Atlanta - Bringing Carnatic Music back into life ...

[vasanthakokilam]

Reethigowla: Your attempt at scorn and ridicule is quite comedic. And you are writing all that to make a better case for your side. Good tactic.... "it is so hard to drive this idea into your head.." .. yeah, right!! (That expression reminds me of someone else from your part of the world who used to write here a lot but not anymore. That was his favorite expression)

You do not know what a 'turf level issue' means. Who said anything about trivializing it?

You do not want to take this up locally with the organization. Fine, suit yourself.

But remember the advice I gave you in the above two posts. I meant it seriously. Your attitude and flame-bait posts are not going to win much empathy. I am done. I do not have anything more constructive to offer to you.

[venkatakailasam]

Normally I avoid browsing this thread.
Just curious as there is not anything happening in other threads.
Quite amusing people calling them self the cream of India living in the most advanced country of the world throwing mud and dirt on each other. Keep it up so that we, the less privileged can watch it
with enthusiasm .

venkatakailasam

[litmus]

Comrade reethi! Did you read my post? Pretty much what vk was saying except that she was a trifle euphemistic.

You seem to conveniently ignore questions and suggestions that put you on the spot. So how different are you from the ones that you are accusing of comparable crimes? You would much rather stand around and criticise everything- and be the quintessential armchair critic - than lift a finger to help improve matters.

BTW, do you play the mridangam?

[smala]

..."what vk was saying except that she was a trifle euphemistic."

Litmus is it blue or red, VK ain't a "she".

[venkatakailasam]

vk is not 'she'. It has to be 'he'. Posted at the same time

Continue further. waiting !!

venkatakailasam

[litmus]

Thanks for the correction.

Litmus is, as I mentioned in another thread, Lit(erature)Mus(ic). Covers pretty much every colour, I would hope.

[gee]

why isn't this thread locked yet??

[reethigowla48]

I have a simpler explanation.

reethigowla48 is a stop energy vampire.

This idiot can't. He prefers to spend his energy destroying something that exists.

Dear Vasanthakokilam and rasikas moderators,
Since this thread has been dealing with problems of profanity (and accusing me of being "profane") I would urge your attention to the above quoted comments by our fellow member. I think these are the worst and the most "profane" words ever in rasikas.org directly referred onto a user of this forum, especially from a member whose contribution to the thread has been nothing else than these !
Please clarify/acknowledge.
Thanks !!

[reethigowla48]

Quite amusing people calling them self the cream of India living in the most advanced country of the world throwing mud and dirt on each other.
venkatakailasam

Well. You have not read any of the previous posts in this thread. Refer to my post#96, to convince for yourselves that my hobby is not "throwing mud and dirt on each other" but honest, and unbiased explanation of truth and unconditional appreciation of good work. This forms the basic core of the science of debate or in Indian terms (TharkashAsthram)

[reethigowla48]

BTW, do you play the mridangam?

Yes I do. I also play well violin, veena, flute, keyboard and jalatharangam. I also have good acumen in vocal music
now you tell me what instruments you play

[reethigowla48]

Reethigowla: Your attempt at scorn and ridicule is quite comedic.

How can furnishing truthful facts be comedic? Please explain.

But remember the advice I gave you in the above two posts. I meant it seriously. Your attitude and flame-bait posts are not going to win much empathy. I am done. I do not have anything more constructive to offer to you.

Do you think I should listen to the advice given by some random observer who doesn't have the hands-on knowledge of the problem I am talking about and who doesnt even care to go through the very detailed explanations furnished? Also I am not trying to please you or anyone to win "empathy" or any such euphoric stuffs, as you yourselves have assumed conveniently.
The best constructive thing you can learn form this and offer in future is to follow the principle of "not making comments about something you have no idea about". You are fit to be the "moral police" of rasikas, but never a human being capable of unbiased debate.
Yes for all these detailed explanations from my side, I know you will ultimately choose to abolish me and my comments from here (as you often do), because that is the only way you can win over the situation to your and the other onlookers's favor. I will be happy to see it in fact, since that will be the best public demonstration of your cowardice and impotence. (I take back these last two sentences, if you happen not to abolish me, which but concerns me the least)
Thank you

[ramamantra]

PS: I think I should change my username to "Ashareeri". Thanks to NSG (vidyarti) for this idea. In Hindu mythology, you all know, we had very regular ashareeris, when the despotic kings and raakshasas would get so upset hearing it. Ashareeris were all very powerful since they proclaimed only the forthcoming truth and since they were not available in any tangible physical form to be destroyed or annihilated, they gave the ultimate torture to the despotic kings and raakshasas [/quote]

Hahaha! That is really a good one.

