G.N. Balasubramaniam (GNB)

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arasi
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brigha-rich music is that they should fall right in the right place and time in the pidis they employ. If not, fans would conclude that the concert wasn't up to the mark. That too, if the voice gave trouble and 'spoke English', the concert failed. It didn't regain its quality, however much the vidvan tried to bolster it up.

Rajaji said once about music in general: Sangita yuddha is tougher than war which is conducted with tanks and bombs. You may win a war after losing one. In the war of music, if you once fail, beware!

What Rajaji spoke about in general about music can aptly be applied to brigha-oriented pani.GNB has marched past all these obstacles, and it was well demonstrated in his Mylai Sangeetha Sabha concert on 4-8-44.

How much we desire CM to be what it's supposed to be with its salient features! They were all there in GNB's alapana. We saw the svarupa of Bhairavi fully in it. From the majestic sound emanating from the nabhi. We witnessed his imagination which blended at will with amazing ease, traversing space. karvai-s which blended with sruti sparkled here and there. Briga-s were measured and gem-like.

On top of it, we marveled at the way GNB's voice has gained a fine quality and dimensions. I once heard a upanyasaka say that there aren't any singers now who can sing in three sthayi-s. As if to disprove it, GNB unleashed a few tricks. In the bhairavi alapana, he stayed at tara sthayi madhyama, and the audience went 'ha ha'! Then, he went up to panchama for a karvai. 'Ha, ha, ha!', went the crowd. Did he stop there? No! He went up to daivata. Now, the listeners who were gasping, lost their breath! Only when GNB descended down did they respire with relief.

A well known secret is: when Palghat Mani Iyer plays, any concert gains more points. Still, there is a special affinity in these two musicians performing together.The music is enhanced and in turn, the music heightens the fine mridangam playing.

As if to add beauty to the concert, Sri. Chowdiah's majestic violin nadam and Sri. Venu Naicker's 'jilu jilu' khanjira lifted the concert.
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Sorry for the truncated text, but no words were lost in it.

Now, thanks to Pasupathy again, and in advance too. Could you kindly bring the wonderful sketches which were there?

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A photo by Vikatan artist ' Maali' ( 1938)
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Sketches of GNB by Vikatan artists 'Maali' ( 1935) and 10 yrs later by " Silpi" .
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A sketch by 'Gopulu' in Vikatan ( 1956) .

Thanks, Arasi. For those who want to tackle the original Tamil article by Kalki ( written in 1944) , here's the link;
https://s-pasupathy.blogspot.com/2016/05/74.html

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Arasi ji and Pasupathy avl,
In one word Thanks.
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02 05 2018

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You can move all these posts to GNB thread please

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=302&p=334291#p334291

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Sanjay Subrahmanyan
‏He passed away in 1965 on this day. He was easily the biggest reason I started singing. My greatest inspiration! His music lives on! GN Balasubramaniam- Ragasudha Rasa https://youtu.be/q3310g275hI via @YouTube

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Lalitharam gave a superb presentation on the music of GNB at Raga Sudha Hall, Luz yesterday.

Writeup here : viewtopic.php?f=13&t=31182

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Lalitharam gave a superb presentation on the music of GNB at Raga Sudha Hall, Luz yesterday.

