IDEA Star Singer - Asia Net

Music that is not orthodox Carnatic or Hindustani.
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rajumds
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Post by rajumds »

This is a wonderful program being broadcast on weekdays from 8.30pm to 9,30 pm. The show is in the final stage and I have been watching for the last 3 months. The quality of participants is very high and the way the judges (M G Sreekumar, Sarath , Usha Uthup) analyse the performances is a treat to watch. Don't miss

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Post by jananee »

Yes..i also watch it regularly and enjoy..i especially like to watch the judges' review.....and the participants d have a hig standard!

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Post by sivaramakrishnang »

Yes!
It is really a talent hunt, presented in a beautiful way.
Participants are also qualified singers.
I enjoy watching this programme everyday.

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Post by thanjavooran »

Yes an excellent programme. I enjoy the comments by the two judges viz. srikumar and sarath . They make the contestants to sing once again a particular portion which they are not quite convinced [ of course with thampura sruthi on ]

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Post by Sam Swaminathan »

Any chance this programme is available in any of the interenet sites? Alternatively, which TV is showing this programme?

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Post by krishnayoga »

Yes you can get all the Idea Star singer posted daily... at http://www.youtube.com
search for Idea Star Singer 2007 and a Youtube member called amidelaneboo is posting this.

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Post by thanjavooran »

Asia net is showing this progm.

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Post by thanjavooran »

Y'day's progrm was very nice and interesting. The contestants were asked to perform with mirudhangam and violin to show their talents/ capability in raga dilineation , pallavi, N and S. It was a novel experience for the participants as well as the audience . This will continue whole of this week. The timings are between 20 30 hrs to 21 30 hrs. Srikumar showed he is well versed in CM too. He sang kuraippu swaram to substantiate his comments about the performance. Don't miss.

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Post by rajumds »

Both Sreekumar & Sarath are well versed in CM. Infact Sarath is a student of BMK. They along with the contestants sang a lovely Vathapi at the beginning of yesterday's show.

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Post by vasanthakokilam »

I usually find the judge's comments cringe-worthy in such competitions ( American Idol who started this type of thing is the worst of the lot except for Simon ). I am glad in this case, it is not the case. Good for them.

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Post by srkris »

krishnayoga wrote:Yes you can get all the Idea Star singer posted daily... at http://www.youtube.com
search for Idea Star Singer 2007 and a Youtube member called amidelaneboo is posting this.
Wow thanks for that info.

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Post by thanjavooran »

Gangai amaran as one of the judges did his part well. While appreciating the contestant's efforts he narrated few anecdotes connected with other music directors and play back singers. It was quite interesting. He mentioned that in tamil channels too such detailed talent hunting should be done with the help of learned judges .

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Amrutha's HM style thillana yesterday was wonderful. Watch it on U tube if available

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I have been watching a lot of videos of this program on youtube and I find the program to be very entertaining and quite excellent. The level of talent expected, as well as shown is quite high.

The knowledge of the judges (all from film/popular industry) is superb. Yes they appear to nitpick at times but it also shows their keen sense, and besides they themselves admit many times that it is their job :). This reminds me. I would like to propose that this would be educational for folks who may tend to dismiss film industry and that genre as a whole. Sure the content can be lewd, risque at times but in terms of the music field, I see boatloads of evidence that these folks have not only firmly rooted classical roots, they (still) give it utmost due respect. They stress its importance at every turn. The "dissection" of classical songs, classical based songs is usually more thorough and stringent.

I am reminded of one video: In a *semi*-classical round, a contestant picks "swaminAta paripAlaya" (which was rendered in a film). At the end the judge (sharath, the music director) asks him with surprise and wonderment "for a semi-classical round, you have picked a classical number - do you know?" and then with a bit of bewilderment and shock in his voice he asks "Do you you know whose composition this is? This is muttuswAmi dIkshitar's composition!!!" as if to ask him "arent you being unwittingly bold to pick this for your *semi*classical number". Then he goes on to dissect how the bhava of nATTai should be, where the contestant was off etc. etc. Pretty good.

To stop the ramble: In short, this is a fantastic program. I wish I can get it here in the US.

