in both Arahonam & Avarohanam. Of course, plenty of janya ragas of Shanmukhapriya are listed in Music Books.

Can rasikas through some light on this.

jayaram · Post by **jayaram** » 10 Oct 2006, 02:00

Gopikatilakam (dhaivata varjyam) is a janya of Shanmukhapriya that was a favorite in Madurai Somu's repertoire (kriti: Maha Ganapati)

vs_manjunath · Post by **vs_manjunath** » 12 Oct 2006, 09:56

Thanks Jayaram for this useful info.Yours is the solitary reply, I have received out of 100 Views, Congratulations!! I have also heard this by Madurai Somu. Who is the composer of this song ??

Radhakrishnan · Post by **Radhakrishnan** » 12 Oct 2006, 11:04

vs_manjunath wrote:Shanmukhapriya being such a famous Raga, why it's Janya's are not famous ??

janya rAgAs of a popular janaka rAga need not be popular and vice versa

sumanEsa ranjani is a janya of shanmukha priya( rishabham and dhaivatham missing both in aro and ava)
here is a composition of S.Rajaram,grandson of Mysore Vasudevachar , sung by Hariprasad.

http://rapidshare.de/files/36425466/har ... i.mp3.html

meena · Post by **meena** » 12 Oct 2006, 11:12

here is a composition of S.Rajaram,grandson of Mysore Vasudevachar

was he the principal of kalakshetra or did he teach there?

Radhakrishnan · Post by **Radhakrishnan** » 12 Oct 2006, 11:23

He was a Producer in AIR,joined Kalakshetra after retirement,as Principal and became itÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s Director later.He has with him all the compositions of Vasudevachar,with notation.

vs_manjunath · Post by **vs_manjunath** » 12 Oct 2006, 19:04

Dear Radhakrishnan Sir,

Thanks for SUMANESHARANJANI.

Very lovely song by S Rajaram & melodiously sung with bhavam by Hariprasad.
In the Raga Alapana, the artiste nicely brings out the absence of Rishabha & Daivatham. Similarly. TRIMURTHY raga can be expanded without any problem. I have a vague feeling that Dr.Muthiah Bhagavathar(HMB) must have made some compositions in the Janyas of Shanmukhapriya. Unknown Ragas such as NIROSHTA;GAUDAMALHAR;KARNARANJANI etc., have been handled by HMB.

It's nice that this thread has provided the oppurtunity to enjoy
" SUMANESHARANJANI"

msakella · Post by **msakella** » 12 Oct 2006, 20:27

Dear Mr. Radhakrishnan, The correct name of that beautiful raga is SUMANASARANJANI, but not Sumanesaranjani. amsharma.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 12 Oct 2006, 20:30

Could I request lakshman/meena to oblige with the lyrics of the pArvati patE...

Radhakrishnan · Post by **Radhakrishnan** » 12 Oct 2006, 21:01

Pallavi
pArvatI patE pAhimAm jagatpatE
A.P
sarVa kAmya dAyakA srI shanmukhajanakA
surapUjita padayugala galadhrita bhIkara garalA
C
dEva dEva mahA dEva dAsoham sadA siva
sivAmrita bhava bhava dAraka sankaraharakAlatmaka
bhAvaja hara karunAkara bhasma bhUsha charmAmbara
bhAvuka phala dAna chatura bhakta priya paramEswara

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 12 Oct 2006, 21:40

Tahnks Radhakrishnan
shanmukhajanakA is the nice subtle way of indicating the raga!

vs_manjunath · Post by **vs_manjunath** » 14 Oct 2006, 21:52

I have a question to amshrama garu(msakella).
Kindly describe the differences between
1 ) Kapi & Hindusthani Kapi
Jagadhodhrana as sung by MSS & KVN, is it in Hindusthani Kapi ??

2) Kaanada & Durbari Kaanada

Thanks in advance

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 14 Oct 2006, 22:34

Is pArvatIpatE in sumanasaranjani? What is the tALA?

Radhakrishnan · Post by **Radhakrishnan** » 15 Oct 2006, 14:06

Lakshman wrote:Is pArvatIpatE in sumanasaranjani? What is the tALA?

As per the information provided by the singer Hariprasad, it is sumanesa ranjani,but according to msakella sir it is sumanasa ranjani.But the no confusion regarding tALa Adi,tisra nada

msakella · Post by **msakella** » 22 Dec 2006, 15:04

Dear member, vs manjunath, Yesterday, accidentally, I happened to see your post asking me to describe the differences between some Ragas.
1) Karnataka Kapi â€“ Janya of 22nd Mela Kharaharapriya â€“ Arohana: s r m p n s, Avarohana: s n d n p m g r s â€“ without any Anya-svara at all. Hindusthani Kapi â€“ Janya of 22nd Mela Kharaharapriya â€“ Arohana: s r m p n s, Avarohana: s n d n p m g r s â€“ with 3 Anya-svaras, Antara-gandhara, Shuddha-dhaivata and Kakali-nishada.

