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bilahari
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Post by bilahari » 02 Jul 2009, 11:42

kApi nArAyaNi is a lovely ragam, but I only seem to have heard a singular composition in this ragam--sarasa sAmadAna. Are there other compositions in kApi nArAyaNi? Although I think MMI's renditions of this composition are the gold standard--especially his imaginative neravals at hitavu mATa--here's a nice rendition by GNB in the company of TNK and PR: http://www.sendspace.com/file/fene6q
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Post by keerthi » 02 Jul 2009, 11:56

Sanjay sings tillai chidambaramE of mutthutANDavar, there is a patnam .S iyer piece that NOBODY sings.. And HMB is sure to have composed in the raga..

I remember someone mentioning a kApi-nArAyaNi-kApinarAyaNi RTP by sri NSG at bangalore last year..
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Post by Jigyaasa » 02 Jul 2009, 16:18

I heard Sri T.N.Seshagopalan sang such an RTP in a concert a long time ago...
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Post by srikant1987 » 02 Jul 2009, 19:39

I've never heard GNB in company of TNK afai remember, that makes it an added attraction. :)
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Post by srinivasrgvn » 02 Jul 2009, 20:48

Well, bilahari.
I remember Lakshman sir giving a complete list of songs in kApi nArAyani in some thread. I couldn't find it. There are definitely more songs.
And I've never heard the rAga 'nArAyani'. Can you please tell me where to find a recording/composition? =)
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Post by Lakshman » 02 Jul 2009, 20:50

Hers is a list of songs in this raga:

Are re jaya jaya parashurama (lng)-Triputa-Govindacharya
Chintalanniyu- -Sriramachandra Murti Sistla
Daya sara maha sara dainyam hara-Adi-C.S.Shivaramakrishna Bhagavatar
Dhim tana dhim tanana dhim (t)-Adi-Vinai Shesha Iyer
Emira rama-Adi-Bhadrachalam Ramdas
Jagadisha brova-Adi-Tiruvettiyur Tyagayya
Kalakalabala-M/Eka-Chitravina N.Ravikiran
Kapi narayana- -Bangalore S.Mukund
Maruni nagari danda ma yillerugava-Triputa-Annamacharya
Parabrahmmamu raghukula tilaka ni pada-Adi-Patnam Subramania Iyer
Sarasa sama dana bheda danda chatura sati deva-Adi-Tyagaraja
Satya pramanamuga bhuta gramendriyadulu- -Sriramachandra Murti Sistla
Satyam jnanam- -Sriramachandra Murti Sistla
Shri hari tarakanama- -Sriramachandra Murti Sistla
Tillai chidambarame-Adi-Marimutta Pillai
Tillana (dhim tana dhim tanana dhim)-Adi-Vinai Shesha Iyer
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Post by srinivasrgvn » 02 Jul 2009, 20:54

See, I told you! Thanks a lot, Lakshman sir. Thanks again for your spontaneous service.
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Post by vasanthakokilam » 02 Jul 2009, 21:35

I searched sangeethapriya and the only non sarasasamadhana song there is "Thillai Chidambarame" by Sanjay: http://sangeethamshare.org/manjunath/Ca ... barame.mp3
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Post by Lakshman » 02 Jul 2009, 21:55

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Post by vasanthakokilam » 02 Jul 2009, 22:02

Lakshman, I saw those but figured Narayani is a different raga.
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Post by Lakshman » 02 Jul 2009, 22:36

Here is a link for mahiSAsuramardhani of Dikshitar in narayani.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/vccusi
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Post by Lakshman » 02 Jul 2009, 22:44

vasantakokilam wrote:

Lakshman, I saw those but figured Narayani is a different raga.

It is a different raga. I posted the links since srinivasrgvn had never heard of the raga and wanted to know if audio clips were available.
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Post by vasanthakokilam » 02 Jul 2009, 22:46

Lakshman, Got it, I missed that post of srinivasrgvn. Thanks.
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Post by Suji Ram » 02 Jul 2009, 22:48

lakshman, thanks for those nArAyani links. I was taught that song-rAma nIvE, which I have forgotten totally how to play it. It is a good piece for instrumentalist
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Post by bilahari » 03 Jul 2009, 01:49

Lakshmanji, thank you very much, as always! VK, thank you as well for that link. I'm downloading it now.
Srikant, this concert of GNB TNK PR is rather extraordinary, with an elaborate tODi pallavi running in excess of an hour with GNB and TNK exhausting the raga in a multi-stage alapanai. The concert also features an excellent mA jAnaki.
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Post by srinivasrgvn » 03 Jul 2009, 06:45

Lakshman sir. Thanks a lot, for your prompt service. =)
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Post by narayan » 03 Jul 2009, 09:28

1) Tillai chidambarame sung by Sanjay, is tuned in Kapi Narayani by Trichy J.Venkatraman, an Alathur disciple, as per Sanjay's note. Marimutta Pillai appears to be pre-trinity, which gels with my impression of Kapi narayani being a Tyagaraja creation.

