SimhavAhini

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vs_manjunath
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Post by vs_manjunath »

Can rasikas discuss this raga, please ?

vijay
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Post by vijay »

Is this an eka-krithi raga?

vs_manjunath
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Post by vs_manjunath »

nenarunchara nApai ni chala- A thyagaraja song in deshAdi is known.
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meena
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Post by meena »

HHJW composition: ambujakshi pahimam kamakshi . We have discussed this raga on HHJW thread.

arasi
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Post by arasi »

Hello Meena,
I am glad you mentioned it. I had a feeling I had read it...

vs_manjunath
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Post by vs_manjunath »

DRS / rasikas, let us discuss the structure of this raga ?

meena
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Post by meena »

arasi
:)

ramakriya
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Post by ramakriya »

shADava sampUrNa janya of 27th mELa sarasAgi

s g m p d n s
s n d p m g r a

Some recordings of nenaruncharA of tyAgarAja are available commercially. I have heard S Shashank playing the rAga in detail, and the kriti couple of times in a concert.

-Ramakriya
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shishya
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Post by shishya »

There is a commercial recording of DKJ with nenaruncarA. I think the recording also has SrI subramanyO in tODi.

vs_manjunath
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Post by vs_manjunath »

I was motivated to write about this raga after hearing DKJ's recording. His swaraprastaram is very interesting.

Thanks Ramakriya for the structure of SimhavAhini.

shishya-This DKJ cassette recording has in addition the famous kalagada song of shyama shastri 'pArvathi ninnu nere'; MD's shuddasaveri song - EkAmresha nAyike; a lovely Devagandhari and Papanasham Shivam's 'shArade vIna vAdana vishArade'.
The otherside has an excellent Thodi followed by 'Sri Subramanyo ' of MD. I have wriitten all these from my memory. There may be some mistake.
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shishya
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Post by shishya »

vs_manjunath,

I think we are talking about the same recording. For a while this CD was literally stuck in my car CD player... so god knows how many times I have heard it and I must say I enjoyed it every time.

vs_manjunath
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meena wrote:HHJW composition: ambujakshi pahimam kamakshi . We have discussed this raga on HHJW thread.
Meena, can U please provide the link so that I can read much more about SimhaVahini.

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Post by vs_manjunath »

shishya wrote:vs_manjunath,

I think we are talking about the same recording. For a while this CD was literally stuck in my car CD player... so god knows how many times I have heard it and I must say I enjoyed it every time.
The same thing is true with me too. I love to learn especially 'subramanyo mAm '. I have never heard this song sung my any other artiste ?

meena
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Post by meena »

manjunath

to search forum posts: http://rasikas.org/search.php
Look up part 1 of HHJW thread- i think its on page 3 or 4.

Jigyaasa
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Post by Jigyaasa »

Harikeshanallur Muthaiah Bhagavathar has composed simhavAhanA ambA in this rAga. The kriti is set to rUpaka tALa. But I've only heard OF it, not heard it :P

HarishankarK
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Post by HarishankarK »

HKMB composition audio is available in sangeethapriya.org
45.02-Evarunnaru-Simhavahini-Adhi-Patnam_Subramania_Iyer.mp3

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Post by HarishankarK »

HarishankarK wrote: 03 Jul 2018, 08:28 HKMB composition audio is available in sangeethapriya.org
Another composition is 45.02-Evarunnaru-Simhavahini-Adhi-Patnam_Subramania_Iyer.mp3
This raga sounds a lot like Sarasangi

bhakthim dehi
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Post by bhakthim dehi »

In my opinion, musicians can limit themselves in singing the krithi alone or a few avarthanam of svaras in these ragam-s. This is most sensible as it prevent entering into the territory of allied ragas.
Also, these ragam-s can be differentiated well when svaras are sung.

sureshvv
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Post by sureshvv »

no limits in art.

plus it is not as if sarasangi is ruling the roost.

HarishankarK
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Post by HarishankarK »

Yes Sarasangi, a beautiful raga is rarely heard except for Nikela dayaradu. Gopalakrishna Bharathi's which is great composition Unadu Tiruvadi no one sings.

bhakthim dehi
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Post by bhakthim dehi »

It's not a rule (as if rules are being followed everywhere :lol:)
In a raga like this, where there is absence of a single svara only in arohanam or avarohanam, though a musician is conscious enough not to sound like it's allied ragam-s, due to the inherent structure of the scale, doing an alapanam either gives us either a sense of repetition or shade of its allies.
It is a sensible option to sing svaram where in identity is clearly shown.

bhakthim dehi
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Post by bhakthim dehi »

Tyagarajar 's menu juchi can also be added to this list.

shankarank
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Post by shankarank »

Well tyAgarAja is making a point that omitting a note is essential when it comes to such scales, that might get something like a rAgA!

shreyas
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Post by shreyas »

First Edition arts has posted a video on YouTube of TMK singing detailed thanam (almost eight minutes) followed by a lively and sprightly Nenarunchara.

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Post by SivaniVSPG24 »

HarishankarK wrote: 05 Jul 2018, 03:00 Yes Sarasangi, a beautiful raga is rarely heard except for Nikela dayaradu. Gopalakrishna Bharathi's which is great composition Unadu Tiruvadi no one sings.
Yes sir,
But there is a composition of Dr. M Chandrasekharan garu in ragam Sarasangi
Set to rendu kalai adi talam..

https://youtu.be/rRIH5-a7aOg

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