f holes in veena

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ajaysimha
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#1 f holes in veena

Post by ajaysimha » 13 Feb 2019, 17:14

hi rasikas,

when i sit down for veena practice at my home, i often hear my parents saying "i'm not able to hear you,play it loud."
so thought of getting the f-holes done to my veena(i meant small round hole)
i have seen veenas with one hole below the plucking area on the bigger drum.
and some veenas with one hole below the plucking area and 2-3 holes on veena dandi.

please do suggest the pros and cons of getting a hole drilled into the instrument.
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#2 Re: f holes in veena

Post by SrinathK » 14 Feb 2019, 08:34

It took like 800 years to perfect the shape on the violin, just saying :) http://www.openculture.com/2016/01/why- ... esign.html
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#3 Re: f holes in veena

Post by Sachi_R » 14 Feb 2019, 15:46

Ajay Simha,
Don't make two. Make one
shaped hole.

Seriously, we have a Ramji-make veena with a large hole in the centre below the plucking spot - with a cover, too. Opening the cover makes the sound more resonant, and longer-lasting. The volume is increased a little bit, but not too much.
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#4 Re: f holes in veena

Post by ajaysimha » 14 Feb 2019, 20:56

thanks sachi sir, for suggesting


what difference will om shaped hole make ? is this kind of acoustic come creativity solution
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#5 Re: f holes in veena

Post by Sachi_R » 14 Feb 2019, 21:04

Surely creative. And will look much better than the letter f.
The hole has to be big enough to cause resonance. It is a complex function of structure, material, natural frequencies, timbre etc.
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#6 Re: f holes in veena

Post by Sachi_R » 14 Feb 2019, 21:05

A guitar has a circular large hole. That's why Mr. Ramji made a circular hole in the veena.
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#7 Re: f holes in veena

Post by SrinathK » 14 Feb 2019, 21:50

I have a better idea if you don't mind. Turn off the fans and ac - air needs to be still and undisturbed. Remove as much furniture as possible in the room or along the lines to your targets. It'll do the job for a while.

Don't risk your instrument - right now there is not that much knowledge of sound holes in veenas, unlike violins, where it's well understood.
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#8 Re: f holes in veena

Post by Sachi_R » 14 Feb 2019, 22:14

That's right.
Once I attended a veena concert in the house of Smt Vidya Shankar (sister of Dr Chandrasekhar and expert on SS and gamakas) in Chennai. Her niece/granddaughter was playing a mikeless concert. The veena was heard very well even in the presence of mridangam.

I have attended also a veena concert of Doreswamy Iyengar with Palghat Mani Iyer in Delhi in 70s. No mike. It was a large gathering and somewhat open space!
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#9 Re: f holes in veena

Post by Sivaramakrishnan » 17 Feb 2019, 17:21

ajaysimha wrote:
13 Feb 2019, 17:14

.......seen....some veenas with one hole below the plucking area and 2-3 holes on veena dandi....
Hole below the plucking area.... Ok, fine.

2-3 holes on Veena dandi?
Oh No!
Where did you see this?
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#10 Re: f holes in veena

Post by ajaysimha » 20 Feb 2019, 18:26

SrinathK wrote:
14 Feb 2019, 21:50
I have a better idea if you don't mind. Turn off the fans and ac - air needs to be still and undisturbed.
yeah seems like an affordable option :D :D


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Sivaramakrishnan wrote:
17 Feb 2019, 17:21
2-3 holes on Veena dandi?
Oh No!
Where did you see this?
yeah i have seen this in a veena repair shop at bangalore.


i feel adding a circle with decent radius near plucking area will benefit acoustics.
here is a video from smt. padmavathi where we can observe the f-hole of veena
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIJLzg6egIQ
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