Structuring a Korvai in the thani

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pranavam
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#126

Post by pranavam » 14 Apr 2007, 04:42

mridhangam wrote:I am uploading all the four korvais mentioned above :

All MP3 files

1 ) http://rapidshare.com/files/23217012/Ko ... _No.12.mp3

2) http://rapidshare.com/files/23217043/Ko ... _no_26.mp3

3) http://rapidshare.com/files/23217075/ko ... o_33-1.mp3

4) http://rapidshare.com/files/23217257/ko ... o_33-2.mp3

With the same korvai demonstrated above there are other possibilities. About which i shall come tomorrow.


Mannarkoil J Balaji
Shri Balaji,

Can u please upload the above files in different media like gigasize/mediafire/mediamax/sendspace? Its very very difficult to download from rapidshare.

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Pranavam
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#127

Post by vasanthakokilam » 14 Apr 2007, 05:36

To save Balaji some trouble, I have uploaded the audio files here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/9mpjyr
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#128

Post by pranavam » 15 Apr 2007, 00:41

vasanthakokilam wrote:To save Balaji some trouble, I have uploaded the audio files here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/9mpjyr
Thank u very much

Pranavam
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#129

Post by drshrikaanth » 16 Apr 2007, 15:12

Balaji
Please post the demo of your poruttam kOrve. And if possible, play the kOrve I posted as well.
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#130

Post by mridhangam » 16 Apr 2007, 17:19

yes yes i shall do so .. i was not well for the last few days and couldnt do the recording ... shall up load shortly. by tonight or after 19th as i will be away to calicut to play for T.N.Krishnan Sir's violin solo. I have in mind but really didnt have the time. Sorry for the delay
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#131

Post by drshrikaanth » 16 Apr 2007, 17:25

Hope you are feeling better Balaji. All the best for your Calicut trip. Take your time about the demo.
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#132

Post by mridhangam » 20 Apr 2007, 23:20

Dear Friends and rasikas

Thanks for a considerably long wait.
I am now uploading the korvai as per post no.113 with konnakkol also.

please give your feedback

http://www.rogepost.com/n/6944398073

Thanks
J.Balaji
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#133

Post by mridhangam » 20 Apr 2007, 23:29

Other Korvais with Konnakkol will follow one by one.

Now is the Korvai that i mentioned in Post No:12 with Konnakkol

Hope now it will be clear to rasikas. ?

http://www.rogepost.com/n/1076249489

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Post by mridhangam » 20 Apr 2007, 23:34

Korvai as per Post No.38 with Konnakkol follows now :

http://www.rogepost.com/n/2817035235

Rest I shall do after getting feedback from all of you
Thanks for now

J.Balaji
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#135

Post by vasanthakokilam » 21 Apr 2007, 07:51

Balaji:

Thanks a whole lot. Your playing the mridangam with Konnakkol in parallel is great and it clarified a few things for me. Also, it is easier this way to follow the notations. Thanks.
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#136

Post by sathsangeethapriyan » 23 Apr 2007, 00:42

Are there korvais without the distinction of poorvanga madyanga and uthranga? Any examples?
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Post by mridhangam » 23 Apr 2007, 19:38

Are there korvais without the distinction of poorvanga madyanga and uthranga? Any examples?
I dont think there are any. If i come across such korvais i shall let you know. But by simple logic any korvai within the rules that have been listed elsewhere in this article can be broken into these parts. If the korvai doesnt contain these then they are just Sarvalaghu Patterns or Meettu Patterns without any definite end as such. The rhythmic pattern without these three are just used as a take-off patterns for ultimate korvais.

Hope i have answered your query.

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Post by mridhangam » 24 Apr 2007, 22:30

Now the Korvai as per post no: 26 with Konnakkol


http://rapidshare.com/files/27703132/Ko ... nakkol.mp3

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#139

Post by pranavam » 25 Apr 2007, 05:02

mridhangam wrote:Dear Friends and rasikas

Thanks for a considerably long wait.
I am now uploading the korvai as per post no.113 with konnakkol also.

please give your feedback

http://www.rogepost.com/n/6944398073

Thanks
J.Balaji
Shri,Balaji,

I am unable to download this.Please re-upload this one.

