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BTW.... to anyone who was at Raghu sir's felicitation on the 5th (earlier this month) at NGS... is there any way of getting a copy of that documentary video that was shown? Indira Menon got some really RARE footage in that (including a video of Chembai with a very young PMI... and a video of GNB with LGJ and Raghu!!)
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For those who have not already seen this, please visit www.palghatraghu.com .. The videos feature an incredible thani by Raghu sir. What a magician the man is!
I echo Sankirnam's thoughts; has anyone recorded the Raghu sir felicitation? if so, can the video footage of Raghu sir with LGJ sir and GNB please be shared?!
I echo Sankirnam's thoughts; has anyone recorded the Raghu sir felicitation? if so, can the video footage of Raghu sir with LGJ sir and GNB please be shared?!
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Here is a nice article I found on Raghu Sir:
http://www.vijayalakshmysubramaniam.com ... traghu.htm
I didn't know Manoj Siva learnt from him for as long as 15 years !!!.
http://www.vijayalakshmysubramaniam.com ... traghu.htm
I didn't know Manoj Siva learnt from him for as long as 15 years !!!.
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sure there are. i have heard atleast 2 or 3. i found one at http://www.sangeethamshare.org/gvr/SSI_ ... s/SSI_LGJ/
although the mridangist's name isn't mentioned, it does sound like Palghat Raghu.
although the mridangist's name isn't mentioned, it does sound like Palghat Raghu.
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To : Mr. Kulkarni
Dear Sir:
I have not come across any SSI concert with Raghu. I once checked with Mr. PSN as well years ago and he opined even he doesn't remember any with Raghu. But if Raghu has accompanied it might be Kuchi mridangam and the nadham will be distinct. If the year is known it is relatively easy to confirm. God bless you/family.
Regards
Guru
5-Dec-8
Dear Sir:
I have not come across any SSI concert with Raghu. I once checked with Mr. PSN as well years ago and he opined even he doesn't remember any with Raghu. But if Raghu has accompanied it might be Kuchi mridangam and the nadham will be distinct. If the year is known it is relatively easy to confirm. God bless you/family.
Regards
Guru
5-Dec-8
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Appu, carnatica's website lists SSI's 1992 Navarathri Mandapam concert with PR: (SSI18) http://www.carnatica.net/ramanathan/music/ssi-tapes.htm
This is the singular reference to an SSI-PR association I found on the net!
This is the singular reference to an SSI-PR association I found on the net!
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7-Dec-8
Dear All:
I thank Mr. Ku(Coo)lkarni for the uploads. If anyone has the AIR excerpts (SSI-TNK-PR-92-Navarathiri Mandapam) in mp3 format which is being cited here, please upload atleast the RTP if not the full concert to listen. Raghu used Kuchi long ago and occasionally. It is only Kappi ever since. 60's witnessed him playing Kuchi sometimes I was told.
Regards
Guru
Dear All:
I thank Mr. Ku(Coo)lkarni for the uploads. If anyone has the AIR excerpts (SSI-TNK-PR-92-Navarathiri Mandapam) in mp3 format which is being cited here, please upload atleast the RTP if not the full concert to listen. Raghu used Kuchi long ago and occasionally. It is only Kappi ever since. 60's witnessed him playing Kuchi sometimes I was told.
Regards
Guru
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http://sangeethamshare.org/hariharan/Ne ... andari.mp3
Raghu Sir's accompaniment for the swarams is just awesome... Kulkarni has posted aparAdhamulanniyu from the same concert on another thread...
Raghu Sir's accompaniment for the swarams is just awesome... Kulkarni has posted aparAdhamulanniyu from the same concert on another thread...
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Kuchi and kappi are varieties of mridangam, involving a slight change in right-hand head. You would have to look very closely to see any difference, but there is a noticeable difference in sound, the kutchi mridangam having more vibration, and the kappi being closer to the sound of tabla.
Kutchi mridangam has small slivers of reed inserted radially under the top-most layer of skin. These give a slight snare effect, hence the vibration. Kappi has the two layers held slightly apart by tiny particles of grit.
Kutchi mridangam has small slivers of reed inserted radially under the top-most layer of skin. These give a slight snare effect, hence the vibration. Kappi has the two layers held slightly apart by tiny particles of grit.