Writeup here : viewtopic.php?f=13&t=31182

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http://youtu.be/fgMVmJvMiQw
rare video of KAMBOTHI viruttham by GNB in Sakunthalai film
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"காம்போதி ராகத்தில் வேறு ஒருவருமே கையாண்டிராத வகையில் இரண்டு நிமிடத்திற்கும் சற்றுக் குறைவான நேரத்தில் அந்த ராகத்தின் அனைத்து லட்சணங்களையும் குழைத்து ஜிஎன்பி பாடியுள்ள "எனை மறந்தனன்” என்று தொடங்கும் விருத்தம். அதைக் கேட்பதற்காகவே அந்தக் காலத்து நாதஸ்வர வித்வான் திருவிடைமருதூர் வீருசாமி பிள்ளை மீண்டும் மீண்டும் சகுந்தலை திரைப்படத்தின் அந்தக் காட்சியை மட்டும் பார்த்தாராம். மேலும் மகாராஜபுரம் சந்தானம் தனக்கு இசை கற்பதற்கான ஆர்வம் வந்ததே அந்த காம்போதி விருத்தத்தைக் கேட்ட பிறகுதான் என்று கூறியிருக்கிறார்."
( there were only 3 songs by GNB in Sakunthalai film. ( one solo viruttham and two duets , nothing too great )
but the solo viruttham is accalaimed to be great.
gist: in a way no one else had handled, GNB had rendered the Kambodhi viruttham, bringing out all its beauties within just two mintes. It seems that the nagaswaram vidvan Thiruvidaimaruthoor Veerusami Pillai used to see that film again and again just for this song and Maharajapuram Santhanam has said that he got interested in learning CM only after hearing that viruttham. "
(from a page in website yet to be filled up https://sites.google.com/site/carnaticg ... ubramanyam)

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An old review in the Hindu from the archives, Dec 29, 1951.

http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday ... 502263.ece

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A rendition of his compositions by disciples TVR and SKR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_fQr93xfbs

Undoubtedly KaraikuDi SrI R Mani on Mridangam.

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merged the 'GNB Remembrance' thread from General discussions to the GNB thread

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A cross reference of my comments on the pantuvarAli kriti in the lyrics thread of tala/laya section.

viewtopic.php?f=8&t=17780&p=335194#p335194

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Some of GNB's albums released on Youtube (official channels) are available here :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k0At5SD60A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgEpgmEitOs (This is the one AIR usually plays)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh1DQYfRcN0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hm2WvE51sfI&t=599s (This is an amazing set. The meenakshi mE mudam dEhi has become my favourite rendition of his)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7jh3EYixR4&t=17s

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Lots of recordings of GNB's compositions were shared up here in the distant past. But back then internet and cloud technology wasn't up to today's times and these recordings vanished as they had come.

Request rasikas to go through these composer and musicians threads and re-share what they used to share.

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I stumbled upon an old book from 1956 by GNB on a few select compositions here :

http://musicresearchlibrary.net/omeka/items/show/2638
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e8xu8j75m6qp4 ... 4.pdf?dl=0

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SrinathK wrote: 14 Jul 2018, 12:06 Lots of recordings of GNB's compositions were shared up here in the distant past. But back then internet and cloud technology wasn't up to today's times and these recordings vanished as they had come.

Request rasikas to go through these composer and musicians threads and re-share what they used to share.
Srinathk
I have a lot of recordings where the main source of karanakaratha coolkarni .I especially donot miss anything on MMI -SSI and GNB . you can reach me and i will give you all of that to you . It is just way too much work to cherry pick and give it to you

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On May 01st,2018 , laltharam with support of vishnuramprasad ,(i call lalitharam as musical grandson of GNB and VRP is musical grandson o MMI.) did a fantastic Lecdem. Those are chronicled in this thread .
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=31182
Check #1 (srinathk), #4 to 7(rajeshnat) and # 16(crama) posts on attending live lecdem. The above thread is a GNB within GNB.

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Please share 'Maragatavallim' in Kambodhi sung by Sri.GNB.

I have heard present day musicians talk about this rendition
but I have not had the chance to listen to it.


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Thanks a lot for sharing the link.

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Today being GNB day, a special treat for all of you - a 4 hour concert, from 1965!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yiBM2AKKoZ4

This recording is the real deal - 4 hours and 16 min! Still haven't listened to it in full - but GNB's manodharma is on another level in this one. Nothing on earth suggests he only had a couple of months left at this point. This is an unbelievable performance.

