The gandharam in Varali

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radhika108
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#1 The gandharam in Varali

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Dear Music rasikas,

I am trying to listen compostions in varali and super confused, I am hearing the chatusruti rishabha-->sadharana gandharam oscillation for the ga position in compositions like kanakanaruchira and kavava and seshachala especially in the ascending notes.

Is this how it is sung? While descending it is a little lower but nevertheless osciallating between the same notes. Can someone please clarify? Thanks. If this has already been answered please point me to that thread.

Appreciate your help in advance.

Christian Kenit Ram
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#2 Re: The gandharam in Varali

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Many posts talk about this special Ga treatment , that´s why I was looking for a special topic dedicated to it .

viewtopic.php?p=353193&hilit=varali+gandharam#p353193 ____ Divyamani raga

From the Bhavapriya topic :viewtopic.php?p=263894&hilit=varali+gandharam#p263894

" There are some musicians who render the gandhaaram of Bhavapriya like the Varali gandhaaram. This almost sounds as if Bhavapriya is an amalgamation of Varali and Shanmukhapriya. But going by much empirical evidence, while Bhavapriya certainly shouldn’t sound like Shubhapantuvarali as we have seen, on no account it should sound even *remotely* like Varali! Hence this author is of the VERY strong opinion that Bhavapriya’s gandharam is best when rendered as a plain saadhaarana gandhaaram. "

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The last weeks I was listening to some Carnatic lectures about 22 shrutis . Since many details got forgotten by me , I decided to hear them again . Only that this time I had the Varali Ga in mind ....
I thought that it would get mentioned , but the fact is that the lectors mention the Todi ga ( komal sadharana Ga ) and the Shivaranjani ga ( sadharana ga ) as the lowest ga position in a 22 shruti context :|. The shuddha Gandhara is not included .

Maybe someone will do a compact video/lecture with all the swara varieties that are actually popular in ragas even if they do not fit into a 22 shruti context ; well maybe in a 53- , 66-shrutis or any logical or acceptable number ...

Btw CN Ravikiran gives some insights :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZb0HxQGEJc

KKishore
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#3 Re: The gandharam in Varali

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The G1 or Shuddha Gandharam of varali is sounded higher than chaturshruti rishabham (R2) with a soft pull in Arohanam/ascent but lower in avarohanam in dheerga fashion like what's heard in a typical vivadi manner. Maybe that's what U rightly heard so.
Please check this blog link on raga lakshana & details on varali if you r interested more to read: https://anuradhamahesh.wordpress.com/ca ... etachment/

Varali 'Ma' is usually famous too as being close to panchamam with a spl technical name for it or simply as "varali ma" too.
-- just put my thoughts & I am no expert just a listener

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