PS: What is also great is a free inter-mix (i.e. showcase) of various languages in the content (malayalam, lot of tamil and hindi in film songs, and of course there is a classical rounds which featured tamil, kannada and sanskrit etc.). Now this may be a localized/limited perspective but based on this and also some interaction with the malayalee community in the US, I have found them to be the most accepting and open w.r.t. other Indian languages and culture. I salute them for this. They should be an inspiration for all of us.

Arun
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Post by gobilalitha »

whilst on the subject of knowldedge of classical music of music directors, I like toadd that many music directors are blessed with capability to perform a kutcheri for 3 hours. but they might have chosen a different line on the face of stiff competition. let me stop with one song mannavan vandhanadi in kalyani ,music by KVMahadevan .has not the raaga been dissected threadbare? there are scores of other music directors.. in malayalam films I remember devaraj and srikumar gobilalitha

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Post by mohan »

Yes - the music for Indian films is still very raga based. Any decent music director (or vocalist) must have a good knowledge of classical music if they are to succeed!

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Post by arunk »

Agreed. I always thought so (being a huge fan of KVM, MSV(&R) and Ilayaraja - ok I guess Tamil Film songs in general).

I think though that there is some tendency to say that contemporary music directors may be "less classical" than old-timers. This is true in terms of output (as they adapted to changing times, and some forged new ground), but I think not in terms of the classical roots, or knowledge of classical music that the musical directors (or singers) may have. Also,they do still rely on these heavily (as appropriate) even for these contemporary tunes.

Arun

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Post by Rachana »

Dear friends,
I have heard Visakha Hari's Harikadha on Tyagaraja's life story. She sings each keerthanam and explains when the great composer sang that song also.(It is in youtube...'margazhi mahautsavam')
I would like to know when Tyagaraja composed and sang this"Mariyada gaadura....'I request for the context.If anybody knows, please share...Thanks.

In ISS 2007, Thushar sang it.Here is the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezl_xUeS344
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kb1BlhihYmA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjyD3Klz_JM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y590u0MlYXQ

Regards
Rachana

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Post by Suji Ram »

Wow! real talent...
very good

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Post by rajumds »

Tushar qualified for the grand finale thanks to the above performance. He got 96 marks from the judges pushing him to the second slot ( he was averaging 70 in the previous rounds) and got around 47000 sms points ( way above others) making him the top ranked. It is heartening that a classical performance can create such an impact .

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Post by braindrain »

There is a similar program running in Amrutha TV called "rAgaratnam' for pure carnatic talents between 10-14 yrs. This is telecasted between 8pm and 9:00 pm on Saturday and Sunday. This is also into the finals ( I guess) and only 5 contestants are left. Ragam Tanam Pallavi Round is on as of yesterday. I'm not a regular viewer of this, so cant comment on it. Rajkumar Bharati Veteran Music Director Dakshinamurty are among the judges.

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Post by thanjavooran »

Braindrain ! Many thanks for sharing this piece of information.

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Post by Rachana »

Dear friends,
Do watch the grand finale tomorrow- April 19th sat- at 6.35 pm...ASIANET...
If by chance you miss it, watch it in www.youtube.com/amidalaneboo later...
:)
Bye
Rachana

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Post by Rachana »

Hi all,
Najim Arshad is IDEA STAR SINGER 2007
He won a flat worth RS.40 Lakhs
Durga came second and won the Ford fiesta.
Thushar third position and won Alto car
Arun sang beautifully and won one Lakh rupees cash....
So subha mangalam to ISS 2007!
Regards
Rachana

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Post by thanjavooran »

Second round of idea star singer is on now. [ idea star singer 2008. ] Vani jayaram and L R Easwari are the new judges.