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There is no majority, but each mrudangist will have their own individual preference. Raghu sir used to use kucchi in the 60's and 70's and switched to kappi sometime in the 80's. Palghat Mani Iyer only ever used kappi, as did Thanjavur Upendran sir. Karaikudi Mani also only uses kappi.
UKS sir used to use kappi, but now only uses kucchi. Sankaran has only used kucchi, as far as i know.
This should help get some orientation as to what kappi and kuchi mrudangams sound like.
UKS sir used to use kappi, but now only uses kucchi. Sankaran has only used kucchi, as far as i know.
This should help get some orientation as to what kappi and kuchi mrudangams sound like.
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Dr T K Murthy too uses Kappi only if I am not mistaken.sankirnam wrote:There is no majority, but each mrudangist will have their own individual preference. Raghu sir used to use kucchi in the 60's and 70's and switched to kappi sometime in the 80's. Palghat Mani Iyer only ever used kappi, as did Thanjavur Upendran sir. Karaikudi Mani also only uses kappi.
UKS sir used to use kappi, but now only uses kucchi. Sankaran has only used kucchi, as far as i know.
This should help get some orientation as to what kappi and kuchi mrudangams sound like.
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Yes, cienu you are right.
Vijay, most artists will take kuchi mrudangams with them when they come on foreign tours, since kuchi mrudangams are more forgiving to wear and tear on the valanthalai. If one or two pieces of the black "saadam" fall out, the overall nadam is not disturbed much. But in kappi, if one piece even starts vibrating a little bit, the nadam will be disturbed and extraneous noises will come (like a faint rattling or "ssssh" sound).
Vijay, most artists will take kuchi mrudangams with them when they come on foreign tours, since kuchi mrudangams are more forgiving to wear and tear on the valanthalai. If one or two pieces of the black "saadam" fall out, the overall nadam is not disturbed much. But in kappi, if one piece even starts vibrating a little bit, the nadam will be disturbed and extraneous noises will come (like a faint rattling or "ssssh" sound).
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8-Dec-8
Dear Mr. Coolkarni:
I listened to the RTP Thillai of SSI uploaded by you. In my view as someone who has followed Raghu for many years it is close to Raghu, but not him it seems. Sollus are sounding close, the nadham(Kattai) is also close but the fingering differs. The Korvai ignoramus talks about is played by many leave alone Raghu. By the way he is a genius and not an ignoramus. I request ignoramus to upload the SSI-TNK-Raghu-92-Navarathiri-AIR Excerpts if he has or anyone has. In my view SSI would not have relished Raghu as Raghu's talam keeping is deadly and the main artist has to sweat it out making it not comfortable. That is/was Raghu. Only musicians like KVN/DKJ/MDR/Ramnad Krishnan/S.Balachandar can gel with Raghu. Raghu's famed thani in 1967(KVN-MSG-Raghu-Bangalore Manjunath-MA) is Kuchi and only he can do such thrikalams. Any mridangam player is capable of thrikalams, but in the third speed/kalam it is Raghu who will show the way. God bless Raghu sir and all the members of this forum.
Regards
Guru
Dear Mr. Coolkarni:
I listened to the RTP Thillai of SSI uploaded by you. In my view as someone who has followed Raghu for many years it is close to Raghu, but not him it seems. Sollus are sounding close, the nadham(Kattai) is also close but the fingering differs. The Korvai ignoramus talks about is played by many leave alone Raghu. By the way he is a genius and not an ignoramus. I request ignoramus to upload the SSI-TNK-Raghu-92-Navarathiri-AIR Excerpts if he has or anyone has. In my view SSI would not have relished Raghu as Raghu's talam keeping is deadly and the main artist has to sweat it out making it not comfortable. That is/was Raghu. Only musicians like KVN/DKJ/MDR/Ramnad Krishnan/S.Balachandar can gel with Raghu. Raghu's famed thani in 1967(KVN-MSG-Raghu-Bangalore Manjunath-MA) is Kuchi and only he can do such thrikalams. Any mridangam player is capable of thrikalams, but in the third speed/kalam it is Raghu who will show the way. God bless Raghu sir and all the members of this forum.