Btw, reethigowla, don't waste your energy fuming and fussing around these hypocrites. They will simply argue pointlessly without understanding the gist of your thoughts. Channelise your boiling blood elsewhere into some constructive ideas or actions. Not that I want to advise others but jus taking a leaf of my experience here. Sometimes, I try to fight back.

[reethigowla48]

why isn't this thread locked yet??

Gee: The above comment by you surprises me.
Let me quote here one of your previous comments in this same thread.

I have seen several comments in this post and reethigowla's older thread that have content along the lines of "stop complaining. if you don't like the concert, don't attend." etc etc. With all due respect, don't you think its improper to be making comments like these? Everyone should have an equal voice of opinion here. There is nothing wrong in critiquing a concert or introducing an idea. It is the rasika's personal opinion, and the point of this forum is for people to speak their minds...unless I am very much mistaken.

I am thinking how I should understand this stark contradiction.

[ramamantra]

[/quote]
The best constructive thing you can learn form this and offer in future is to follow the principle of "not making comments about something you have no idea about". You are fit to be the "moral police" of rasikas, but never a human being capable of unbiased debate.
[/quote]

You hit the nail on the head.

>Yes for all these detailed explanations from my side, I know you will ultimately choose to abolish me and my comments from here (as you often >do), because that is the only way you can win over the situation to your and the other onlookers's favor. I will be happy to see it in fact, since that >will be the best public demonstration of your cowardice and impotence. (I take back these last two sentences, if you happen not to abolish me)
>Thank you

No need to be a martyr. Kazhuthaigalukku theriyumaa karpoora vaasanai !!

[reethigowla48]

Paraphrasing my post#79 again..

:Hi All; This will be my last post in this thread.
So I am also closing my case here. My responsibility as a rasika, sincerely concerned about the quality of our music, is over here; I just tried to make some significant criticisms about the true pathetic state of affairs in Atlanta, so that there be some improvements in the current structure and functionalities; and there be motivation for true "promotion" of carnatic music in Atlanta by CAMAGA, as opposed to the existing "self-promotion" of carnatic music. I am very serious about quality of carnatic music and couldn't bear the concerts of great artists being made mere mockery on the stage. But as Ram Sriram throws all the blame on the Atlantan rasikas (he might next say that the Atlantan rasikas are all so boring people that he was never inspired to play well on the stage or render good leadership for CAMAGA!) and incessantly proclaims that he alone will be the official, everlasting, CAMAGA mridangist, I give up this case. Atlantans are free to take up this case again if they are serious about the quality of music they get for the money and the time they pay; if they choose to be silent and indifferent instead, they will have to be satisfied with the substandard minimal they get to experience. Nevertheless I shall do the bare minimal thing of withdrawing my support for this stubborn, autocratic organization always hesitant to any form of change and instead support other local and neighboring-city musical ventures and events with the best of my might and voluntarism.
I am thankful for everyone for all the good discussions we have had till now. Let the "autocratic moral police force" do whatever they want with this thread..It concerns me the least
Reethigowla48 8)

[sureshvv]

Dear Vasanthakokilam and rasikas moderators,
...
Please clarify/acknowledge.
Thanks !!

May be the mods can create another area like the "Member's Lounge" - may be call it the "Anonymous Lavatory" where reethigowla48 and his pals can happily hangout!

[gee]

reethigowla,

noone seems to be contributing anything anymore. everyone is reiterating the same facts or taking personal shots at one another. pretty boring and pointless. the subject of this thread was a good one, but the last 20+ posts haven't been really worthwhile. therefore, the thread should be locked.

[sureshvv]

+1

[smala]

..."Channelise your boiling blood elsewhere into some constructive ideas or actions.."

That's the sanest seen so far from the all attack mode side. Come back, reethigowla et al - with news like, OK, we have this name registered under 501(c) and have the ball rolling with x and y performing, a and b accompanying - that will be welcome relief and music to the ears.

[ramamantra]

..."Channelise your boiling blood elsewhere into some constructive ideas or actions.."

That's the sanest seen so far from the all attack mode side. Come back, reethigowla et al - with news like, OK, we have this name registered under 501(c) and have the ball rolling with x and y performing, a and b accompanying - that will be welcome relief and music to the ears.

Shyama, no need to quote me out of context and use it to attack reethi. I am fully supportive of reethi and muthu only.

[smala]

Right on - muthu-reethigowla and you vs one Mr Sriram. You got one thing backwards, attack is your prerogative, your only mode. The rest of us - mere spectators on a public forum to the three-pronged attack. No let up. Living in the U.S. you might have looked around to figure out by now positive steps in doing something work - better than tirades and negativity. Still not too late to do something, get the point?

Right on about the statement tucked into your support of other two, a little window of sanity, nevertheless.