Sanjay at MA - 12/30/07

carnaticarasika35 · Post by **carnaticarasika35** » 31 Dec 2007, 00:55

Any comments?

balu · Post by **balu** » 31 Dec 2007, 06:17

sanjay sang to afull house.aberi rtp was truly out of the world.

harimau · Post by **harimau** » 31 Dec 2007, 06:27

balu wrote:sanjay sang to afull house.aberi rtp was truly out of the world.

What was the pallavi line? Something like "Aha bheri mukkanikku Eedagumo"?

Ananda Bhairavi · Post by **Ananda Bhairavi** » 31 Dec 2007, 07:44

The pallavi line was 'Vellai tamarai poovil iruppal/ Veenai meettum oliyil iruppal' in Mishra Chapu.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 31 Dec 2007, 07:49

veLLait tAmaraip pUvil iruppAL, vINai Seyyum oliyil iruppAL (She sits on a white lotus and is alive in the sounds of a vINA). From Subrahmanya Bharati's verse...

mahavishnu · Post by **mahavishnu** » 31 Dec 2007, 08:21

harimau, that is exceptionally funny

sukanv · Post by **sukanv** » 31 Dec 2007, 08:52

did he sing it in Dha1 or Dha 2 ?

sridhar_ranga · Post by **sridhar_ranga** » 31 Dec 2007, 11:48

Would someone who attended the concert be kind enough to post a detailed review ... thanks a ton.

harimau · Post by **harimau** » 31 Dec 2007, 15:15

mahavishnu wrote:harimau, that is exceptionally funny

I am not quite satisfied with that sahitya, so here is another one:

"Mukkanikku Eedaguma bheri".

You have an arudhi at the end of "eedaguma", a nice karvai there and then "bheri".

jyestha07 · Post by **jyestha07** » 31 Dec 2007, 16:58

That is truly funny!! can we have more such pallavis from Harimau pl?!!
'ma sama osama/ ... ala TRS style is a possibility Uttarangam wanted!! Has a raga mudra too=D

rajaglan · Post by **rajaglan** » 01 Jan 2008, 10:53

Hi,

Can anyone create a songlist, accompaists, some review of the GREAT sanjay. I am just waiting to say that "wow I missed it " (joking).

harimau · Post by **harimau** » 01 Jan 2008, 12:30

jyestha07 wrote:That is truly funny!! can we have more such pallavis from Harimau pl?!!
'ma sama osama/ ... ala TRS style is a possibility Uttarangam wanted!! Has a raga mudra too=D

"ma sama Osama Nee mosama - Ulage solvathu pol"

jyestha07 · Post by **jyestha07** » 01 Jan 2008, 14:43

sabash!

raji · Post by **raji** » 01 Jan 2008, 14:50

Sanjay sang Karnatakadevagandhari rtpand not abheri ..the daivatham is chathushruthi and for abheri the daivatham should be Shuddha daivatham.
Raji

sethu · Post by **sethu** » 01 Jan 2008, 16:25

Here's the partial songlist...

1. Parvathi Nayaka - Bhoopalam

2. Vande Mataram - Kedaram

3. Narayani - A+ a thyagaraja kriti (forget which)

4. Kalyani - A+N+T...again forget which song

5. Ra ra raguveera - Atana

6. RTP - Abheri I thought?*

7 .....

* - does it matter??

Sanjay started with brisk renditions of items 1 and 2. The Narayani alapana was good after which Sanjay announced it was Narayani. I forget the thyagaraja kriti but I guess it can be uniquely mapped. The kalyani main was excellent and the exchanges between sanjay and nagai muralidharan was awesome. I feel they form a very good pair. I am not a very big fan of srimushnam's playing but he was very good on the given day. His thani with Neyveli venkatesh was one of the better thanis I have heard of him. Sanjay, as usual, chose a very nice filler kriti in Atana before embarking on an RTP in Abheri*. The ragam and tanam were brilliant - typical Sanjay's style but he did not have enough time for the pallavi. The pallavi was definitely good but I have heard more brilliant pallavis from Sanjay. I also feel that we should have 3 hour concerts. The concert concluded with some nice tail pieces but I didn't note down any. Apologies for any error!