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VidvAn SrI Sanjay subramhaNyan on GNB:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7gSbFoxzew

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GNB in dhavalaroopa in anandabhairavi
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Tiruppugazh in hamsanandi is most famous atleast in the order of my familiarity. There are many thiruppugazhs sung more as a pushover for the clock to reach 08:57 to 08:59 pm in one of 4 dozen ragas ,so that at 08:59 pm all performing musicians can sing nee nama roopamulaku .

How does GNB sing in just 2 mins plus such an impactful thukkada. Who tuned this thirruppugazh in anandabhairavi by any chance did GNB do this, what a selection of raga no one thought about presenting this raga to thirruppugazh . What a joy to hear such a standalone anandabhairavi so different from so many many anandabhairavi , Take a bow to this great mahavidwan GNB, even his 2 mins is filled with intense classicism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXKmQEHuCZ4

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rajeshnat wrote: 05 Apr 2019, 18:45 2 mins
from 2 mins to 42 mins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Tfl3vmgyI
what a RTP!!!! OMG
i can just imagine anandabhairavi as a raga-devatha!!

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RTP in tODi - with TNK on violin and PMI on the mridangam : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96iLKbtnsnI&t=865s

Incredible AlApanA, the tAnam is out of the world and so are the rAgamAlikA swaras. What weight, what power, what manueverability! GNB managed to push TNK to another level in this performance as well.

Speaking of which, that's another quality about him that stands out - many others would be very happy to have the accompanists play a gear or two lower and not steal their limelight. GNB and MMI were the only 2 who freely encouraged the team to play their best and GNB somehow got them to find an extra 2 gears in their own playing. Of course, so vast was the extent of his own capability that no one could really outplay him, but GNB was rare in that he openly praised his team and was one who shared the renumeration equally without reservation.

There is another tODi with LGJ and PMI. I haven't found a way to compile and pitch correct the recording, but that IMHO is possibly the most out of this world attempt at this pallavi and tODi I've ever heard. Will definitely share, because it totally blew my mind when I heard it - GNB went full TNR treatment with LGJ turning that violin into a stringed nagaswaram.

GNB could sing all sorts of brighas - slow ones, taan like ones, heavy ones, nagaswara flowing ones, linear ones, non-linear ones, plain rocket ones, patterned ones, and even the uncontrolled go for broke ones. The thing I've observed after years of listening to him is his keen sense of gamaka control -- he often adjusted this according to the accompanists that he was accompanying - with Chowdiah he went for plainer, faster brighas, with TNK and MSG heavier ones, with Lalgudi very flowing ones. He could adjust the weight of his brigha as well as the kind of phrases he used to let his violinist sync better with him.

I've come to know a lot of new info on GNB lately. Will share as soon as I've checked it with the true GNB bhaktas.

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The violinist's name is given as TNK. Is he not Mysore Chodiah

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SrinathK, your review of the RTP in Thodi by GNB with TNK and PMI helped in appreciating the finer aspects of the music better.
What are the ragas used in singing the ragamalika swarams - sahAnA, sAvEri, sindhubhairavi, ranjani and kathanakuthukalam ?

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Rasikas of CM, presenting to you the greatest tODi ever sung in my collections (yeah that recording I mentioned a couple of posts back) - the tODi of the titans!

https://soundcloud.com/user461654480/gn ... m-rtp-todi

There are some tracks that are great, some unbelievable, and then there's THIS.... - those brighas, those phrases, those replies by Lalgudi, the support by CSM in the pallavi and neraval (dear god, there is no way anyone can miss the landing with that kind of support!) and the unknown ghatam vidwan, everything about this RTP is in a totally other category - this is one for the gods.

If you find yourself wondering how someone can sing like that, and how anyone can literally play nAgaswaram on the violin, so am I. This is unreal. Totally blew my mind. I am still in a state of shock almost - so overwhelmed by the kind of virtuosity and imagination here. Even 3 days later, I still am on a high and those phrases are singing themselves in my ears!

Only one issue - the recording is a step sharp on the pitch. I couldn't fix that one.

