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mohan
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Post by mohan »

Huseni is quite a tricky raga to handle since it is easy to slip into other ragas like Kharaharapriya, Bhairavi, Mukhari, etc if one is not careful. It is one of those ragas that can't be described well through the arohanam/avarohanam and is more phrase oriented.

There is a famous swarajathi in Huseni that is used for dance. I have heard both tamil and telugu versions of this. I am not familiar with many krithis but have heard Thyagaraja's Emani veginchine and a few padams such as Netrandhi.

Are any raga renditions available?

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Post by mnsriram »

There is a famous swarajathi in Huseni that is used for dance. I have heard both tamil and telugu versions of this.
Could you please post the swarajati if a non-commercial version is available?

A sketch of husEni is available in Dr. S Ramanathan's lecture demonstration on rAga lakShaNAs

I have heard "raghuvIra raNadhIra" and "pAhimAm brihannAyikE" in this rAgA.

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

Dr S Pinakapani , in one of his private lectures

http://rapidshare.de/files/25541996/pin ... e.mp3.html

Experts , please confirm , for my sake , that it is Huseini indeed..

cmlover
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Post by cmlover »

Here is a non-expert who thinks it is a great Huseni!

drshrikaanth
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Post by drshrikaanth »

It is husEni.

mohan
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Post by mohan »

Thanks Coolkarni for sending the Pinakapani mp3. I agree that it is difficult to tell it is Huseni. I was having doubts whether it was Mukhari or Bhairavi! I think major phrases used include

SSP, PNDM, MPNDNS', S'NDP, MPMGSR,, RGRSR, RGMPMGSR,, GRN.,S,,

MPNDNS', R'G'M'G'R'S', PS'NS', PDPMGRSR,GS.


Can someone confirm who are the composers of these compositions rendered by Dr Pinakapani in the file?

Sriram - I don't have the audio or notation for the swarajathi but have seen it danced.

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Post by kmrasika »

mohan Sir,

Are you referring to EmAyalADirA sAmi.... for some reason I had an idea that the composer of this piece had heard and modeled this composition based on pAhimAm brhannAyikE as some of the ciTTasvara passages emulate that of the latters', e.g. pp,p SS, S nSndndp,...

Popular numbers include rAma ninnE namminA, ShrI rAmacandra parilasa mama hrdi and raghuvIra. Also, the lilting padam, "nERRanDi nErattilE is quite a popular piece in this rAga. Another is a rarely heard piece rendered by Ramnad Krishnan in one of his albums for HMV(enna nIsollAyO, I think).

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Post by vamshikrishna »

Namaskaram Mr Koolkarni, have you got any detailed version of huseni?? i have tried your link of sri Pinakapani sir's link that you have posted in the past. its no longer in use. can you help me please??

coolkarni

Post by coolkarni »

can someone who downloaded , upload it now , Please ?

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Post by vamshikrishna »

Mr coolkarni have you got any audio of huseni ? i am looking for a eloborated alapana and nereval in huseni. regards...

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Post by Suji Ram »

coolkarni wrote:can someone who downloaded , upload it now , Please ?
http://rapidshare.de/files/35602475/pin ... e.mp3.html

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Post by vamshikrishna »

thank you for the link......................

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Post by Music »

That was a great Huseni. The item 'Antaranga' in this lecdem is an Annamacharya kirtana that was tuned by Dr. Pinakapani.

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Post by vamshikrishna »

i can't find the lec-dem in the link. but the Annamacharya's krithi antharanga is amazing, a very good version of Aligithe.

thanks for the wondeful piece of music.

have you got the lec-dem?? i'd be thankful if i can get it...........

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Post by rajeshnat »

There is another lovely huseni by dikshitar. That is shree kAlahasti . I would recommend to hear this krithi when Smt Vedavalli renders the same.

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Post by vamshikrishna »

i heard D.K.jayaraman sir's version.. have you got vedavalli's version?? if you have any non commercial recordings in huseni, could you please forward the links for the same?? thank you.

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Post by Suji Ram »

vamshikrishna wrote:have you got the lec-dem?? i'd be thankful if i can get it...........
http://rapidshare.de/files/35731926/09Huseni.mp3.html

Here is one by S Ramanathan which I uploaded from here or rasikapriya site

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Post by vamshikrishna »

thanks for the link.. the explanation is so good.

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Post by vamshikrishna »

thank you keeravani for the music. could you please post the sahithyam for the krithi if you have it?? and would like to know the accompaniments.

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Post by Lakshman »

kanakamayamAyIDum. rAgA: husEni. rUpaka tALA. Composer: Svati Tirunal.

