Raga Surya

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V. Santharam
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Post by V. Santharam »

Recently in one of the Sangeethapriya recordings, I found a recording of a vocal rendition of Raga Surya by M Chandrasekaran who had also composed the piece "Surya Prakasha Natesha" . Can any one tell me what is this raga based on? Is it a Hindustani raga?
Since I am new to this forum, I am sorry if this has already been discussed earlier.
Santharam

hariharan
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Post by hariharan »

The Arohana and Avarohana of this rag:SG3M1D1N2S - SN2D1M1G3S. When the gAnthara of the Rag HINDOLAM is changed, you get this raga. This raga is called "Sallapam" in Carnatic Music. Abhangs and Kirtans are sung in this raga in all the present day Bhajan programmes by popular artists like S/Sri Udayaloor Kalyanaraman, Thanjavoor Thyagarajan, Erode Rajamani, OS Sundar and Sri. Ramanujam Bhagavatars.

The popular Abhang "Maje Manoratha Poornakari Deva" is mostly sung in Soorya Rag by the above named Bhajan artists.
Radhe Krishna
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arasi
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Post by arasi »

T.V.Sankaranarayanan's RTP 'sUryA sudhAkara lOChanA, sundara rAmA' is unforgettable.

hariharan
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Post by hariharan »

Please see the thread "
PandurangaYere-A thrilling Abhang of Sri.Premigal Anna -Rag-SOORYA " in the Bhakti forum, posted on 30-09-08 and listen to a bhajan.

V. Santharam
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Post by V. Santharam »

Many thanks for all the responses,
Santharam

rvmony
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Post by rvmony »

Raaga Surya.. is sallapam.. There are few surya based film songs also in Hindi and Malayalam...

Teri Galiyom ham aaye.. (Salil Choudhury in a film by Shakthi samant.)
Evide kattinu sugantham... Salilda same tune copy


Iyal Isai thiruppukash by Yesudas in an album..
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Post by sunayanaa »

arasi wrote:T.V.Sankaranarayanan's RTP 'sUryA sudhAkara lOChanA, sundara rAmA' is unforgettable.
This RTP of TVS is available at http://www.carnaticliveconcerts.com/

Member_First
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Post by Member_First »

I have been singing 'SuryA' rag right from 11 am today but now the effect is heavy rain. Just a testing time for me it seems :D

But I really enjoy 'SuryA'

beginner
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Post by beginner »

MF
U must hv started the rAg SuryA, after chanting 'varuNAya namah' :D

Nevertheless, your attempt (long one, seems) is appreciated.

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Post by sramaswamy »

Just sing "Amruthavarshini", and you should get back the "SuryA"

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

Listen to a delightful kriti and rendition from our dear Ramraj in Surya at
http://www.karnatik.com/c3469.shtml

Member_First
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Post by Member_First »

My continuous singing of Raag SuryA - effect is no rain during Deepavali :D. The old children may thank me for the comfortable crackers session :D :D
While on this rAg, sa gaa(long karvai) and closing with ma as an anu swara, gives a tremendous effect. So is the dha ni Sa Gaa.... Sa.

I have started loving this rAg.

CHELLAM
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Post by CHELLAM »

PandurangaYere-A thrilling Abhang of Sri.Premigal Anna -Rag-SOORYA

PL PROVIDE THE LINK SO THAT WE CAN LISTEN TO THIS SONG

THANKS IN ADVANCE

hariharan
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Post by hariharan »

Abhang written by Sri. Sri. Krishna Premigal Maharaj (Anna) and sung by his 'Sishya' Sri. Thanjavoor Thyagaraja Bhagavathar in a bhajan concert. The language is in Marati and Sri. Thanjavoor 'Thyagu ' had selected the Hindusthani rag Soorya (rag sallapam in CM) for singing this Abhang. Every one enjoy the lyrics beauty and the melody of this fantastic sooya raga-bhavam displayed by sri. Thyagu.
The audio link is;

http://rapidshare.com/files/149607372/P "¦ a.mp3.html

Enjoy listening
Radhe Krishna

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Post by VK RAMAN »

Hariharan: "The file could not be found" message comes.

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Post by hariharan »

Sri. VKR please use this link for downloading the song

http://rapidshare.com/files/158413950/P ... A.mp3.html

Radhekrishna

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Post by VK RAMAN »

Thanks Hariharan.

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Post by kishorepalle »

Surya is one of my all time favourtie ragas. Please listen to my composition at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMvBbdoGuDg and post your comments or suggestions.

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

Kishore: Nice work. Noticed your mudra as well. I assume Srinidhi is the one who as a litte child used to identify ragas. She has sung very nicely. Congratulations!

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Post by kishorepalle »

Thank you for your wishes Vasanthakokilam. Yes Srinidhi is the same kid who was identifying ragas.

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Post by kishorepalle »

Can anyone please clarify my question, I was listening to Isai Arasi on youtube and when Janaki starts singing the Akaaram, it sounds more like Hamsanandhi than Surya but when she resumes the Pallavi, it is clearly Surya.

For your reference, I am referring to the bit that starts at 5:55 till 6:31 at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dWVTlEVEMo

Any help is greatly appreciated.