Regards
Guru
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dear pgaiyer
can you elaborate on the fingering which makes you doubt it is not PR? it sounded pretty close to me. dont want to argue , but i have not heard too many people play the korvai which i mentioned. not sure whether it was the 2nd round, the final korvai too is almost closely his, especially the improvisations in the 2nd and 3rd repeats - just asking. by no means argumentative.
can you elaborate on the fingering which makes you doubt it is not PR? it sounded pretty close to me. dont want to argue , but i have not heard too many people play the korvai which i mentioned. not sure whether it was the 2nd round, the final korvai too is almost closely his, especially the improvisations in the 2nd and 3rd repeats - just asking. by no means argumentative.
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Dear All Laya aficionados:
I listened to 116 and the Kanjira player could be the late V.Nagarajan sir. Again the treble/cut i.e., salangai nadham which was/is unique to VN is not there. VN's muthaipu/theermanam is legendary and it is also not there. I still am not sure whether the player is Raghu sir. Raghu's fingering is something different from the whole lot and the akshara suddham is also different. In mridangam parlance it is called adaichu vasikkaradhu, something Pazani Anna is/was famous for. Raghu's kalam is also legendary. If you listen to his playing for the Pallavis the way he play Tisram. The Thom of Raghu is also cast in the Pudukkottai school. In sum it could be Raghu sir but it may not be also. I have checked many times with PSN and he always opined Raghu sir's accompaniment to SSI????, well I don't recollect any of them. Only Raghu can identify. God bless you all.
Regards
Guru
I listened to 116 and the Kanjira player could be the late V.Nagarajan sir. Again the treble/cut i.e., salangai nadham which was/is unique to VN is not there. VN's muthaipu/theermanam is legendary and it is also not there. I still am not sure whether the player is Raghu sir. Raghu's fingering is something different from the whole lot and the akshara suddham is also different. In mridangam parlance it is called adaichu vasikkaradhu, something Pazani Anna is/was famous for. Raghu's kalam is also legendary. If you listen to his playing for the Pallavis the way he play Tisram. The Thom of Raghu is also cast in the Pudukkottai school. In sum it could be Raghu sir but it may not be also. I have checked many times with PSN and he always opined Raghu sir's accompaniment to SSI????, well I don't recollect any of them. Only Raghu can identify. God bless you all.
Regards
Guru
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Coolji,
With your permission, I will come to your place when you are free and listen to it at leisure. I was just able to listen to it intermittently with you the other day and do not have access to rapidshare to download the clips you uploaded. Though it is difficult to sometimes distinguish the Tanjavur school maestros, especially during the early years of their playing, there are (almost always) places that reveal the identity of the player.
Thanks once again for sharing these gems with us. May your tribe grow by leaps and bounds.
Ram
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May be this is question late by a year or so? I didn't know if you have seen it.
Did anyone see the Palghat Raghu Documentary released after the music season of 2007-08? It has videos (yes videos) of chembai vaidyanAta bhagavathar with MTC and MMI (video from the 40s, I guess), KVN with MC and PR (video from the 80s) and g nA bAlasubrahmaniam with LGJ and PR (video from the 60s). Amazing stuff. LGJ looks very handsome .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ4NiMWAWzc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mm6dHgY ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsDD_I8g ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzZorUCb ... re=related
Did anyone see the Palghat Raghu Documentary released after the music season of 2007-08? It has videos (yes videos) of chembai vaidyanAta bhagavathar with MTC and MMI (video from the 40s, I guess), KVN with MC and PR (video from the 80s) and g nA bAlasubrahmaniam with LGJ and PR (video from the 60s). Amazing stuff. LGJ looks very handsome .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQ4NiMWAWzc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Mm6dHgY ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsDD_I8g ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzZorUCb ... re=related
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Chembai: Along with ARI (still haven't seen a video of him) were the two artistes, whom I wanted to see (& listen) him sing. . I love the kuDumi of chembai mAmA.bilahari wrote:Particularly enjoyed Chembai. Do his grandsons perform regularly?
abhIshEk raghurAman performs often! I don't know about the mridangist grandson, ananta R. kRSNan.