Hindolavasantam

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vidya
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Hindolavasantam

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An article on raga Hindolavasantam by Ravi Rajagopalan.

http://guruguha.org/blog/2010/10/hindol ... f-tanjore/

There is an interesting snippet of history (from oral tradition) about Yamunamba (which the kRti santAna ramasvaminam refers to in here!).
at the end of the article.

rshankar
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Lovely write-up!

venkatakailasam
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Re: Hindolavasantam

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MDR singing the Ra Ra Sita Ramani in this raga at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njCI6dZ0 ... re=related

MVI rendering same song at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dVqGKYy ... re=related


Santana ramaswaminam rendered by SRJ is at http://www.sangeethamshare.org/murthy/0 ... 0.12.2006/ Serial number 170

venkatakailasam

SriramCarnatic
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Re: Hindolavasantam

Post by SriramCarnatic »

Same song by TM Krishna

http://mio.to/I21L

This is santhana rama swaminatham by SSI

http://mio.to/iHre

Both are musicindiaonline.com links

vs_manjunath
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Re: Hindolavasantam

Post by vs_manjunath »

Excellent article followed by Audio links.
Radha & Jayalakshmi have also sung the song " sAnthAna rAma swAminam"(It may be a commercial)

vs_manjunath
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venkatakailasam wrote:MDR singing the Ra Ra Sita Ramani in this raga at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njCI6dZ0 ... re=related

MVI rendering same song at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dVqGKYy ... re=related


Santana ramaswaminam rendered by SRJ is at http://www.sangeethamshare.org/murthy/0 ... 0.12.2006/ Serial number 170

venkatakailasam
Thanks for unearthing "vintageaudio54" from youtube!
So many unheard voices were heard for exx: Mysore Vasudevacharya;MVI;Lalithangi:Tiger; Bidaram Krishnappa etc; etc

narayan
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vidya wrote: There is an interesting snippet of history (from oral tradition) about Yamunamba (which the kRti santAna ramasvaminam refers to in here!). at the end of the article.
I asked someone who knows the song, to sing it, and to my pleasant surprise, her version of the song had the reticent rishabham ONLY in the yamunamba phrase, in the whole song! Semmangudi and SRJ sing much more of it than this version that I heard.

Also, I've been trying to pick up the song, and I keep singing candra-sUrya nEtram, instead of the other way around. After cintaman ... and cinmatram ..., candra just comes very naturally and I have to go back and retrain my neurons.

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Re: Hindolavasantam

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kalpakam mami plays a varnam in this ragam.

'valachi vacchi' a chauka kaala varnam of ramaswamy dikshitar.

bilahari
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Post by bilahari »

Parassala Ponnammal sings an amazing pAdAra vindamE AgAramE. E-mail me if you want to hear it.
I love this ragam, but it has flashes of sAramati that make it difficult to precisely pin down.

vidya
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bilahari,
Thanks. This is like someone looking at a grandparent and saying , wow you really resemble your grandchild!

davalangi
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Re: Hindolavasantam

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rbharath wrote:kalpakam mami plays a varnam in this ragam.

'valachi vacchi' a chauka kaala varnam of ramaswamy dikshitar.
Bharath - The article mentions the varnam. It also has the audio links for mami's rendition as well as SRJ's.

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There are currently two versions of hindOlavasantam, one with D1 (the original) and the current one with D2. Thyagaraja and Muthuswami Dikshitar both followed the same rAga lakshanam for it, until Thyagaraja's kritis got modified to reflect D2. The original raga is much closer to sAramati.

Also the charanam in santAna rAmaswAminam (at least the way they sing in it today) could be spurious (I have noticed that other than SRJ mama, others sing it with some irregularities). It doesn't appear in the original SSP, and personally IMHO seems too linear and evenly spaced compared to the pallavi and anupallavi. In the SSP, instead of the charanam, there's a chittaswaram, which means it's usually over.

Not only that, virtually every one sings it in the 1-kaLai version, but actually it is supposed to be in 2-kaLai and sung slower than what it is now (or else the SSP phrases do not fit and we lose some gamakas - this has happened to a lot of kritis). Or put this another way, since the kaLai concept came from RTPs, this song is actually supposed to be sung at half the speed it normally is, that's when the gamakas and some rhythmic phrases shine. The charanam in fact only appears in the tamil version of SSP, where it was added by T L Venkatarama Iyer, with the guruguha mudra.

I speculate that maybe the kriti was already changed to 1-kaLai before the charanam appeared, but this is only conjecture.

More on this when I get to hindOlavasantam. For now, I will leave the first track from Dr. TR Aravindhan's "The Lost Melodies" here :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgGO6jpTJj8

PS : For those wondering why I insist this song might have been sung at half speed, play it at 2x and see for yourself. Clearly the modern version has done some landscaping and evened out the hills and valleys.

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