Madurai Mani Iyer

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RSR
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Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

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Madurai Mani Iyer-
Janaki Ramana-
Shuddhasimantini -
Adi-
Thyagaraja SwAmi
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uploaded by Carnatic Ecstasy.....
.indeed!

https://youtu.be/KXpUCTWmGOs
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I think, Thyagaraja Swami alone has given us a kruthi in this rare raaga. That too, just one kruthi.
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Lakshman
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Apart from Tyagaraja's song, there are over 20 krtis in this raga in my database.

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@Lakshman
ji,
I was thinking of the Trinity only.
It is very unlikely that any pre-Trinity composer had used this raagam.
To the best of my knowledge, even Swathi , a contemporary of SwamikaL had not used it.
- It will be informative if you can share the list of kruthis in this raagam from your database.
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Very likely , that all of them were second generation or third generation composers ,
-Will be thankful for correction, if i am wrong.

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songs in Shuddhasimantini:

Ajam Ashritavatsalam-Ennapadam Venkataramana Bhagavatar-Adi
Are re dasharatha (lng)-Govindacharya-Triputa
Ati kopama agadamma-Muttusvami Kavi-Adi
Ava sada varada mam-Narayanakutty Menon-Adi
Ayam vandeham-Bangalore S.Mukund-Chapu
Deva deva maheshvara bhavayami (tv)-Pattamadai Krishna Iyer-Adi
Duhkha mayamuga jaga-Sriramachandra Murti Sistla-Adi
Ekaratiya noduva banni namma loka-Purandaradasa-Adi
Ela ni dayaradu-K.M.Soundaryavalli-Adi
Enda velaiyum kanda velaiye (tv)-K.Muttukumarasvami Varagur-Adi
Janaki ramana bhakta parijata pahi sakala loka-Tyagaraja-Adi
Jaya jaya bhasmoddhalita vigraha jaya jaya shri-Muttiah Bhagavatar-Adi
Mahadeva paramashiva mayilapurikkiraiva shri-Papanasham Shivan-Adi
Mohana suruchira rupa-Rallapalli Anantakrishna Sharma-Adi
Mudam dehi devi sharade-Bangalore S.Mukund
Nenje kalpaka annai irukka kavalai en ni-Papanasham Shivan-Adi
Sananda sayita-A.J.Gopikrishnan-Rupaka
Shirappu inum shelvamum inum (tv)-Tiruvalluvar (VSG)-Adi
Shri chamundeshvari-Chitravina N.Ravikiran-Chapu
Vazhvile pudumai-Puduvai Shivam-Adi

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Re: Madurai Mani Iyer

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Typos:-
Shirappu inum shelvamum inum -- Shirappu Inum shelvamum Inum

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Thanks Pratyaksham Bala.

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@Lakshman
ref-p-1154
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Thank you for the list from your database.
Shyama Sastry and Thyagaraja swami followed the sampoorna mk system , which was propounded by Govindacharya. The composition cited by you as from Govindacharya, may not have been a kruthi but an illustration. As for Prandaradasa, there is no evidence that it was not re-tuned by a later musician-composer.
Venkata ramana bagavathar was a disciple of Thyagaraja.
Thus, it can be safely stated that it was the creation of that rare raagam by Thyagaraja as the cited list does not mention any kruthi by Shyama Sastry or Maharaja or MD or even by other direct disciples of Thyagaraja , of first generation, such as Maambuchavadi
or even by second generation like Patnam/ MV Sivan.
The other kruthis are rarely sung in concerts.
So JaanaKI ramaNA is synonymous with Suddha Seemanthini.
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Any information about Patthgamadi composer is welcome.
Thank you.

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"Carnatic music from 1932 - Stunning performance by young Madurai Mani Iyer"

https://youtu.be/tBL3bLart9E?si=tl6XXn4nRruaRyuH

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