Structure of Varnams
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wow! tiSra gati - that would be interesting. I vaguely remember coming across some doing tiSra gati mEl kAlam - is that true?
Me - struggling just to get the 2 speeds in catusra gati right. The quitter in me thinks often "the varnams sound so nice in slow speed - why cant we just stick to that" ;)
Arun
Me - struggling just to get the 2 speeds in catusra gati right. The quitter in me thinks often "the varnams sound so nice in slow speed - why cant we just stick to that" ;)
Arun
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Arun,
Usually one sings slower tempo trisra gati after the first speed chaturasra gati and then takes up second speed chaturasra gati after trisra gati... sort of like how artists do trisram while singing RTPs. With practice, this is fairly easy. If one were to sing trisra gati faster speed, that would require pretty good command over one's voice. I do practice it but from performance point of view, I think it would be an overkill in the beginning of the concert.
Usually one sings slower tempo trisra gati after the first speed chaturasra gati and then takes up second speed chaturasra gati after trisra gati... sort of like how artists do trisram while singing RTPs. With practice, this is fairly easy. If one were to sing trisra gati faster speed, that would require pretty good command over one's voice. I do practice it but from performance point of view, I think it would be an overkill in the beginning of the concert.
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Link to L Subramanian playing ninnukOri in "n" speeds. Lost count after 8...
http://www.udbhava.com/udbhava/songs.jsp?id=527
A good nattakurinji
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/J4b ... As1NMvHdW/
http://www.udbhava.com/udbhava/songs.jsp?id=527
A good nattakurinji
http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/J4b ... As1NMvHdW/
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nick,
I could not make out the musical structure after the 10th speed. There seems to be such a rush to get to the next swara. It is a magical gimmickry on the senses, and a mathematical miracle, no less, but the beauty of the music is lost because of the seeming hurry.
Of course, this is just me. And I am nowhere close to a musical genius!!!!
Cheers
Ninja
I could not make out the musical structure after the 10th speed. There seems to be such a rush to get to the next swara. It is a magical gimmickry on the senses, and a mathematical miracle, no less, but the beauty of the music is lost because of the seeming hurry.
Of course, this is just me. And I am nowhere close to a musical genius!!!!
Cheers
Ninja
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There is a LP of L Subramaniam where he plays Nattakurinji varnam in different speeds (Tisra , Khanda , Misra , Sankeerna apart from Chatusra )and does each of these in 2 kalams . At the end its all boils down to mathemeatics ... The muiscal aspect is lost at high speeds ... Carnatic music is best when it is sung at madhyamakalam ... Super fast tempo robs it of the unique microtones
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Re: Structure of Varnams
I just wanted to know the possible ways in which pada Varnams could be sung:
Type 1:
Pallavi
Anupallavi
Chittaiswaram
charamam
Ettugadai passages as swaram only
Type2:
Pallavi
Anupallavi
Chittaiswaram
Charanam
Ettugadai passages only as Sahityas
***Regular one***
Pallavi
Anupallavi
Chittaiswaram
Charanam as sahithya
Ettugadai (swara) followed by Charanam as sahithya
Ettugadai (sahithya) followed by Charanam as sahithya
***Also I have heard In the below style***
Pallavi
Anupallavi
Chittaiswaram
Charanam as swarams
Charanam as sahithya
Ettugadai (swara) followed by Charanam as swarams
Ettugadai (sahithya) followed by Charanam as sahithya
I have heard the people call this type as swarajathi varnam (im not sure)
Could anybody clarify ???
Type 1:
Pallavi
Anupallavi
Chittaiswaram
charamam
Ettugadai passages as swaram only
Type2:
Pallavi
Anupallavi
Chittaiswaram
Charanam
Ettugadai passages only as Sahityas
***Regular one***
Pallavi
Anupallavi
Chittaiswaram
Charanam as sahithya
Ettugadai (swara) followed by Charanam as sahithya
Ettugadai (sahithya) followed by Charanam as sahithya
***Also I have heard In the below style***
Pallavi
Anupallavi
Chittaiswaram
Charanam as swarams
Charanam as sahithya
Ettugadai (swara) followed by Charanam as swarams
Ettugadai (sahithya) followed by Charanam as sahithya
I have heard the people call this type as swarajathi varnam (im not sure)
Could anybody clarify ???