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Post by ramya »

Hey,

Can someone give me the lyrics of the song 'Nadam' and 'Raavil veena nadam' from the movie sindoora rekha directed by Sharath.They were sung in ISS 2007 and they were absolute melodies.Thanks so much.I think mallu guys could help with the lyrics.

bye

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Post by shadjam »

ramya wrote:Hey,

Can someone give me the lyrics of the song 'Nadam' and 'Raavil veena nadam' from the movie sindoora rekha directed by Sharath.They were sung in ISS 2007 and they were absolute melodies.Thanks so much.I think mallu guys could help with the lyrics.

bye
Lyrics are here: http://www.musicindiaonline.com/lr/20/2882/

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Post by ramya »

Thank you but i wanted the lyrics for the other song 'nadam'.it was sung by a contestant in ISS.i goes like nadam,sama vedhaksharangal,poothu nilkuna .....

thank you

ramya

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Can anyone give me the lyrics of the song 'nadam' from sindoora rekha???pls

thanks
ramya

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Post by Adidaivam »

IDea Star Singer 2008

Permanent Judges are

M.G.Srikumar --- the singer

Ouseppachan ---- Malayalam Music Director

P.Unnikrishnan ---- the singer (Carnatic & Filmy)

then, L.R. Eswari, Sujatha & Vani Jayaram (all singers) comes and goes one by one so far.

regards

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Post by Adidaivam »

Those who would have seen the grand finale of Idea Star Singer, can you pls explain how the documents of the flat were able to be presented to Najeem by Confident Group immediately when he was declared the winner by Dr. Bala Murali Krishna? The gift was in Stamp Paper and obviously, it must be the title deed in the name of Najeem for the flat. How instantaneously they could prepare it on the spot, is baffling me…..



Yes, it is crystal clear that Najeem was decided to be the winner and the gift was prepared well in advance. The "drama" of the selection of winner by sms+marks was just to fool us. Asianet was able to get around 8 lakhs sms for all the participants and assuming a meager income of Rs. 2.50 per sms to Asianet (SMS to Idea star singer in India costs Rs 5 and sms from gulf countries no need to tell!), they would have bagged Rs 20 lakhs easily, just only from the Grand Finale!!

The well wishes filed a case against Asianet and Judges in the Attingal court, for cheating the musicians and contestants

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Post by thanjavooran »

Two days back one contestant [ khadar?] during performance round on other languages sang an arabic song. It resembled at few places our Karahara priya. I expected the judges Unni and sarath would mention this. I am interested to know our forumites views on this if they had a chance to listen . IMO Chinese music mostly resemble our carnatic raga [ mohanam ? ]
Thanajvooran

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Post by thanjavooran »

Our judges should learn a lot from their counterparts in Hindi channels. Those judges not only enjoy the performance also do encourage the participants. Here all the judges are tight faced without any expression as a poker player. IMHO the remarks by sarath is little pungent. ousi pachan is an exception.
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Post by thanjavooran »

Y'day there was a cake cutting function in connexion with 150 th episode. The highlight of this progm was a skit by four persons dressed like the four permanent judges . Usha udup and sarath's roll were very apt . Quite enjoyable. The contestants selections are getting tougher in every stage.
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Sarath's comments are becoming very strong nowadays. No doubt he is a great singer and also a disciple of BMK. He tortures the young contestants by his strong words. This was also pointed out by one of the guest celebrities Y'day

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Idea Star Singer 2008

Sonia and Vivekanandan
The function was a live telecast and lasted for 5 hrs and 30 mts.
Thanjavooran

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Post by subramanianpp »

For folks who are interested the next edition of the ISS is on. this time the judges panel has been enriched(a very very high degree of understatement ) by none other than K S Chitra. What a humble human being despite such great great achivements in then field of music. The particpants are yet to make their marks despite so many rounds. Of course other two judges are old timers Sreekumar and Sharath. Wish u happy listening and viewing

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Yesterday season 4, 14th round elimination event. After narrowing down the list to two the left overs were Danny and Chikka. One should be out. While announcing the result the coordinator Ranjani mentioned that it is most unfair judgement for Chikka to be out on this round. Srikumar one of the judges also mentioned that Chikka was good as compared to Danny during her travel in all these rounds. This caused little flutter and Danny was out of mood and did not relish the comment made by them. There was some editing in the telecast and finally Danny half heartedly accepted his advancing to the next round. This could have been avoided had the VIPs thought twice before offering such comments.

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Hi,

I stumbled upon this thread... I'm sure almost all of you will not agree to my views. Still let me write my views:

ISS is a good exposure to all the participants in the sense, they get a stage wherein they get noticed. But I pity the way judges comment on the performance except a few... Viewers who do not have any idea about CM or ragas would think that the comments and technical aspects that the judges say are great things. But in reality these are the very basic things... So, I don't find anything great in their commenting capability. Any layman who has fine laya and raga sense can very much point out if the Shruthi or Tala goes... So, let us not talk about the greatness of the judges in passing comments.