EDIT : I was told that it was C S Murugabhoopathy on the mrdangam. So fixed that. Incredible stuff, he is literally the perfect compliment to GNB's style, almost mind reads what he's going to sing next.

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K Nagarajan wrote: 14 May 2019, 09:10 SrinathK, your review of the RTP in Thodi by GNB with TNK and PMI helped in appreciating the finer aspects of the music better.
What are the ragas used in singing the ragamalika swarams - sahAnA, sAvEri, sindhubhairavi, ranjani and kathanakuthukalam ?
You missed one - the set of rAgAs were sahAnA, sAvEri, behAg, ranjani and kathanakutuhalam (that is a rare find -- makes this the only recording that shows that he sang and improvised this rAgA as well).

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The untold story of GNB and Oothukadu Venkata Kavi (some of the latest very interesting info I got from my circles):

Not many people know that GNB was one of the pioneers in bringing out OVK's compositions to the world. I got this tidbit of info from Balakrishnan mama and Rajashekar mama and my friend Vishnu Vijayaraghavan.

https://www.facebook.com/balummi/posts/2165548060181420 -- "...Sharing a posting of Mahesh Bhuvaneswaran, G , grandson of GNB. Actually, when Swarna Venkatesa Dikshitar, approached my brother to popularise OOTHUKADU’s compositons , he set to tune 2 compositions, one of which is the song in Reetigowlai, which he intended to sing in Music Academy in mid 1950s. . Some how or other, he did not sing this song, but he taught his disciples, TRB, MLV and S. Kalyanaraman, who have rendered this beautiful song. BRINDAVANA NILAYE in several concerts.. Unfortunately, I am not able to recollect the other song.,.."

A long and interesting article (someone translate it for non-tamizh readers) by GNB on OVK : https://www.facebook.com/Gienbee/posts/ ... 0480684262

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G.N.BALASUBRAMANYAM- RECORDS AND CONCERTS