P: kanakamayamAyiDum kamala vAhanam adin mEl kanattoru kAntyoDu gamikkunnAdaravEnO
C1: valamadanan vibhavamOdE vasudhaiyil cariccIDunnO valamdanan engilenjyu vilasum nEtra sahasram
2: kaLabhagatE kuLirmatiyO kanivODE vilasunnu kuLirmadingAgil uLLin uLavAgum angamenjyu
3: gaurI nAyakanAkum kailAsAdhIshvaranO gaurI nAtakanengil kamani munnA nEtramenjyu
4: atimahasA vilasITum kadirOnO vadabAlE kadirOnennAkilavan kathamEvam cAntanAvu
5: tAriitEn mozhi bAlE dhanapati ennAkilavan bhUri virUpAnganatO nIrajanAbhan nUnam

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Post by rshankar »

Thanks Lji...
The mudra here is niranjanAbhan (variation on the padmanAbha mudra)
Ravi

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Post by vamshikrishna »

thank you mr.lakshman. could you please let me know what language is it?? malayalam??

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Post by Radhakrishnan »

vamshikrishna wrote:what language is it?? malayalam??
It is the 3rd day utsava prabandha compostion in mani pravAlam.
2nd day composition pankajAkshanAm ramEsan(tOdi) is also very popular,which KVN used to sing.

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Post by arasi »

maNipravALam makes it difficult to discern the words but this speciality of SwAti tirunAL--an admixture of languages has a charm of its own.
Would the word in the pallavi line be kaNaththoru kAnthi? =every moment, a different glow?

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Post by Radhakrishnan »

arasi wrote:maNipravALam makes it difficult to discern the words but this speciality of SwAti tirunAL--an admixture of languages has a charm of its own.
Would the word in the pallavi line be kaNaththoru kAnthi? =every moment, a different glow?
it is poetical malayAlam with lot of sanskrit words.

kanathOru kAnthiyOdu means with heavy glow

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Post by vamshikrishna »

thank you mr radhakrishnan for the explanation. we find quite a few words of Brij bhasha too in manipravalam. am i right?

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Post by ramanathan »

Lakshman wrote:kanakamayamAyIDum. rAgA: husEni. rUpaka tALA. Composer: Svati Tirunal.

P: kanakamayamAyiDum kamala vAhanam adin mEl kanattoru kAntyoDu gamikkunnAdaravEnO
C1: valamadanan vibhavamOdE vasudhaiyil cariccIDunnO valamdanan engilenjyu vilasum nEtra sahasram
2: kaLabhagatE kuLirmatiyO kanivODE vilasunnu kuLirmadingAgil uLLin uLavAgum angamenjyu
3: gaurI nAyakanAkum kailAsAdhIshvaranO gaurI nAtakanengil kamani munnA nEtramenjyu
4: atimahasA vilasITum kadirOnO vadabAlE kadirOnennAkilavan kathamEvam cAntanAvu
5: tAriitEn mozhi bAlE dhanapati ennAkilavan bhUri virUpAnganatO nIrajanAbhan nUnam
Even though Swati Tirunal has composed several pieces in maNipravALam, this one and many of the other utsava prabandhams are in pure Malayalam. Let me make a few transliteration corrections in the lyrics provided by Lakshmanji:

P: kanaka mayam AyIDum kamala vAhanam atin mEl
kanattOru kAntiyODu gamikkunnatAravanO?

(Oh! Who could this be? Marching in such grandeur in the resplendent golden lotus vehicle?)

C1: valamathanan vibhavamODe vasudhayil cariccIDunnO?
valamathanan engil engU vilasum nEtra sahasram?

(Is it Indra, who killed the demon Vala with all his retinue? If it is Indra, then where are his thousand sparkling eyes?)

C2: kaLabha gatE kuLirmatiyo? kanivODe vilasunnU!
kuLirmatiyennAkil uLLil uLavAkum ankamengU?

(Oh, my friend with the elephant gait (kaLabham = elephant, gati = gait)! Is it the refreshing Moon, roaming with compassion? If it is indeed the Moon, where is his trademark stain?)

C3: gaurI nayakan Akum kailAsAdhIshvaranO?
gaurI nayakan engil kamani mUnnAm nEtram engU?

(Is it Lord Shiva, the beloved of Gauri? If it is Shiva, then where is the third eye?)

C4: ati mahasA vilasIDum katirOno vada bAlE?
katirOn ennAkilavan kathamEvam shAntanAvU?

(Tell me my dear, is it the Sun god with his dazzling brilliance? If so, how come he is so tranquil?)

C5: tArittEnmozhi bAlE! dhanapati ennAkilavan
bhUri virUpAnganatO nIrajanAbhan nUnam!

(Oh my friend with the honeyed voice, if it were Kubera the Lord of Wealth, he would be terribly deformed. He is none of these, so doubtless he is my Lord Nirajanabha (Vishnu))

This utsava prabandham was composed for the third day of the nine-day festival of Lord Padmanabha, when His procession is taken out atop the Kamala Vahana (the golden lotus vehicle). Masters such as Semmangudi, Pudukkode Krishnamurthy and KVN used to bring out the moving beauty of this song in their renditions at the Navaratri Mandapam.
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Post by drshrikaanth »

C4 is certainly maNipravALa. "vada" and "kathamEvam" are sanskrit, nor malayALa formations. Also "nUnam" in C5.

