I have a scene in my imaginary film where that giant, in every way, UKS, despite his age, beats off the goondas with just a casual touch of his powerful fingers. They remain in the gutter, as he proceeds, unconcerned, to his concert.cmlover wrote:... I couldn't contain my laughter when I visualized the octogenarians being drugged and bundled and delivered at cleve land and being whipped by 'cold' lashes to sing divine...
Thank you for proving my point about the lack of decency on this forum, Comrade Sadananthan. Cheap shots are easy to take and generally push people to the point at which they become "Enraged". I hope that Suma will refrain from responding to your low attack on her motives and let me do her dirty work. I am perfectly willing to take cheap shots, Comrade Sadananthan.sadananthan wrote:Interesting post Suma. If I am not mistaken, aren't you related to a violinist from Chicago who has found some "slot" in Cleveland? Don't have much hope. He will soon be dumped like many other NA artists and your views will change.
1. Thanks, mods, for stepping in! I doubt it will be necessary. I did a little bit of research on every post submitted by Comrade Sadananthan. He seems to be a slightly kooky conspiracy theorist and a rabid supporter of a certain young mridangist. He has had his arguments ripped to shreds in various other threads. The public record seems fairly straightforward on that front. But I can't help myself - he's too easy a target.sadananthan wrote:Enraged
I am not enraged but sympathetic towards people like Suma. I have no children or grand children who would go anywhere near CM. I am the only one, having migrated here still cling onto my culture. But I will nor budge from calling a spade a spade. I see lot of atrocities and irrrational approach in the whole drama using public donations. That is unfair. Some accountablity is called for. For your information I have been spending more than 1000$ through my own expenses and donations to the functions knowing fully well I have nothing to gain in terms of performace or award. But now I have decided to call it off.
...There are no atrocities here. Apartheid is an atrocity. Genocide is an atrocity. Comrade Sadananthan's posts are an atrocity.
*Oh!... the one thing I've realized is that this forum is a community of talkers. A lot of talk about how things should be done, why they should be done differently, why someone is wrong, who should be in charge, ad nauseum.
) are about? You mean... I have to find something else to do all day? That's exactly correct: build up the database!appu wrote:cmlover wrote: As a starter let us prepare a list of all the non-profit CM organizations with contact names and emails (phone #s) and we can publish it here at the Forum. The mutual exchange of information among the groups will promote a better understanding and a healthy atmosphere for CM in NA.
cml, A gentleman named Raghu has painstakingly put a spreadsheet of NA carnatic musicians ( both students and professionals) Carnatic sabhas (both for profit and not for profit) and a list of teachers
The website is www.mycarnatic.org
I guess what we need to do is help build up that database to its entirety.
cmlover wrote:Thanks Appu and Sreenadh
The link is not very helpful since it has not been updated. I wish there is a concerted effort on the part of NA based CM sabhas to link together so that artistes can be exchanged and promoted. Now that the Visa issues are getting tougher all the more reason that we exploit our local talents to promote CM. At the national level Cleveland can promote the talents which they are already doing but still we need communication at the grassroot levels. All that I meant is that we should not be complacent locally and finally point the finger at Cleveland for missing potential candidates.
. There is a "submit box where you can submit any listings of your choice. There are 200+ listings of North American Musicians and Teachers with detailed contact information. If you don't find a musician in particular, you can submit it directly on the website within a span of 20 seconds by filling out the information But I guess those words expressed by you need to be written by somebody. Let me continue in that vein. Don't you agree it is quite annoying and tiresome to read nitpicking complaints and those who find fault in everything and not see the good side of things. There is a saying 'panninalum kutram, pannavittalum kutram' ( damned if you do, damned if you don't ). That is what I am reminded of.If Sri Panigaru was approached atleast a few years earlier, the world of Carnatic Music would have gained much more than just the bala kanaka mayavvsundaram wrote: Last year, I went to Kurnool in Andhra to meet Dr Sripada Pinakapani Garu, the guru of both Nedunuri and Voleti. I had gone with a few musicians and we spent the entire day with him. He was excited that I had interacted with and could claim friendship with his guru Sri Ranga Ramnanuja Iyengar, the author of Krithi Mani Malai. He was also very pleased with the Sustaining Sampradaya program and agreed to teach "Bala Kanaka Maya". I had come prepared with all the necessary equipments and we had a class from Kurnool itself. What a voice ! At 93, he sang at 3 kattai and although he could not even sit up in his bed, he still taught with a lot of energy.