Have a good summer

thanks
Pranavam
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#140

Post by pranavam » 25 Apr 2007, 05:04

mridhangam wrote:Now the Korvai as per post no: 26 with Konnakkol


http://rapidshare.com/files/27703132/Ko ... nakkol.mp3

J.Balaji
Shri,Balaji,

Its very difficult to download from rapidshare.Please re-upload this in diff media.

Have a good summer

thanks
Pranavam
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Post by mridhangam » 25 Apr 2007, 10:04

Sure i shall use different file uploaders from here onwards. At one shot i will do all the audio files listed above as a zip file and upload in a shortwhile until the konnakkol files ok
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#142

Post by mridhangam » 25 Apr 2007, 16:51

I have uploaded a zip file containing all the korvais listed above at single shot.
btw y there is a lull here in this forum ...
Your participation would ensure my giving the best members. moreover instead of me assuming questions and trying to give you hypothetical answers it would be better if it originates from you.

http://www.rogepost.com/n/0816183482

Thanks for the encouragement
J.balaji
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#143

Post by mohan » 25 Apr 2007, 18:28

Thanks Balaji for the zip file. Is there a similar file for the korvais with konakkol?
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#144

Post by sbala » 06 May 2007, 19:43

mridhangam wrote:The actual logic lies in the fact that if you play 3 times 5 then the previous number 4 once 5 once and 6 once also makes the total to 15 (3 * 5). Not only this 3 + 5 + 7 and 2 + 5 + 8 and 1 + 5 + 9 also makes the total to 15. Within the 3 * 5 itself you can play any of thes combinations. we can slightly modify the above korvai in such a way that keeping the poorvanga constant we can keep on chaning the madyanga and utharanga in umpteen number of ways. (May be according to talaprastara we can arrive at the exact number of varieties for which our sbala can be of immense help).
For this particular example, the number of ways of arriving at a sum of 15 using 3 integers (using all the numbers from 1 upto 13) should be 91 assuming the order matters (ie 1 1 13 is different from 13 1 1). However, most of these 91 may be only of theoritical interest to percussionists as only very few might pass the aesthetics test.
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#145

Post by Nick H » 09 May 2007, 09:43

And how many will pass the ThaDhiGhiNaThom test?

I have been entirely off-line for a week due to house-moving. Already I had a lot to catch up with in the thread --- but my interest is still here :)
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#146

Post by sbala » 09 May 2007, 10:41

Sorry for asking a basic qn - What is the ThaDhiGhiNaThom test?
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#147

Post by Nick H » 09 May 2007, 16:02

...well, I guess I just made up that piece of terminology!

But the 5-count phrase, Tha Dhi Ghi Na Thom is obligatory.

Of course, it can be padded to six, seven, eight or nine for its tisra, misra, chatusra and sankeerna incarnations
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#148

Post by sbala » 09 May 2007, 19:20

mridhangam wrote:Thadikitathom
thadikitathom
thadikitathom , , , (3 * 5)

changed to

thakadimi
thadikitathom
thadee, kitathom , , , (4+5+6)
Nick,
This is the change that Balaji sir has done where 15 counts is expressed as 3*5 in the first variation and 4+5+6 in the 2nd variation. This sum of 15 can be done in 91 ways if there are no further constraints. Can you explain the tadiginathom restriction wrt this variation? The original Korvai written by Balaji sir is post #33
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#149

Post by Nick H » 09 May 2007, 20:43

No, I can't ---- so I'm probably wrong!

Or talking at cross purposes...
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#150

Post by thenpaanan » 11 May 2007, 21:55

mridhangam wrote:Korvai as per Post No.38 with Konnakkol follows now :

http://www.rogepost.com/n/2817035235

Rest I shall do after getting feedback from all of you
Thanks for now

J.Balaji
Hi Balaji

Could you re-upload your mridangam+konnakol? Your post seems to have expired and I did not see it in time. :-(

-Thenpaanan
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