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'Gamakam- 'Lalitharam'- 'Parivadhini' has given us a very nice article about the 78 RPM records of GNB. It is in Tamizh.
https://carnaticmusicreview.wordpress.c ... %e0%af%8d/
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முதல் வகை 1930-களின் தொடக்கத்தில் கொடுக்கப்பட்டவை. தோடியில் ‘அம்ப நாது’, காம்போதியில் ‘சுப்ரமண்யாய நமஸ்தே’, சுத்த சாவேரியில் ‘தாரிநி தெலுஸு கொண்டி’, சாவேரியில் ‘பராசக்தி’, ஆனந்த பைரவியில் ‘ஓ ஜெகதம்பா’, போன்ற ரிக்கார்டுகள் இந்த கால கட்டத்தில் வெளி வந்தவை
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இரண்டாம் வகை ரிக்கார்டுகள் 1940-களில் வெளி வந்தவை
சண்முகப்ரியா, பூர்வி கல்யாணி, கல்யாணி, ஹிந்தோளம் போன்று பல பிரபலமான, விஸ்தாரமாகப் பாடக்கூடிய ராகங்களில், பல எளிய பாடல்கள் இந்த கால கட்டத்தில் வெளி வந்தன
. ‘சொன்னதைச் செய்திட’ (ராகமாலிகை), ‘(sonnadhai cheythida ')
கண்ணனை காண்பதெப்போ’ (ராகமாலிகை), 'kaNNanaik kaaNpatheppo'
‘காரணம் கேட்டு வாடி’ (பூர்வி கல்யாணி), 'kaaraNam kettu vaadi
‘கண்ணனே என் கணவன்’ (கல்யாணி), 'kaNNane en kaNavan'
‘நல்ல சகுனம் நோக்கிச் செல்லடி’ (சண்முகப்ரியா),'Nalla sakunam nokki'
போன்ற பல அழகிய தமிழ்ப் பாடல்கள் வெளி வந்து மக்கிளிடையே பிரபலமாயின. 1947-க்கு முன் தேச பக்தியைத் தூண்டும் வகையில் ‘ஜெயதி ஜெயதி பாரத மாதா’ (கமாஸ்),'jayathi jayathi bharatha matha' ‘
சமரஸ பாவன’ (பீம்ப்ளாஸ்) 'samarasa baavan'
போன்ற பாடல்களும் இக்காலகட்டத்தில் வந்தவையே.......ஜி.என்.பி புகழின் உச்சியில் இருந்த காலகட்டத்தில் வந்த அனைத்து ரிக்கார்டுகளுமே பிரபமடைந்தன என்றாலும்
‘வாஸ¤தேவயனி’ ரிக்கார்டும், Vasudevayani
‘திக்கு தெரியாத காட்டில்’ ரிக்கார்டும், ‘ 'dhikku theriyaatha kaattil'
ராதா சமேத கிருஷ்ணா’ ரிக்கார்டும், 'raadha samedha krishna'
‘ஹிமகிரி தனையே’ ரிக்கார்டும் himagiri thanaye hemalathe
ஜி.என்.பி-யின் பெயரை என்றும் நிலைக்கும் நிலைக்கு இட்டுச் சென்றன என்று கூறினால் அது மிகையாகாது..
ஜி.என்.பி-யால் மெருகேற்றப் பட்டு, கச்சேரி மேடைக்கு வந்த ‘வாஸ¤தேவயனி’ கிருதி, 1940-ஆம் வருடம் 78 rpm இசைத் தட்டாக வெளியானது. கும்பகோணம் ராஜமாணிக்கம் பிள்ளை வயலின், பாலக்காடு மணி ஐயர் மிருதங்கம். மொத்தமே எட்டு நிமிட நேரத்திற்குத்தான் பதிவு செய்யக் கூடிய இசைத் தட்டில், ஒரு ராகம் பாடி, அதை கிரஹித்து வயலின் ராகம் வாசித்து, கீர்த்தனைகளை சங்கதிகளுடன் பாடி, கல்பனை ஸ்வரம் பாடி, தனி ஆவர்த்தனமும் கொடுத்து, கேட்பவருக்கு நிறைவையும் கொடுப்பதென்பது, ‘next to impossible’, என்பார்களே, அந்த வகையில் சேரும். அதை இந்தக் கூட்டணி செய்து காட்டியது என்பதைச் சொல்லவும் வேண்டுமா என்ன?
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மூன்றாம் வகை ரிக்கார்டுகள் 1950-களில் வந்தவை. பழுத்த பழமான பின் கொடுத்திருக்கும்
‘சாதிஞ்சனே’ (ஆரபி), saadhinchane ( Aeabi)
‘சாமஜ வரகமனா’ (ஹிந்தோளம்), saamaja varagamana(HindoLam)
‘ஆனந்த நடேச’ (தோடி) aananda natesa (todi)
போன்ற ரிக்கார்டுகள் இந்த காலகட்டத்தில் வந்தவையாகும்
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1930-களிலும் 1940-களிலும் வெளியான ஜி.என்.பி ரிக்கார்டுகள் பலவற்றை குருந்தகடாகத் தொகுத்து வெளியுட்டுள்ளது. கிடைப்பதற்கரியனவாய் இருந்தவை இன்று சுலபமாக எல்லா இடங்களிலும் கிடைக்கின்றன. (ஜி.என்.பி-யின் புகழ் பெற்ற ரிக்கார்டுகள் என்று முன்பு குறிப்புட்டுள்ள நான்கு ரிக்கார்டுகளுமே தொகுப்பில் இடம் பெறாததுதான் ஒரே குறை).
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Many of these records are now available in youtube and a few have been given in 'we need more tamil songs' thread in General discussion.