The only guy who has got stuff is Mr.Sharath; he has demonstrated his skills as early as in the film Pavithram and also, he is a student of BMK sir. MG Sreekumar :grin: I would not rate him even a 3rd class when it comes to classical music. He does not have the right pronounciation, right bhavam and more over the Gauravam or Grip. He sings krithis as if he is singing some film song - that is his biggest drawback. And he thinks he is a perfecto in CM :grin:
And Chitra Ma'm (who is my favourite), she also cannot handle krithis perfectly.

At one instance, I heared Mr. Sharath asking a participant about Tisram and Chatusram or some thing like that. He should sit with people who knows stuff and then ask these questions rather than pointing queries to poor participants who even don't have formal scientific training of CM.

Neverthless, the program is a hit and the channel and idea are minting money by fooling the people who are ready to be fooled. For the judges its easy money, sit and relax on a chair and pass comments on kids who are newbies :grin:

And we got a new word - Sangati - (in Malayalam they pronounce it little different - nga is pronounced as ing as we say having ) Many of the participants do not know what it is, but they attempt. Its really pathetic... and look @ the pronounciation, its sanGati and not as I mentioned earlier

Well Done ISS, Asianet and Idea and Well Done viewers... by making such programmes a big success. Now ISS need to graduate to Indian Idol, where judges fight and do all the drama :) They are crying whenever some people are ousted :D Let them bring the fighting aspect as well.... not sure how it will go down with our Great Viewers.

Overall Good Job in fooling :clap:

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Chobi John was the winner of One Crore villa in season 4. Srinath and Preethi Warrior were runners. SPB was the chief guest. Season 5 starts from today with 39 contestants out of which Two are from Tamil nadu.

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Idea Star Singer season 5.
Yesterday a contestant, Ms. Aswithi sang a malayalam song. She missed a line. Somehow managed and completed with a short fumbling.. She became nervous and her hands were shivering to face the judges for their comments. Excepting Chitra and Usha Udup the other two judges made her restless by offering pungent remarks. It is high time that these judges learn or study human psychology. Or at least learn from their counter part in Indian idol episode.

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I missed this episode for quite sometime. Can any of our forumite update the present position viz, the number of contestants on the fray, judges etc. Advance thanx.
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Shri Sam swaminathan

Try at

http://www.malayalamlive.com/channels_a ... inger.html

venkatakailasam

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Shri Venkatakailasam,
Now I got it. ThankQ very much for the link.
with wishes,
Thanjavooran 07 03 2011

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For season 5 one of the judges presently is Mano from chennai. He behaves like a joker especially when he appeared as a Chinese yesterday. His own fellow judges excepting Anuradha did not like his attitude. I consider this is an insult to the audience of chennai. This is my view.
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Malayalees respect Tamils and the Tamil language but the reverse is not true. They are more knowledgeable in CM compared to the general Tamil population - now corrupted totally by dappankuttthu and gaana songs. Anuradha is doing a superb job and is the best among the judges... I agree Mano is the joker in the team :D

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Cm lover, sir, I beg to differ from you. On the other hand the reverse is true. Even tamilians who have settled in kerala (mostly inand around Palghat refer) to Tamilians as kizhakattikaran. Even though they are born Tmilians settled in kerala , they converse only in malayalam whenever they meet each other as if it is disgraceful to speak in Tamizh. Excuse me I am not sowing the seeds for a language war!!!

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IMHO Palghat Tamils (brahmins) speak MalTamil (malayalamized tamil). The Tanjoreans used to ridicule them for their language claiming that their Tamil was the authentic one. By far most educated Tamils speak only Tanglish these days. On the other hand malayalees generally speak only in almost pure malayalm among themselves. Blame the Tamils for the degeneration of the conversational Tamil language!

Yesterday in the 'Elimination' round of the IDEA two of the girls sang Tamil songs! Have you ever seen anyone singing a Malayalam song in a Tamil TV music competition? They do sing Telugu songs occasionally. Malayalees are more tolerant and broad minded....

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SIR, i STAND CORRECTED .

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