Dasha shata dala GNB - meaning needed

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HarishankarK
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Dasha shata dala GNB - meaning needed

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Request meaning of the below krithi

Dasha shata daLa. rAgA: hamsanAda. Adi tALA.

P: dasha shata daLa sarOjAsanE tridashAdi trimUrti vandya pAvanI
A: dasha dishAmOda tAmbUla smitAnanE dishakara prEma dIpita shubhAnganE
C: shashadhara kOTi prabhAkari sundari dasah kaNTha damana divya sOdari
VishadAcalakula vimala lalAmE vishvEshvara vAma vimarsha dAmE

Is it correct to assume that GNB has used Dhaivatam also in this Hamsanadam?

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The meaning:

dasha shata daLa sarOjAsanE - O One seated on the thousand-petal lotus!
pAvanI - O Purifiying one,
tridashAdi trimUrti vandya - saluted by the devas and Trinity and others!
smitAnanE - O One with a smiling face,
dasha dishAmOda tAmbUla - that contains the tambula(betel leaf with added spices and fragrances) which fills the ten directions with aroma!
shubhAnganE - O Auspicious lady,
dishAkara prEma dIpita - aflame with love for Shiva ( who has ten hands)

shashadhara kOTi prabhAkari - O One brilliant as a crore (ie countless) moons!
sundari - O Beautiful one!
dasha kaNTha damana divya sOdari - O Divine sister of Rama/Vishnu, subduer of the ten-headed Ravana!
vishadAcalakula vimala lalAmE - O Immaculate Tilaka(adornment) of the white mountain's(Himavan's) family!
vishvEshvara vAma vimarsha dhAmE - O One whose abode is understood to be the left (half) of Shiva, the Lord of the universe.

( I think the last two epithets should end with lalAman and dhAman to be grammatically correct. Comments welcome)

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Rajani,

Beautiful.

The language is superb and you have done a perfect translation.

Regards

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Very beautiful, Rajani!
A couple of questions:
1) what does tridaSa/त्रिदश mean?
2) what does diSAkara/दिशाकर mean?

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Before reading Rajani-ji's translation, the way I read the text (there are some typos) was
ताम्बूलस्मितानने - whose smile is coloured by the betel.. (ताम्बूलपूरितमुखी... ललितासहस्र...)
दिशकर may mean dispenser of fate (Shiva)
ललामा (स्त्री) is a lady who is the adornment of the family...
धामा again becomes a feminine noun...
And in vocative becomes ललामे धामे... (ललामे भाले ते बहुतर विशालेऽति विमले)

PS: Ravi, त्रिदश means devas (by a couple of etymologies)

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Thank you Savitriji and Ravi.

Sachi Sir, I think you are right about lalAma which can take a feminine ending. But dhAma I am not sure.

Ravi, as in the Melaraga chakra names, words like Veda, Rishi, Netra etc can used to denote numbers 4,7,2 etc. Dikshikar uses "vasu kONa" to mean 8-cornered ( there being 8 vasus). In that manner I have interpreted dishAkara to mean Shiva since He is described as pancAnana and hence has ten hands.

(But in Tevarams. He is described as eN-tOLar - having eight arms)

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Thank you
The meaning is great
The lyrics are superb and show that Sri GNB was such a different thinker

I didn't get the betel nut red colour thing though

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While singing I have heard 3 versions all of his school and it is sung as Dishakara and not Dishaakara
What is meaning of Dishakara?

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Tridashaadi means Devaas?? Can you please explain?

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Tridashaadi means Devaas?? Can you please explain?
Kantha means neck right?? Head is shiras isn't it?? How does that fit here??

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Vishada is being sung as Vishamachala ? Could that have some other meaning?
Disha moda means??
Dipita means?? Prema dipita??

Don't think other composers have used complex words like these
Amongst Samskrita composers Swathi Thirunal, GNB and Jayadevar a're unique
I feel Dikshitar composition meanings are easier than Swathi Thirunal

Observation about GNB
Most composers including Tyagarajar maintain Prasa only till anupallavi ( I think that is the grammar) but GNB always maintains till end

Sada palaya
Sudha Madhura
Sada Siva chitta
BUDHA archita
Gadha chakra
Sada shiva

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Tridashaadi means Devaas?? Can you please explain?
tridasha is a synonym for dEva. It means one who is always in the third stage of life (youth) and never ages.

Kantha means neck right?? Head is shiras isn't it?? How does that fit here??
You are right. Please read as ten-necked Ravana.

Vishada is being sung as Vishamachala ? Could that have some other meaning?
I don't know how Vishamachala can be interpreted in this context.

Disha moda means??
Amoda means sweet smell. So dishAmOda will be (filling) directions with a sweet smell. In other words, spreading fragrance.

Dipita means?? Prema dipita??
dIpita means ignited. Prema is love.

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I didn't get the betel nut red colour thing though:
The song does not mention red colour. Only the aroma of the tambulam spreading. It reflects a name in the Lalita Sahas. "karpUra vITikAmoda samAkarShi digantarA"

I don't know what dishakara means.

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Rajani wrote: 25 Jul 2019, 19:40 I didn't get the betel nut red colour thing though:
The red color from the tAmbUlam is supposed to serve the same function as lipstick - reddening the lips. The same imagery is invoked when gauri, the young daughter of the mountain king, nagapati kiSOri, that (he) always bows down to is described by Adi Sankara as: (her) mouth/lips reddened with tAmbUlam, eyes enhanced by collyrium, forehead marked with saffron (from Kashmir), slender neck adorned by a string of shining pearls, etc...
mukhE tE tAmbUlam, nayanayugaLEr kajjalakalA,
lalATE kASmIram, vilasati galE mauktikalatA
sphurat kAncI SATi pRthukaTitaTE hATakamayI
bhajAmi tvAm gaurIm nagapati kiSOrIm aviratam


But in this kRti of Sri GNB's, there is no reference to color as far as I can tell.

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Ravi, I was quoting Sri Harishankar, who had typed this : I didn't get the betel nut red colour thing though:

Both my earlier replies contain his questions/comment +my answers

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Rajani wrote: 25 Jul 2019, 22:01 Ravi, I was quoting Sri Harishankar, who had typed this : I didn't get the betel nut red colour thing though:

Both my earlier replies contain his questions/comment +my answers
Ah...apologies!

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Thanks so much rajani and rshankar
Now all clear

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Rajani-ji,

Is there a line in some song,
परन्धाम-प्रकीर्तिते

सरसिजनाभसोदरि!?

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One more clarification
Is the composer?
1. comparing the face of Ambal with that of a taamboola thattu? thaambula thattu is considered very very auspicious that's why exchanged in marriages etc,
2. or is he saying that the ingredients in taamboola thattu are on Ambal's face, that is a bit hard to imagine
3. Or is he saying that Ambaal has consumed thaamboolam and because of that aroma is coming from her breath. Just a face does not emit aroma, does it? Tejas yes but fragrance??? Not sure

I Know taamboolam is very fragrant (meetha paan without tobacco, I eat sometimes and yes it is v aromatic especially cardamom flavour dominating)

I would like to believe it is #1 but leave it to you experts who know

I need more convincing about comparing any aspect of Ambaal with Thaamboolam - other than auspiciousness of the Thaamboolam

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