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1)
GNB- Dhikku Theriyatha Kaattil Part 1

Ramdas40
Legendary Carnatic Musician GNB's song Part 1 being played on 78 RPM Gramophone record player by SS Mani, Chembur, Mumbai. GNB's two progenies - Grand Daughter Shweta and Great Grand Daughter Mangalam and Shweta's husband Balu are actively engrossed in listening and relishing this vintage record. Part 2 of the recording will follow on the next upload.
https://youtu.be/GPH_mOloNyI
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GNB Dhikku Thriyatha Kaattil Part 2- 78 RPM
https://youtu.be/ttrMYngEeWE
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GNB sings "Kannane en kanavan" in Kalyani Raga, lyrics composed by Suddhananda Bharathi. This 78 RPM record is being played and videographed by Chembur (Bombay) Mani.
https://youtu.be/WTQe_tUt4I8
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Kannanai Kanbatheppo-Ragamaligai - GN Balasubramaniam - 78 RPM
https://youtu.be/soLhyudEyJU
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Raju Asokan
Maha Vidwan G N Balasubramaniam- Samaganapriye -Ananda Bhairavi
https://youtu.be/EM2nWWirUjI
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MYCARNATIC UPLOAD
Nalla Sakunam-Shanmugapriya - GN Balasubramaniam - 78 RPM
https://youtu.be/Giyp1JG-kaY

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GNB thread exists in the vakgeyakaras section. There is an album called "A centennial retrospective" that contains his old records and it offers a rather fascinating insight into his evolution from 1930 IIRC.

https://musicbrainz.org/release/f16aa5e ... ac2c131a50

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SrinathK wrote: 28 Jan 2020, 10:20 GNB thread exists in the vakgeyakaras section. There is an album called "A centennial retrospective" that contains his old records and it offers a rather fascinating insight into his evolution from 1930 IIRC.

https://musicbrainz.org/release/f16aa5e ... ac2c131a50
My blog post is actually a look into the songs of that album (with some relevant background.) I wrote it when the album was released.
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I was shocked to find yesterday that there was no thread for GNB songs at all in Musicians section.!
True, GNB was also a composer . He should have a thread in both Composers and Musicians section.
Whatever youtube songs by GNB are available in youtube ( assuming that they do not allow if copyright claims are made) should be available in musician section.

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RSR wrote: 28 Jan 2020, 11:58 I was shocked to find yesterday that there was no thread for GNB songs at all in Musicians section.!
True, GNB was also a composer . He should have a thread in both Composers and Musicians section.
Whatever youtube songs by GNB are available in youtube ( assuming that they do not allow if copyright claims are made) should be available in musician section.
I suggested to mods in private a day back to merge into GNB vaggeyakkara thread which has got plenty of posts . For a person it is one thread . Musicians like Lalgudi and GNB have it in vaggeyakkara. RSR may not have known this , hence he created this . I suggest let us merge from here to the bigger thread. WE need not have 2 threads at all.

RSR,
At times you are always way too overcommunicating and it appears you keep regurgigating with your subjective viewpoints. We have google and youtube search and all of us know Raju Asokan etc who is a old timer in this forum , we can self help ourself there. WE are leaving a legacy of rich content , and unless we dont have collective discipline of not again and again reposting , our grandchildren will feel this is just a significant semi spam ground.

ALso over a period of a year or so you are using this site as your public home work journal after your daily private classwork of reading journals, books and browsing different sites. Please do cut down considerably your posts please please please .

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@6
@rajeshnat
Not agreed.
When new comers come to this forum and look for any famous musician, they would naturally look for it not in vaggeyakara section but in musician section.
GNB as a composer is different from GNB as a singer.
Moreover, giving samples of his recordings if in public domain is better than anything else . I believe that GNB as a vocalist is many more times more famous than GNB as a composer.
In the composer section, the songs actually composed by him should be placed.
( If I am not mistaken, he did not sing his own creations but always wanted them to be sung by others).
That would mean his voice will never be heard if he is found only in composers section.
It would be proper then to leave only such of his compositions sung by others in composers section and shift all the other GNB SONGS to musician section.
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As to your second point.
The musicians section should not be used for event announcements, concert reviews and such for present day artistes.
We have plenty of sections for such things.
This particular section is meant for giving information and samples of music of great musicians of the past.
1930-1965
1965-2000
2000 onwards.
I am using the forum correctly.
but you are using this section often to write about performing musicians.
I have never given any sample for the present day musicians.
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@SrinathK
The CD mentioned in commercial.
I am sure that if the same set of songs and other concerts also are available in public domain in youtube, it helps in taking it to more people.