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 01 Jan 2008, 17:01

According to the Academy souvenir, he would have sung rAmA nIvEgAni in nArAyaNi and nija dAsa varada in kalyANi by Patnam Subramania Iyer.

saravanan · Post by **saravanan** » 01 Jan 2008, 18:26

So should we take it as a not so brilliant concert since no usual Sanjay's fan has gushed about it even after 2 days?

sirsub11 · Post by **sirsub11** » 01 Jan 2008, 18:54

saravanan wrote:So should we take it as a not so brilliant concert since no usual Sanjay's fan has gushed about it even after 2 days?

saravanan's comment puts me in mind of people who feel that Sachin Tendulkar has failed if he scores a 70 or 80. I thought sethus's post came pretty close to gushing. Most of the other posts appeared to be an exercise in frivolity with their own clever permutaions on the pallavi line.
For myself, Sanjay did what he always does best - pushing the envelope, keeping everyone on edge, raising the tension to fever pitch and finally, the climactic blessed release. I met two well known musicians in the crowded passageway after the concert, and they were incoherent with joy.
Raising the bar is second nature to Sanjay, and long may he continue to do that, even if that means risking failure.

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 01 Jan 2008, 22:26

Sanjay's gushing fan responds:

Yaman versus Kalyani

Red Corner
Rashid Khan
Jyoti Goho (Harmonium)
Shubhankar Banerjee (Tabla)

Yaman in Vilambit and Drut Teental
Short Khyal in Kauns derivative of Kokilapriya/Gowrimanohari - Teental
Thumri in Mishra Pahadi
Aaj Radha Brak ko Chali - Bhairavi

Blue Corner
Sanjay Subrahmanyan
Nagai Muralidharan (Violin)
Srimushnam Raja Rao (Mrudangam)
Neyveli Venkatesh (Kanjira)

???
Vande Mataram - Bharatiyar (?) - Kedaram (S)
Rama Neeve â€“ Narayani â€“ Rupakam - Thyagaraja (R)
Nijadasavarada â€“ Kalyani â€“ Adi â€“ Patnam Subrahmanya Iyer â€“ RNST
Rara Raghu Veera â€“ Attana â€“ Adi â€“ Thyagaraja
RTP â€“ Vellai Thamarai â€“ Misra Chapu
Tukkadas
Mangalam

The similarities began with the shock of hennaed hair glistening in the arc lights. Their timbres were chips from the same block, etched by analogous rings of strain and overuse. Oh, and for those who are unfamiliar with the professional fortunes of one or the other, Ustad Rashid Khan and Vidwan Sanjay Subrahmanyan are also Chakravarthies of their respective domains, north and south of the Vindyas. With both raising Yaman/Kalyani as their battle standard, it was hard not be drawn into a comparison. It did not hurt that they were both beset by physical limiting factors, forcing them deeper into the wellsprings of creativity in their search for Nadabrahmam.

The Grand Moghul started with some distinct advantages. For one, his army of chords was a whole octave wider in range. His steed, the Boltaan, was a trailblazing Ferrari whereas the Chola Rajaâ€™s Brigha was, at best, a Hyundai Santro (dark grey in color!). In terms of artillery arrangements, the northernerâ€™s phalanx of andolans and meends was far more sophisticated than the overused kampita gamaka of his opponent. nRGM-NDM-GMDP-GDP growled King Khan, cutting loose with a lightning sargamâ€¦.Thalaivar could only respond with a meek varja phrase. Rashid Bhai really should have won hands downâ€¦

But Sanjay was equipped with a quality that helped Alexander cut through the formidable Persian army and the Russians weather the Blitzkrieg â€“ the Brahmastra of passion edged with steely will. For Rashid Khan, it was new territory and the invigorating smell of exotic blood. The Academy was ready and waiting for reaperâ€™s scythe. Alas, Yaman pottered about awkwardly, on the back of His wayward Buffalo whose bellows had lost the deadly edge of its salad days. After huffing and puffing for an hour and a half, with his noose entangled in all sorts of knots, the God of Death and his errant vahana were chivvied to an inglorious exit while rasikas hoping for a ride to Vaikuntham, hopped aboard 17C instead.

