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cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

shankar

You must listen KJY's
'chakravartini ninakku ~jnaan en shilpa gOpuram thurannu'... for a fantastic Hamir kalyani. I wonder whether anybody has a full recording! I will search too! Here is just the first part
http://202.138.97.7/ramgen/~saregama/ML01136.rm

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Post by cmlover »

Finally got the full version. Here it is
http://www.malayalavedhi.com/Music/Musi ... ____KJY.ra

abadri
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Post by abadri »

Meena
One of the best Rama Ninne by GNB I have heard is from the concert where he sings an elaborate Evara Madugudura in Kalyani.Wonder if Badri has it.If not I will dig it out
Sorry folks - don't have this concert with me.
I'm afraid I'll have to force Kji to dig it out.
Kji, sorry for ading to your work and thanks in advance.

rshankar
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Post by rshankar »

CML,
How does one play the files from malayalavedhi.com?
Ravi

Lakshman
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Post by Lakshman »

You scroll to rhe extreme right and click on the green circle with a triangle inside of it (next to RA).

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shankar
The clip I posted plays by itself. As you notice there is a good collection of CM/HM at this site. As Lakshman suggests you can play them! Good site indeed!

thanjavur

Post by thanjavur »

http://www.karnatik.com/ragass.shtml#saaranga
saaranga

65 mEca kalyaaNi janya

Aa: S R2 G3 M2 P D2 N3 S
Av: S N3 D2 P M2 R2 G3 M1 R2 S

Songs : aaNDaaL kalyaaNam (minnal koDiyO) 3 - AMK
aarabhimaanam (caraNam 1) - TPA
bhuvanaatrayutam (pallavi) - BN
Emi dOva balkumaa - T
Ehi trijagadeesha - also shankaraabharaNam - T
enta bhaagyamu - T
gaNanaathanE - PT
intamODi sEya (varNam) - TT
karuNa jooDavayya - T
maamava raghuraama - T
mahaabala gireesham - HB
mahaabalEshwara - HB
neevaaDa nE gaana - T
ODanu jaripE - T
raama ninnE nammitini - RS
shree vishwanaatam bhajEham 10 - D
varadaraaja mupaasmahE - D

Film songs : aruL nyaana vaDivElan (muttukkumaarasaami sharmaa)
ilakkaNam mArudho (nizhal nijamAhiradhu)
Iravum nilavum (Karnan)
konja nEram ennai marandEn (sirittu vaazh vENDum)
Konja neeram ennai marande (urimai kural)
KannE pAppA
maappiLLaiDOy (manampOl maangalyam)
nee vaaDenekaanaa (tyagaiyaa)
Oru dEvadai
sandirOdayam oru peNNaanadO (sandirOdayam)

type: ekanya bhaashaanga (M1) raagam, madhyama kaala pradhana raagam
phrases: rgm1rs
time: evening

First mentioned music literature in the 18th century. We know the technical aspects of
Saranga from the kritis of Thyagarajar and Muthuswamy Dikshitar. It has been mentioned
as a Janya Ragam of Kalyani in GOVINDA's Sankraha Choodamani. Nothing about the Bhashanga
Swaras for this ragam has been mentioned.

It also has 2 other scales: Sa Ri Sa Pa Ma Pa Da Ni Sa, Sa Ni Sa Da Pa Ma Ri Ga Ma* Ri Sa and
Sa Pa Ma Pa Da Ni Sa, Sa Ni Da Pa Ma Ri Ga Ma* Ri Sa
(Ma* is M1).

thanjavur

Post by thanjavur »

Nada Anuboothi

Music Categories > Carnatic - Vocal > Ragas S... > Saranga
has the following tracks,

Arunachala nadham (Dikshitar) by DKJ
Gana Nadane (Periyaswami Thooran) by OST,TVS
Gnana sabhayil (Papanasam Sivan) by Vijay Siva
Karuna joodavaiya (Thyagarajar) by Alathur Brothers
Ram surat guru (Periyaswami Thooran) by KVN
Varadarajam (Dikshitar) by TVS

Aarabhi manam - Ragamalikai (Tarangampadi Panchanada Iyer) by Neyveli Santhanagopalan

Music Categories > Carnatic - Instrumental > Ragas S... > Saranga
has the following track,

Gana Nadane (Periyaswami Thooran) by U Srinivas
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thanjavur

Post by thanjavur »

Sangeethapriya (Saranga) links

Arunachala nadham (Dikshitar)
by DKJ (contribution - Sunil)
http://www.sangeethamshare.org/sunil/gu ... m--DKJ.mp3

by Hyd. Brothers (contribution - HMG Murthy)
Song # 022

by KVN (contribution - HMG Murthy)
Song # 021

by Sanjay
http://www.sangeethapriya.org/Downloads ... upakam.mp3

Inta modi - Varnam (Tiruvottriyur Thyagayya)
by Dr SR
http://www.sangeethapriya.org/cgi-bin/g ... mp3&loc=sr

Kanmaniye solladi (Mazhavai Chidambara Bharati)
by Sudha (contribution - TVG)
http://www.sangeethapriya.org/~tvg/027. ... -937KB.mp3

Mamava Raghurama (Thyagarajar)
by OST (contribution - Vasu Srinivasan)
http://www.sangeethamshare.org/svasu/02 ... aranga.mp3

by SKR (contribution - KL)
Song # 9 in Zip file
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HarishankarK
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Saranga ragam elaborated - any audio links available?