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INRECO CARNATIC SONGS
G.N.BALASUBRAMANIAM | CARNATIC VOCAL (1910 -1965)
ALL INDIA RADIO- INRECO RELEASE.
https://youtu.be/bgEpgmEitOs
Swaminatha Paripalaya -MD
Kalala Nerchina- Thyagaraja
Marukelara O Raghava-Thyagaraja
Brochevarevarura - Mysore Vasudevachar

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RSR wrote: 28 Jan 2020, 13:13 GNB as a composer is different from GNB as a singer.
Moreover, giving samples of his recordings if in public domain is better than anything else . I believe that GNB as a vocalist is many more times more famous than GNB as a composer.
In the composer section, the songs actually composed by him should be placed.
RSR,
THe persona GNB as singer is way too popular than GNB as composer , no one can deny that . But we have one thread for him so that information is collated and aggregated once . Let the mods decide,

ONe last try that i am repeating again " RSR- ALso over a period of a year or so you are using this site as your public home work journal after your daily private classwork of reading journals, books and browsing different sites. Please do cut down considerably your posts please please please ."

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@rajeshnat
all of us know Raju Asokan etc who is a old timer in this forum , we can self help ourself there.

There are very few people who really have the 78 rpm collection.
I had a very good collection and transfered them to casette and then to CD. and then uploaded them to youtube. A typical and authentic 78 rpm record will run for slightly less than 3.3 minutes per side, From the duration we can say if it is a later day song or the original.
I am all for the original 78 rpm only because of the voice quality.
I do not know anyone in this forum personally. I mention the name of Raju Asokan to assure that it is genuine 78 rpm record.
Similarly with APKoil N Sapthagireesan.
This by way of clarification.
I am NOT doing my homework here. You will find VERY LITTLE of my pages in my many blog and websites on CM , lifted from this forum.
On the cobtrary, I bring a fresh insight and information for people who are really inclined.
My sites are meant for sharing music of old times of mostly 78 rpm era.
They seem to be very popular.
Try
dkpatta,malsongs
homage2mssubbulakshmi
ncvasanthakokilam
hindusthaniragams
in google.
My sites will appear in the very first page if not as first item.
I am gratified that my work has not been a waste.
I hope that you get it.

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@rajeshnat
ONe last try that i am repeating again
" RSR- ALso over a period of a year or so you are using this site as your public home work journal after your daily private classwork of reading journals, books and browsing different sites. Please do cut down considerably your posts please please please .
Not true. Even if true, what is wrong? Most of my work , for your information, on a very wide range of topics, technical, political, literary, philosophical and on music have been done elsewhere and not in this forum. I do read a number of journals, on-line books, nice blogs and sites. Better than learning from gossip and name-dropping. I do creative presentation. No mumbo-jumbo.

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https://youtu.be/HkG9g2HIDe8
just 2 minutes clip by Inreco.
alaap portion only?
is it from very early recording?

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A not so common article on GNB by KVN: https://carnaticmusicreview.wordpress.c ... vn_on_gnb/


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sivachinta1965 wrote: 30 Sep 2013, 09:31 Dear Rasikas

In one of the Katcheri Recordings of GNB, one Mosiah is appearing as the Violinsy. Can somebodt throw some light on this artist!?

Sivaprasad
I have it too! However, Mosiah in the place of the of the Mridangam artsist for mine.

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Shri G.B. Bhuvaneswaran, son of Shri G.N.B, had mentioned in one of the posts, that Mosiah was a local Mridangam artist of Nanjancode where this concert was held for a marriage function.

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