sounds of hindustani and carnatic violin playing.

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coolkarni
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Nick H
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Yes, all those things looked good about esnips to me, too.

Girl in the photo? --- probably another thing my adblocker blocks! Maybe I ought to turn it off sometimes <Blush>!!! But Rapidshare is priced for Europe and USA, not India, and I baulk at the cost of becoming a paid-up member even for downloading only

e-snips does seem biased towards watching/listening on the site; there is always software that will capture, but many users do not want to be bothered with adding another thing to do. I believe you are familiar with Total Recorder: I think it is wonderful, and it permits me to take BBC Radio plays on flights and train journeys --- but now that I have left being a techie behind, I am coming to understand the attitudes that just want to be one click away from a result, and I'm sure many of your downloaders do not want to have to learn new stuff on the PC

sunayanaa
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ganesh_mourthy wrote:No bilahari, msg and msa are pretty the same in style. .
Though Parur family use the same techniques , one can easily make out whether MSA is playing or MSG is playing.

Similairly MA Sundaresan has his own variations and hence will be different from Narmadha

Druksh
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Re: sounds of hindustani and carnatic violin playing.

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Hey all....

This is a great Jugalbandi between two great Violinist!!!!! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsrWXkqG ... re=related

AMZING. Is all that comes to my mind when I hear this.

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Re: sounds of hindustani and carnatic violin playing.

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Hello everybody

I am a newbie in the field of Indian classical Music. I love the way CM violin sounds!!!

I have had a few lesson in western style violin. In WM the notes are "found" by muscle memory. In that the artist does not have to hear the notes (at least not in the beginning). Scotch tape are used to mark where the fingers should be placed, and after some time, the tapes are taken out. By this time, the student's hand has learned where the notes are.

Now, my question is this-
In CM, when the artist plays notes on Violin, what method do they use to identify the note? In that the slides look so difficult to execute and the same note can be approached from the top and the bottom. In this complex system, how would you teach an adult begginer where the notes are?

Also, the distance between the notes on the violin changes as we move away from the neck, so that would add to the difficulty!!

Plz answer. I think some of you must have some knowledge of CM violin. I have searched the net with this question, but never found a satisfying answer!!!

I am aware of CM violin lesson on youtube, but this question has not been dealt with even there!!!

Note - CM violinist should publish some books about the technique and style of CM violin. I mean Violin is now such a integral part of CM music, but very few artists have taken trouble to publish books that could shed some light on the technique used. I am surprised at the total lack of interest of Indian artists in this respect.

srikant1987
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Re: sounds of hindustani and carnatic violin playing.

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In CM, when the artist plays notes on Violin, what method do they use to identify the note? In that the slides look so difficult to execute and the same note can be approached from the top and the bottom. In this complex system, how would you teach an adult begginer where the notes are?
Most notes do occur flat in some Carnatic "raga" or another. It is essential, therefore, to know the position of these flat notes to play the violin fluently.

We are made to practise ascent and descent across two or two and a half octaves, maybe even three octaves eventually to get these if needed. However, we usually recognize the swarasthanas (roughly notes) by hearing and not keeping markers on the strings. It is usually "assumed" we know how each swarasthana sounds during home practice.

Note that we will need plenty of "muscle memory" not just for flat notes, but also for the "approach" and "work around" and "maneuver" required for each swara in a raga.

In actual execution, this muscle memory works hand in hand with aesthetic sense -- which itself is a combination of knowledge and creativity.

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