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Namastey all

Can anyone give a clue as to if ragam Saranga has been elaborated to a RTP, Main or Submain level by any artiste - vocal or instrumental.
Mostly what I find in youtube/Sangeethapriya - is all max - short alap and crisp swaras and mostly no swaras.
MDR has sung an elaborate Nee vada ne gana - is it?

If anyone knows pls help and provide link(s)- thanks

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Re: Saranga ragam elaborated - any audio links available?

Post by rajeshnat »

Mods
Merge this thread to saranga thread viewtopic.php?f=7&t=252&hilit=saranga

Harishankark
I can tell few things but let the merge first happen.

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Re: Saranga ragam elaborated - any audio links available?

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14th ashtapathy by Odayalur kalyanaraman andparty

https://youtu.be/5CUGf98C_2gan

Another one faster pace in female voice

https://youtu.be/SrMw2oMVXVY

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Re: Saranga ragam elaborated - any audio links available?

Post by rshankar »

Ponbhairavi wrote: 26 Sep 2018, 16:33ashtapathy
Sir: It should be ashTapadi (अष्टपदि) - a verse with 8 pada/meter. ashTapati (अष्टपति) is a polyandrous woman with 8 husbands (अष्टपति - (%{aSTa4-}) mf(%{-patnI})n (%{-pat}) , having eight husbands TA1r.) - I think they have to be contemporaneous (extending bigamy to octogamy, I guess): I do not think that even the much-married and lovely Ms. Elizabeth Taylor would qualify as a अष्टपति. :)

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Re: Saranga ragam elaborated - any audio links available?

Post by Ponbhairavi »

thanks rshankar. I realise the)விபரீதம் due to my lack of sanskrit knowledge.

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Re: Saranga ragam elaborated - any audio links available?

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Reg elaborate rendition of Saranga, I understand that Vighnesh Easwar rendered a RTP in Saranga in Academy in 2017 season. I have not heard it.

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Re: Saranga ragam elaborated - any audio links available?

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CRama wrote: 27 Sep 2018, 13:19 Reg elaborate rendition of Saranga, I understand that Vighnesh Easwar rendered a RTP in Saranga in Academy in 2017 season. I have not heard it.
Thanks but I need audio recording as well to listen to. RTP in Saranga would be very welcome actually

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Harisankar, Hope you will enjoy this. An elaborate rendition with alapana, neraval, swaram of Gnana sabayil of Papansam Sivan by Palghat Ramprasad. A radio concert.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/fl7ees

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rajesh saranga experiences
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1. Many musicians have sung arunachalam nAtham , this krithi and the raga is bit grand usually musicians take up this kriti with an alapana in between submain and main

2. I would love to hear the RTP that Crama mentioned where vignesh eashwar has sung. i have tasted a combo of saranga-brindavana saranga RTP sung by Suryaprakash . I think apart from me hearing he once sang in chicago which was also reviewed .

3. Nee vada nee gAna is sung by many vidwans / vidushis i particularly cherish one maharajapuram ramachandran rendition that i heard

4. The PT krithi gananathanE is typically sung by TVS and Suryaprakash school .entha bhagyamau the great mMi has sung and has been followed by many with one mandolin srinivas dazzling with his artistry.

5. Vijay siva has sung a rare EmidOva balkuma that i heard . It is a rare thyagaraja krithi in saranga. i think even abhishek has sung it . There is one more rare krithi that Vijay sang , cannot recollect now. Vijay generally takes this raga bit too often than many vidwans/vidushis.

6. One concert vidushi raji gopalakrishnan sang both saranga and kalyani in the same concert with one filler in between .I forgot what she sang that day , only recollect the sabha parthasarathy sabha.

7. saranga varnam inta modi is not that frequent, few instrumentalist have taken this . Personally like saranga varnam openers especially for vocal concerts , voice gets opened well with this stocky raga.

8. ranjani gayathri have sung a saranga-nayaki combo RTP in academy. i have not heard this, there was some write uo.

9. One more saranga series of RTP that i heard in pozhichalur by suryaprakash apart from saranga it had sarangamalhar and saranga nattai , though in raga texture no correlation to raga saranga.