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Post by Lakshman »

Ramanathan:
The text that I posted are from the book Maharaja Svati Tirunal Kritis vol 1 by Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer.
The texts are given in samskrt, in tamil with proper subscripts and in malayalam.
The text you have posted - Is it from a different book?

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Post by ramanathan »

Lakshman wrote:Ramanathan:
The text that I posted are from the book Maharaja Svati Tirunal Kritis vol 1 by Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer.
The texts are given in samskrt, in tamil with proper subscripts and in malayalam.
Fine! I corrected only the English transliteration, employing accurate Malayalam pronunciation and padaccHEdam (word splitting), which should be evident to anyone proficient in Malayalam. (e.g. there is a world of difference between 'vala mathanan' and 'vala madanan'!)
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Post by Lakshman »

I was not disputing what you have posted but just wondered how Semmangudi could have written this many words differently. Is this the case with other ST songs as well?

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Post by ramanathan »

Semmangudi didn't write many words differently. His work accurately captures the lyrics in Samskrt, Malayalam and Tamil. The mistakes are in the English transliteration, which I'm sure SSI didn't do.
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Post by braindrain »

During this years Ramanavami concerts in Bangalore, TNS sang Huseni in detail. It was one of the outstanding Huseni I have ever heard. This concert was in the month of May at Seshadripuram , Bangalore.

The krithi was "Rama Ninne Nammi" and was in detail , lasted 24 min approx.

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Post by gsabari »

Hi,
Can anybody re-upload Dr S Pinakapani's Lecture Demo pleaseeee?

GanesanSabarivasan

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Post by Suji Ram »

gsabari wrote:Hi,
Can anybody re-upload Dr S Pinakapani's Lecture Demo pleaseeee?

GanesanSabarivasan
http://www.rogepost.com/n/1217898243

thanjavur

Post by thanjavur »

The following krithis

1. Aligithi (Kshetragna) by MBK
2. Raghuveera Rana (Thyagarajar) by MBK
3. Sri Kalahastisa (Dikshitar) by DKJ
4. Pahimam Bruhannayike (Swati Tirunal) by KVN

can be found at

Nada Anuboothi

http://home.sprynet.com/~dsivakumar/music/intromus.htm

Music Categories -> Carnatic Vocal -> Ragas H -> Huseni

gsabari
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Post by gsabari »

Dear friends,

thanks alot.

GanesanSabarivasan

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Post by rajaglan »

Mohan,

A commercial rendition is by Sanjay december season 2001 at kalashetra by CDW.
Eppadi manam tunindado by arunachala kavi. Not a long alapana.

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Post by jayaram »

A great rendition of Rama ninne nammi by the one and only Pudukkode:
http://file.uploadr.com/ced3

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Post by chalanata »

theliyadane by harikesanallur?
eppadi manam thuninthatho swami (Rama nataka kirthanai) by arunachala kavi.

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Post by ramanathan »

Looking for SSI's rendition of Shri Kalahastisha... could some kind soul pls upload or point me in the right direction? Coolji...?? :)

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Post by mohan »

DKJ's version of Sri Kalahastisha is at http://www.sangeethamshare.org/sunil/gu ... a--DKJ.mp3

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Post by ramanathan »

Mohan,
I already have that. Was looking specifically for SSI...

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Post by raviraj »

Ramanathan,

SSI's rendition is a commercial recording available in stores. Details are here. http://www.medieval.org/music/world/cds/ori166.html
Shoot me an email should you still have questions.

All,

Sri Kalahasteesa is in Misra Jhampa while everybody including DKJ and SSI have sung it in Khanda capu . I am looking for a vocal rendition ( by anyone with a good voice..:-) ) in Misra Jhampa. A copy would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Ravi

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Post by ramanathan »

Thanks, ravi. I'll try to find the CD.

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Post by balusatya »

SKA.SRI.SRJ .Book on Raga Lakshanas -Vol-2.He mentions the chittaiswaram of kriti "Sri Raghukulanidhim"Of Ramnad Srinivasa Iyengar composition as very unique in this Raga.Any recording available for this song with Chittaiswaram?

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Post by davalangi »

Ravi - SRJ has sung the krithi in Mishra Jhampa giving it a different dimension. Whether he has a good voice (in that particular recording I have), I would have to leave it up to you to decide :) Shall I send it to your email address and do you want me to upload it here?

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Post by venkatpv »

upload it here, ofcourse!!

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Post by davalangi »

Here is SRJ's shrI kALahastIsha in Jhampa - I am not sure who the accompanists are. I hope I didn't distort the track by using improper noise reduction techniques when I digitized it a few years back!!

http://rapidshare.de/files/39301128/huseini.MP3.html

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