Kalyani too had her share of problems with her carrier but the lion was made of sterner stuff than its ungainly counterpart. While its roar failed to shock the audience into submission, it devised some crafty maneuvers around its prey to get maw on neck. When its teeth were found wanting in strength, it employed hands, feet, clawsâ€¦anything to hold on to its quarry - a kanakku here, an extra punch in the sangathi thereâ€¦The effort was somewhat labored but the objective was reasonably achieved â€“ most rasikas would have missed the last 17C that day.

Sanjayâ€™s defence of his fortress was ably assisted by Air Marshal Nagai Muraliâ€™s soaring alaapanas, which ran rings around Jyoti Gohoâ€™s unmaneouverable reed-box, while the majestic gait of Srimushnamâ€™s cavalry trampled the wild horses let loose by Subhankar Bannerjeeâ€™s tabla.

The assault from the north was thus repulsed but there is an internal unrest that will demand Sanjayâ€™s attention in the days to come. TM Krishna for one staked his claim to the throne with a very vocal Kambhojiâ€¦Ah, but that is a titanic tussle that will take many years to unfoldâ€¦.many interesting yearsâ€¦

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 01 Jan 2008, 23:10

The kalingA warrior's long-awaited 'mightier than the sword' implement writes at last. Well, the fingers move on the keyboard, if you wish.
Anachronisms are allowed in this heroic tale. (brahmAsrtA, blitzkrieg, roaming purAtana vAhanAs and the city bus). Street dogs growl along alley ways as the warrior, his mighty pen in pocket, returns from the sabhAs, using his favorite mode of transport --his own legs-- to bring us tidings...
We heave a sigh of relief. nAdabrahmam has allies after all, we realize, as the tale unfolds...

uday_shankar · Post by **uday_shankar** » 02 Jan 2008, 08:32

Arasi, the erstwhile Kalinga warrior speaketh from the depths of a post-modern space-time continuum stream of consciousness in which brahmastra and blitzkreig mix as readily as saadam and saambar. We dare not mess with his style, for should he walk away the loss will be most profoundly felt by the likes of you and me

.

That said, I am still not convinced that the epic "battle" might really have been "won" by anyone on either side of the vindhyas

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arasi · Post by **arasi** » 02 Jan 2008, 10:21

Exactly! NAdabrahmam has allies in music makers, not feuding princes. Imaginary enemy lines are drawn by
rasikAs of the intolerant kind . We are all entitled to our preferences in music and may it be so but in our zeal for protecting and nourishing CM, let us not go the way of the tamizh saying: vEliyE payirai mEivadu pOl (as a hedge's roots kill the crops it protects).
May the noble crusaders in the field forge ahead, each in his own way, and delight the rasikAs.
Meanwhile, let the inimitable scribe, rasikA, and notable man of many abilities keep us all entertained with his musings always...

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 02 Jan 2008, 11:28

Hmmm...perhaps seeing it as a battle was not a particularly rasika-like thing to do but the idea was tempting....

BTW, I am (or at least used to be) a great fan of Rashid Khan as well - I have most of his commercial releases including wonderful Miyan ki Todi and a Rageshri. Somehow his live performances were disappointing...his taans also seem to have lost their clarity and he appears unable to make up for that deficiency with emotional impact

Also i takes a really good Yaman to excite me (to some extent I have the same problem as Bharath/Rajesh but only in HM)...would have preferred a Dhanasri or Maru Behag, if not a Darbari...I must say it is time for the time theory of ragas to be consigned to the dust-bin - HM would be much better off without it....every time I hear a Lalith or a Multani recording in the late evening, I wonder why this absurd theory continues to hold sway...

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 02 Jan 2008, 12:01

You are a man of all talents, the 'victorious', and you fully well know that your fantasy-filled tale had nothing to do with my statement

hsuvarna · Post by **hsuvarna** » 03 Jan 2008, 06:05

Was it a real jugalbandi? or two separate concerts? or just gushing fans?