2) This Mahisasura mardhini in Narayani sounds nothing like Ramanive and Bhajanaseya of Tyagaraja. More like Goulai than anything remotely like Narayani. Haven't explored possible deep srutibhedam possibilities here, though!
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Post by keerthi » 03 Jul 2009, 16:01

narayan wrote: 1.....gels with my impression of Kapi narayani being a Tyagaraja creation.
It is very very likely that tyAgarAja was the first to use it..

narayan wrote:
2) This Mahisasura mardhini in Narayani sounds nothing like Ramanive and Bhajanaseya of Tyagaraja. More like Goulai than anything remotely like Narayani. Haven't explored possible deep srutibhedam possibilities here, though!
there is a krti attributed to mutthuswami dikshitar, which goes mahiSAsuramardini mAm pAhi madhyadEsavasini.. this is in gaula, and even has the rAgamudra?..

the other krti, found in the SSP, is mahiSAsuramardinIm namami mahanIya kapardinIm, which is in narayaNi, and also doesn't sound like the narAyaNI of tyagaraja's songs.. has phrases reminescent of Bilahari..
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Post by eppramod » 03 Jul 2009, 17:06

srinivasrgvn wrote: And I've never heard the rAga 'nArAyani'. Can you please tell me where to find a recording/composition? =)
You should be able to see quite a few recordings in sangeethapriya...
Listen to this TKR piece...(not so great recording)...
http://sangeethamshare.org/hariharan/TK ... rayani.mp3
in this rendition after MC's violin reply (he gives extra time for him :-) ) TKR appreciates young MC !!!
(I think he says such talented young people should come...)
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Post by Pratyaksham Bala » 02 Nov 2018, 00:11

Lakshman wrote:
02 Jul 2009, 20:50
Hers is a list of songs in this raga:

Are re jaya jaya parashurama (lng)-Triputa-Govindacharya
Lakshman ji,
Please post the lyrics of this song.
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Post by Pratyaksham Bala » 02 Nov 2018, 00:12

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#22 Re: kApi nArAyaNi

Post by Lakshman » 02 Nov 2018, 19:45

ArErE jayajaya parashurAma (lng). rAgA: kApinArAyaNi. tripuTa tALA. Govindacharya.

ArErE jayajaya parashurAma mada vibhanjanurErE catuhshruti riSabha antara gAndhAra catuhshruti
dhaivata svara kaishiki niSADa itara shuddha ArOha ga varjita avarOha sampUrNa sagrahanyAsAmsha
tripuTa yukta harikAmbhOji mEla janita kApinArAyaNi rAgamavadhAraya shrI rAma namO namO
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#23 Re: kApi nArAyaNi

Post by Pratyaksham Bala » 02 Nov 2018, 20:22

Thanks !
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#24 Re: kApi nArAyaNi

Post by ajaysimha » 12 Nov 2018, 14:59

what does the word sagrahanyAsAmsha mean in above lyrics
(usually this word is found in almost all lakshana geethas of govindacharya)
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#25 Re: kApi nArAyaNi

Post by rshankar » 19 Nov 2018, 20:29

ajaysimha wrote:
12 Nov 2018, 14:59
what does the word sagrahanyAsAmsha mean in above lyrics
(usually this word is found in almost all lakshana geethas of govindacharya)
Here is my attempt:

catuhshruti riSabha antara gAndhAra catuhshruti dhaivata svara kaishiki niSADa itara shuddha ArOha
ga varjita avarOha sampUrNa sagrahanyAsAmsha

through this lakshaNa gIta, Sri Govindacharya provides the various svarasthAna for this rAga in the ArOhaNa and avarOhaNa (as a deriative of the harikAmbhOji mELa)...and in this context, I think, sagrahanyAsAmSa (सग्रहन्यासाम्श) should be split as = sa (स) + (graha) ग्रह + (nyAsa) न्यास + (aMSa) अम्श. sa = with; graha has many meanings but in musical terms, it is the first (svara); nyAsa, musically is the last (svara); aMSa (in this context) I think means the jIva (svara).

I think the meaning will be the same for the other lakshaNa gItas as well.
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