2) Kannada â€“ Janya of 29th Mela Dheera Shankarabharana â€“ Arohana: s m g m D n s, Avarohana:
s n s D p m g m R s. Darbari Kaanada â€“ Janya of 20th Mela Nathabhairavi â€“ Arohana: s r m p D n s, Avarohana: s n s D n p m p G m r s.

Sorry for the delay. amsharma.

vs_manjunath · Post by **vs_manjunath** » 22 Dec 2006, 18:41

Dear AM SHARMA gaaru, Thank you very much.

jayaram · Post by **jayaram** » 24 Dec 2006, 00:21

vs_manjunath wrote:Thanks Jayaram for this useful info.Yours is the solitary reply, I have received out of 100 Views, Congratulations!! I have also heard this by Madurai Somu. Who is the composer of this song ??

Manjunath - Sorry, I missed this posting earlier! I believe Mahaganapatim is Shri Somu's own kriti. Can someone here confirm this please.

mahavishnu · Post by **mahavishnu** » 24 Dec 2006, 03:48

Yes, it is Somu's composition. There is an HMV classic studio recording of this from the 1970s with LGJ & UKS. There is also another one called "mahA ganEsham in" Gopikathilakam sung by Somu(http://www.sangeethapriya.org/Downloads ... lgjpr.html

It is very similar to mahAgapatim bhAvayE. Not sure who the composer of this piece is.

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 24 Dec 2006, 04:14

mahA gaNapatim bhAvayE. rAgA: gOpikAtika. Adi tALA.

P: mahA gaNapatim bhAvayE bhakta manOratha phalapradam parabhrtam
A: mahAdEva satputram ibhava sadgatram bhOgachayakAryam kunjara svarUpam
C: shata mOdaka priyam caturbhujam sarva vihItam vinacara kAraNam
budhajaya mOha mOdaka pradAyakam bhujagarAja vinacara kAraNam

jayaram · Post by **jayaram** » 24 Dec 2006, 15:49

Lakshman wrote:mahA gaNapatim bhAvayE. rAgA: gOpikAtika. Adi tALA.

L-ji, hope you meant gOpikAtilaka above!

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 24 Dec 2006, 18:35

Yes. Sorry about the typo.

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 27 Apr 2007, 04:29

Dear members/Please view and listen to one my creations in SUMANESHA RANJANI- "NEE MANAM KANINDARULVAAYE"popularised by Smt.Raji
Link:http//www.karnatik.com/c3535.shtml

Ramaraj

Sundar Krishnan · Post by **Sundar Krishnan** » 25 Feb 2012, 11:51

25/2/12

In Post # 19, Shri Lakshman has given the Lyrics, with the Ragam as Gopika Tilakam, Adi Taalam.

Composer = ??

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However, M Santanam has sung the same song in Ragam Kedaram here :
http://www.sangeethapriya.org/ -> Login
-> http://www.sangeethapriya.org/Downloads
-> http://www.sangeethapriya.org/Downloads ... /mumbai85/

And the description provided for the song states Lalita Dasar as the Composer :
02_mahaganapathim_bhavayE_kEdharam_lalithadasar_6.73_MB.mp3

The Downloaded Song runs for 7:21 m, and is of Size = 7,058,785 bytes.

So, would like to have :
1) Pl confirm that the Composer is Lalita Dasar.
2) The Taalam of the song rendered in Ragam Kedaram, above by M Santanam

Thanks in Advance (TIA)

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Sundar Krishnan · Post by **Sundar Krishnan** » 25 Feb 2012, 11:59

25/2/12

Further, as I heard the song by M Santanam, there are some diffs wrt the Lyrics given in Post # 19.

I am NOT an expert, but here, I try to give the changed words - "as I could listen to the mp3 file" :
[Words which are not clear, are marked with a "??"] :

As I listened to the song by MSantanam :

P : mahA gaNapatim bhAvayE, (bhakta) manOratha Phala Pradam parabhrtam ? -> Vara Pradam
AP : mahAdEva satputram ibhava, sadgatram (bhOgachayakAryam ??) kunjara svarUpam
C : shata mOdaka priyam, chaturbhujam, sarva vihItam vinacara ? -> Vighna Vinashana kAraNam
budhajaya ? -> Budhashrayam (mOha mOdaka ??) pradAyakam, bhujagarAja vinacara -> BhushaNam (kAraNam ??)

Open to corrections by other members.

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sureshvv · Post by **sureshvv** » 25 Feb 2012, 13:09

Sanjay sang Gopikatilakam recently at Chettinad Vidyashram

ganeshkant · Post by **ganeshkant** » 25 Feb 2012, 18:16

I once heard that Dr.BMK sang a rAgA by name 'prathimadhyamAvati'.If it is so probably it will become a janyam of ShanmukhapriyA.By vEnkatamahi's order hEmavati is behind shanmukhapriyA.I don't know if it is wrong to call 'madhyamAvati' a janyam of nata bhairavi.

classicallover · Post by **classicallover** » 23 Apr 2012, 12:49

Madhyamavati is very definitely classified as janya of Kharaharapriya-22.

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