10.If my memory is right , abhishek also has sung a brindavana saranga and saranga combination in an RTP with different lines. I have not heard this , we had some review here.

11. There is also a karuna judavayyya - saranga thyagaraja krithi that maharajapuram santhanam has sung. Not able to recollect apart from santhanam rendition.

Saranga is a very tough raga to impress and it is extremely heavy in texture . Musicians sareeram has to allow on that day to take up this weighty raga. Brother sAranga is heavy and rare and has ceded control to sister kalyani who is fairly ubiquitous especially when vidushi and vidwans throat is konjam thodaiyilla kichu kichu . kalyani is vicks cough drops tablet , saranga is strepsils

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Rajesh, apart from so many Sarangas you have listed- Suryaprakash and Maharajapuram topping the list, there is one more song Mamava Raghurama Marakatha manishyama sung by Maharajapuram Santhanam. IIRC, Maharajapuram Viswanatha Iyer has sung Emitova besides Alathur Bros.

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Musiri's Neevadanegana and his neraval at Sathyambu Nithyambu is brilliant.

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Post by Sivaramakrishnan »

I have listened to Maharajapuram Santhanam rendering 'Endabhagyamu' quite elaborately with alapana, kalpanaswara etc. A sumptuous Saranga.

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Re: Saranga ragam elaborated - any audio links available?

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rshankar wrote: 26 Sep 2018, 18:35
Ponbhairavi wrote: 26 Sep 2018, 16:33ashtapathy

Sir: It should be ashTapadi (अष्टपदि) - a verse with 8 pada/meter. ashTapati (अष्टपति) is a polyandrous woman with 8 husbands....
'Ashtapati' as an exclusive word would mean just 'eight husband(s)' and not necessarily denote 'a woman with eight husbands'. Even to describe husbands of eight women, the usage must be in plurality.

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CRama wrote: 05 Oct 2018, 13:36 there is one more song Mamava Raghurama Marakatha manishyama sung by Maharajapuram Santhanam.
Crama,
I have heard nee vAda nee gAna sung in saranga by maharajapuram santhanam. Where did you hear santhanam singing this mamava raghurama , is that one of your days where you rode your bike in bangalore or trivandrum where you forgot to take the recorder. Are you sure santhanam has sung mamava
Searching in you tube I find mamava raghurama has been taken up by s kalyanaraman and trichur ramachandran. I just heard this krithi for the first time now of SKR and just going to doze off now.

Just recollecting one more great saranga krithi ehi trigadeesha of T it is quite a good number.

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Re: Saranga

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Rajesh,
Don't hear the rAgA much. Other songs which come to mind are: Ramalinga aDigaL's aruL jOthi deivam ennai ANDukoNDa deivam, ambalathE ADuginRa Ananda deivam (a Nataraja song. We have a current thread on that topic). I pariya sobagAva dEvaroLu nA kANE, gOpi janapriya gOpAlanalladE is another. enta bhAgyamuna, yet another. A film song from en vIDu--konjum mozhi maindargaLE...
As for nIvADanE gAna, it was very popular in the fifties, and the satyambu nityambu bit caught our attention because of someone called Ambu in the friends' circle, and it added interest to the song if she were present in the concert!

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Arul jothi deivam is sung in many ragams. I hve heard it in Panthuvarali , Hamsadhwani etc. IIRC, MS has sung in Panthuvarali.

Ee pariya sobagava is sung very frequently in Saranga by TVS.

I have heard Ehi Trijagadeesa by Balamurali.

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Re: Saranga

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Rajesh, Mamava Raghurama by Maharajapuram Santhanam. Enjoy

https://www.sendspace.com/file/4gt9xj

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Harisankar, I located this for you. A wonderful elaborate alapana of Saranga and kriti Eepariya sobagava along with exhaustive kalpana swarams by the duo Ranjani Gayathri. The opening song in this long concert. You will like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0GibT9 ... rt_radio=1

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CRama wrote: 06 Oct 2018, 08:31 Rajesh, Mamava Raghurama by Maharajapuram Santhanam. Enjoy

https://www.sendspace.com/file/4gt9xj
It seems the sendspace website itself is not accessible (at least for me). Any other means to share it?

Regards,
Vinod

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RasikasModerator2 wrote: 21 Jan 2019, 14:32 If you want to share through mediafire, dropbox or soundcloud or googledrive, please don't remove your files, or get a long term paid plan, else the link goes dead when you remove them, or expires after a certain period of time. Even Facebook is more secure in comparison. We recommend uploading to archive.org, Youtube, Vimeo or somewhere where you know your links will last or an online music locker. Here is a handy guide.

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Whatever you said is correct. But the reason here is somewhat different. The link itself may not be dead. It's the DOT compliance problem, which our government has implemented to prevent sharing of illegal contents.

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If you navigate to http://www.sendspace.com you can see the following message :
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