Carnatic Youtube Collection

Miscellaneous topics on Carnatic music
Sath
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#51 Re: Carnatic Youtube Collection

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Thanks for pointing out your focus on search. I tried it out, and indeed, search is fantastic. In particular, being able to use approximate transliterations makes searching superb! Language options is cherry on top.

I now see there are at least two top-level use cases I see to using the app:
1) Search: when you already know what you want (app is already fantastic for this!)
2) Exploring and discovering: when you are in "exploration mode," seeking to expand your horizons

I tend to use (2) a lot: usually, I want to go discover all the songs in a certain ragam, and then pick one. The app doesn't quite work for this purpose currently, which is what motivated the feedback in my post above. BTW, your website works beautifully for exploring/discovering.

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#52 Re: Carnatic Youtube Collection

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BTW, just for my curiosity: technically, how does transliteration work so well with your website and app? How does the app recognize "gnb" as "G. N. Balasubramaniam", or "dhwijavanthi" as the correct ragam? How do videos with different spellings for the same song get indexed correctly to the same song?

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#53 Re: Carnatic Youtube Collection

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Ah, never mind, I tried out a fuzzy search library in python, and it actually works surprisingly well with the cases above.

ranjanimalavi
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#54 Re: Carnatic Youtube Collection

Post by ranjanimalavi »

You have fuzzy search in python : https://whoosh.readthedocs.io/en/latest/intro.html
For javascript I use: https://lucaong.github.io/minisearch/
Fuzzy search is standard part of any scripting languages.

Challenges are in transliterations of sanskritized words into tamil like: balagopala (~ palakopala) where the fuzzy search helps

Raman

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#55 Re: Carnatic Youtube Collection

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Good to know. The tweaks in the latest version are very good!

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#56 Re: Carnatic Youtube Collection

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This is not just an index of Carnatic tracks on Youtube, but likely the most comprehensive database, literally, of all Carnatic music compositions known to mankind. Great thanks on this fantastic effort, and for open sourcing it!

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#57 Re: Carnatic Youtube Collection

Post by MadChapu »

@ranjanimalavi, is it helpful to you to "reduce the noise" to submit errors? And if so, what is the best way to submit errors. To be clear, error rate is quite low and it's very usable overall.

Examples: AWPqzHrkT-A, HCJFJ4fHgIo are classified as Purvi, but they should be purvikalyani.

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#58 Re: Carnatic Youtube Collection

Post by ranjanimalavi »

madChapu,

I have kept the errors within 2%, but some cases are not known to me.

both has same title:
Isai Chaaral Maharajapuram S Srinivasan Poorvi Kalyana Alapana"
though description has poorvikalyani and nowhere there is a song.
and title wins which has only poorvi.

There is a developer contact under:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... n_IN&gl=US
[email protected]

you can send a mail to above email, i will correct it.

Raman

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