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 03 Jan 2008, 11:19

No jugalbandi - more the fervid imagination of a gushing fan

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 03 Jan 2008, 16:47

Fervid or feverish, tame or timid, musicians need rasikAs to sing to. The very fact that you listen to many of them and write about their performances (however allegorically at times), is not a bad thing. You keep the musicians in the picture and keep the rasikAs informed. True, tastes differ and we tend to 'gush' (not really) about the ones we enjoy listening to. Your postings inform, entertain and as Uday said, are essential fodder for the like of us. Some of you on the forum, the regular 'sharers of your concert experience', bring us an immediacy and some education about CM with your reviews.
While tastes differ (thank goodness for that), 'tasteless' comments and unnecessary deviations (I don't mean the relevant kind) are irksome. Instead of chiming in with inane comments, it would be nice if more rasikAs write about the concerts that they enjoy and share their enjoyment with us...

kssuresh · Post by **kssuresh** » 04 Jan 2008, 17:23

In the Academy's book, vande mAtaram was not there for Sanjay's concert, but a kAmbhOji piece was shown. I waited with great eagerness, but it did not materialise. Perhaps he decided to give it a miss after TMK's much talked about kAmbhOji a few days earlier!

Suresh

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 04 Jan 2008, 17:45

At least he broadly stuck to the printed schedule...I believe Bombay Jayashri completely deviated from the list!

grsastrigal · Post by **grsastrigal** » 05 Jan 2008, 09:36

BJ Not only deviated from the list, but from the Kriti too. As per Hindu-"she sang "Hara" not Hari in the Swati Tirunal Kriti-"Narasimha Mamava". The song goes like this -Hara Virincha Vasava Nutha"- Vishnu worshipped by Siva, Brahma and Devas". Hindu's review circastically concludes that Vishnu (Hari) cannot worship himself !!!.

"Sanjay's Naryani and Kalyani and even his Aberi RTP fell short of expectations. Nagai played better than Sanjay"- Report says.

Jigyaasa · Post by **Jigyaasa** » 05 Jan 2008, 17:46

Is it VERY wrong to deviate? Even the Priya Sisters' list had pakkala nilabadi in it as main. They sang something else... Maybe it's better not to give a list at all like Nithyasree than to give a "wrong" list... But what if the artiste feels like singing something else on D-day? Or maybe his/her voice isn't in a position to do justice to a kriti on that day? I feel it's a non-issue, deviating from a list. In fact, the whole idea of a list is a total put-off in my opinion. Destroys the suspense...
Or it could even happen that u look at the list n think you've heard the main item by the same artiste b4, so u don't go, but he/she decides to sing somthing else spontaneously... N u end up missin something you'd been dying to hear...
In fact, pardon me for sounding disrespectful(if I do), but I'm really suspicious why the critic makes such a big deal of deviating- practically the tag-line for his piece... I'd go as far as saying he'd probably had a good mind to cook up a review without even attending the concert but had second thoughts n look what happened! (they say such things DO happen although I didn't believe it in the beginning, especially cuz I'm an avid reader of The Hindu and have certain expectations from it's reviews if not reviewers... But lemme give an instance: Sri N.Vijay Siva concluded his Music Academy concert with iyalisayil(husEnI) instead of apakAranindai as mentioned in the souvenir but in the review, "The concert came to a close with a Thirupugazh in Chakravakam, chatusra jampa talam" is what is written) If the accusation sounds preposterous, it's probably because I'm angry with the emphasis placed on deviation. How the concert or the review for that matter was, is another issue...

kamavardhani · Post by **kamavardhani** » 05 Jan 2008, 19:21

I feel the issue of a list can be solved by the Academy in a different way... they can bring out the souvenir AFTER the concert season is over. Anyway, only the members and musicians get a free copy, not the public! This way the artistes can render what they feel ON THE DAY of the concert and not feel constrained by a songlist they might have rustled up on some other day in a totally different frame of mind. And the Academy can have an accurate historical record in its souvenir. And V Subrahmaniam can still vent his pent-up frustrations...