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Post by vageyakara »

hallo every cm devotee,
Scale wise, despite Ragam Sallabham and Surya may appear to be one and the same, Sallabham has a different identity with a subtle variation in so far as the prayogam of Anthara Ghandharam with a tinge of osciillation , since it is a janya of VAHULABHARANAM(14th meLam.)Whereas SURYA (as adopted by me ) is a Janya of Charukesi (26th MeLam) whewre the same Anthara ghandharam is performed as a plain note .
KR

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Post by vageyakara »

Hallo everyone ,
Pleaseview and listen to my composition in the raga Surya http://www.karnatik.com/c3469.shtml
KRcomments welcome Also please ref post no l2 of this thread by no less a person thn our beloved CM LOVER
KR

( Moderator note: Sri. Ramaraj. We have fixed the link to your composition. If at all possible, visit the actual page, copy and paste the link here. If you just type in the link, errors are bound to occur. Thanks. )
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VK RAMAN
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Post by VK RAMAN »

http://www.acidplanet.com/components/em ... 867&T=3938 - Here is my rendition - slightly different

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Post by vageyakara »

My dear VKR,
despite a little different style of rendition, it is simply good and amazingly devotional.Thank u for your eforts
KR

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Post by srinivasrgvn »

Incidentally, the first time I heard this raga was at the performance of Sri Lalgudi GJR Krishnan with Sri Anil Srinivasan on the piano at the Pada Varnam DVD release function of Sri Lalgudi Jayaraman held at the Music Academy last Friday.

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Post by hariharan »

kishorepalle wrote:Surya is one of my all time favourtie ragas. Please listen to my composition at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMvBbdoGuDg and post your comments or suggestions.
Sri. Kishorepalle, The composition is very nice and value rich in meaning too. The rendition by Sreenidhi is superb and very melodious. Wish you all good luck in your every such attempts to entertain us with real music. Please explain the meaning of the lyric in the first line of the charanam ''Karathale Venum Kari madha bheeshta bhanjanam " (Karathale venum means holding the flute in the hands ) and what does it mean 'kari madha bheesta bhanjanam'' please explain.

Hariharan.

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Post by kishorepalle »

Sri. Kishorepalle, The composition is very nice and value rich in meaning too. The rendition by Sreenidhi is superb and very melodious. Wish you all good luck in your every such attempts to entertain us with real music. Please explain the meaning of the lyric in the first line of the charanam ''Karathale Venum Kari madha bheeshta bhanjanam " (Karathale venum means holding the flute in the hands ) and what does it mean 'kari madha bheesta bhanjanam'' please explain.


Dear Hariharan sir,

Thanks for taking time and listening to my compositions and your comments as well...

"Kari madha bheeshta bhanjanam"

Here the sahithyam can be interpreted in two ways for the sake of bhava, Kari as you know is an elephant and when Sri Krishna goes to Madhura to kill Kamsa, Kamsa orders his pattapu enugu, (Sorry I don't know what it is in English) to kill Balarama and Krishna. Krishna with bare hands, kills the rogue elephant (Maddha Bhanjanam).

And on the other hand, when Sri Krishna goes to Indralok, he decides to pluck sowgandhika pushpam from deva kolanu for Satya Bhama, Indra orders his Airaavath to block Sri Kirshna's access to the divine pond and when Airaavatham tries to stop Sri Krishna, he tames the raging beast with finger there by destroying its madham (arrogance) along with Indra's.

Hope that helped.

Thanks
Kishore Palle

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Post by kishorepalle »

Hello All,

FYI, I uploaded the mp3 version of the song Isai Arasi from Thaai Moogambika set to ragam Surya. Here is the link http://www.sendspace.com/file/i7vzc5 if you would like to download it.

Thanks
Kishore Palle

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Post by chingan »

sunayanaa wrote:
arasi wrote:T.V.Sankaranarayanan's RTP 'sUryA sudhAkara lOChanA, sundara rAmA' is unforgettable.
This RTP of TVS is available at http://www.carnaticliveconcerts.com/
I came to know that two cassettes of Sri.T.V.Sankaranarayanan's concerts with Surya RTP were released by Gramaphone Company with no. M47028 and M47029. I tried in almost all the stores in Chennai. I could not get it. Can anyone help me in getting me this Surya RTP of TVS sir. If the equivalent CD if available, pl. inform me. The link which has been mentioned is not working.
Narasimhan (email id gavats@gmail.com)

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Post by keerthi »

Kishor, what is bheeshta..?

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Re: Raga Surya

Post by venkatakailasam »

Two more songs in the raga sallapam are:

ISAI ARASI ENNALUM NAANE ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VID9pG_vliI

Iyal isaiyil - KJ Yesudas - Arupadai Thirupugazh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka4RZAn2rhQ

one more song by Dr.Ramanathan...stated to be Na moravina rada...

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Re: Raga Surya

Post by KTBR »

There is a 1 hour RTP in sallApam on sangeethapriya.org

Cannot access this site now.

The concert details (the URL may have changed by now) that I have,

https://www.sangeethamshare.org/manjuna ... yAru-2005/

Embar S Kannan (Violin); U P Raju (Mandolin); S Karthick (Ghatam, konnakkOl, vocal); Poongulam S Subramanian (Mrudangam); Sethuraman (Ganjira); Sundar (Morsing & Tabla);

Heartbeat Ensemble; Chennaiyil Tiruvaiyaru Music festival; DEC 2005

Duration :: 01:52:02 Hours

01 (mallAri) - gambhIra nATTai (36) - khaNDa tripuTai - - 00:07:00
02 pulse - jagajanani - ratipatipriyA (22) - Adi - ganam kRSNayyar - 00:27:13
03 supreme source - AdAra - sindubhairavi (10) - Adi - - 00:11:19
04 ecstacy - RTP - sallApam (14) - Adi - pallavi () - 01:00:23
05 medley - rAgamAlikai - - 00:06:04
(ends with national Anthem of India)

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Surya

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A recent sloka video in praise of Surya in the raga Surya

https://www.facebook.com/sadgati.creati ... 6339127342

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Re: Surya

Post by RasikasModerator2 »

A thread for this raga already exists. This will be merged with that one.

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