V V Sundaram
I dont think we are lucky. We infact have lost so much of their musical wealth by ignoring them in their PRIME. It is rather more appropriate to say that we are lucky as these greats have condesended the organisers request to perform and impart their knowldege!cmlover wrote:Aren't we lucky that you have rediscovered PP who has been languishing in the dark all these years? The credit of course goes to the Swati Festival for bringing her into the lime light. It is heartening to note that all these organizations are cooperating to bring recognition to the unknown gems of CM before they fade into oblivion!
With due respects to everyone, I wish to record one factoid here however irrelevant it may be to the main thread.. It is commonly believed that Ariyakudi Ramanuja Iyengar bani of this composition is the one that introduced the applause sangatis in this composition as compared to say Smt.DKP's or Kalpakam Mami's version. Infact even Ariyakudi's prime disciples were unaware of the origins of their master's version of this composition.vvsundaram wrote:
The 90 years old Vidwan Sri R K Srikantan is teaching now "Sri Subramanyaya" with one clear condition - no applauce sangathi-s will be taught. He said that he will impart the Ariyakkudi Ramanuja Iyengar bani for this kriti. We are all greatly honored that he too in spite of his frail health so readily accepted our request.
V V Sundaram
What are those disgruntled people afraid of? That the Cleveland Aradhana will drag them out of their warm California homes and to cold, snowy Cleveland? That they will be laughed out by the crowd when they play the kazoo? That VVS will send a bunch of mafiosi to break their knees?Hi Rasikas
I am posting this from NY as part of my frequent travels across the country. I see that my postings are generating much “heat” and less “light”. I want to reiterate that I have no interest in promoting any particular artist. I am neither an artist myself nor do I have children/grand children to promote. I do have friends around the nation who express their displeasure at what is going on Cleveland and other places and goad me into expressing them out of fear of their own doing so.
Corporate takeover, eh? So you must be rolling in money. You have already identified the student competition and "Sustaining Sampradaya" programs to be cash cows. So, why don't you take over the Cleveland Aradhana? Then, as part of the takeover, you can ask to do a complete audit of the Cleveland Aradhana and publish those results. However, I do expect that the Aradhana Committee would want a binding cmmitment from you to take it over, failing which you will pay, let us say, a couple of million dollars which should of course be pocket change for you.I see that it serves no purpose for me. I have decided to desist doing “public service” and focus on my career which is in corporate take over.
Are you aware that Smt. Kalpana Venkat prefers to focus on vocal music and not on the violin anymore? That while she has given vocal music concerts for the last couple of seasons in Chennai, she does not perform as a solo or accompanying violinist?However before doing that I tried to do a simple analysis of this year’s schedule focusing only on accompanists selected from outside India. The pattern has been similar in the past years, except for some changes. Hence let me focus on this year’s. The data looks as follows,
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May be some insiders can throw light on this and I assure you I will let the game “go on”.
You and me both Nick. Thanks for the resurgence of the thread. So harimau has raised a few valid points. However what is the big problem if sad ananthan is really a musician and not a corporate person as he mentions or is a relation of some reject musician candidate. That necessarily does not mean he should'nt ask these nosy questions for all we know, we might probably miss some great music of some musician which i am pretty sure the board members would agree (remember harimau's post on nobody listens to Nagaswaram concerts but speak about nagaswaram pidis) is the reality of our lives.nick H wrote:What a week for me on rasikas...
I've heard and liked carnatic music played on a keyboard --- and I'm agreeing with Harimau's posts!
This must be portentious. Watch the skies, people: who knows... comets? meteors? divine chariots?
Classic example of an ad hominem attack.harimau wrote:[Corporate takeover, eh? So you must be rolling in money. You have already identified the student competition and "Sustaining Sampradaya" programs to be cash cows. So, why don't you take over the Cleveland Aradhana?
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Dear VKV sir,vkv43034 wrote: As any one who has heard the recording knows its almost impossible to hear two voices. In the recording that was acceptable to M.S., T.S., HMV RAGHU etc there is a place- lasting close to 20 seconds-where only Radha's voice is heard. HMV Raghu said he could fix it thru' his expertise but M.S. said: leave it alone. Let every one know that Radha also sang & it was left that way!
I am currently visiting CHENNAI & AM NOT IN POSSESSION OF VISHNUSAHASWARANAMAM recording with me. VKVkaraharapriyajanyam wrote: Dear VKV sir,
Can you please tell me which place it is so that I can listen to it and find out?