But I dont think am that old
Nice IDs :)
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fuddyduddy
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uday_shankar
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Ravi, ouch. The devil is in the "e"tail. Never possible to convey empathy, love, etc... in this limited medium. Do consider the possibility that I had nothing but empathy and love in my heart when at my abrasive worstrshankar wrote:U_S, carrying that joke/thought further, if you had done it, and posed the handle as a question, I guess the answer would have been 'an abrasive one'!(No offence - just a tongue-in-cheek remark)!!
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arasi
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arasi
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rshankar
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Uday - no need to apologize to me - I am a fan (of your style, and for the most part, of anyone else's that is non-conformist)! I love your take on things - different from mine, but exactly for that reason, gets me to think outside my narrow zone of comfort. I was just trying to be 'witty'! By the way, what is the point of a solvent that can't debride, be abrasive etc... etc... (would be like a fang-less snake!)Uday_Shankar wrote: Ravi, ouch. The devil is in the "e"tail. Never possible to convey empathy, love, etc... in this limited medium. Do consider the possibility that I had nothing but empathy and love in my heart when at my abrasive worst. Still, apologies for any past abrasions...don't preserve that memory in formaldehyde please.
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cmlover
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gobilalitha
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arasi
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CML and Gobilalitha,
The last thing I want to do is compete--so no elections, thanks.
vIra arasi? Well, if I deny that, I would lose my name too. How can one be an arasi without vIram? Anyway, it's just a name. Man or woman, each on this forum has many accomplishments and qualities which make an arasi insignificant.
As for you CML, it is known that you have a soft spot in your heart for me.
As for the female population on the forum, the more the merrier...
The last thing I want to do is compete--so no elections, thanks.
vIra arasi? Well, if I deny that, I would lose my name too. How can one be an arasi without vIram? Anyway, it's just a name. Man or woman, each on this forum has many accomplishments and qualities which make an arasi insignificant.
As for you CML, it is known that you have a soft spot in your heart for me.
As for the female population on the forum, the more the merrier...
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inconsequential
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cml sir,cmlover wrote:Don't mess up with the ultra-conservatives; they will rather kill their own mother than let their pet CM icons redecorated. By the by 'cmfanatic' is still available if anyone of them wants it
pray why this wild chase and needless dig at the 'conservatives' (if at all there are any here, thwarting the efforts of 'innovators'). Really, there have been one too many messages to this effect lately. After all, it is a classical art form and it is bound to have a wide spectrum of followers - (ultra) conservatives to (ultra) liberals
Uday, i usually enjoy reading your posts on various topics here - but, this one about cm evolution surprised me. The way CM sounds, keeps changing from time to time (imperceptibly): Is this a fact or not? Just as you yourself pointed out srI sakhArAma rAo's early idea to put a piece of wood on to a vEENai. Why this lament? What kind of evolution would you like to see (hear)?
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vasanthakokilam
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inconsequential
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Always_Evolving
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Incon: I wouldn't attach too much importance to it. Uncharacteristically acerbic outburst, prob provoked by that "Open Systems Architecture" thread! Homesick or not, Uday seems to have had some adventures
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rajaglan
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hi,
My name is Rajagopalan. I am not a great fan of my name. But mostly I never get this name in any account of a/c service providers, meaning it is already taken away and some meaningless options will be available. So all my accounts have this name rajaglan. I guess rarely people think of this abbreviation (gopalan shortened to glan). So after that i decided to use this as my idendity even if it is available. So no intention to write in nickname.
My name is Rajagopalan. I am not a great fan of my name. But mostly I never get this name in any account of a/c service providers, meaning it is already taken away and some meaningless options will be available. So all my accounts have this name rajaglan. I guess rarely people think of this abbreviation (gopalan shortened to glan). So after that i decided to use this as my idendity even if it is available. So no intention to write in nickname.
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uday_shankar
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Oops...I think it came out with far more sarcasm than intendedinconsequential wrote:i usually enjoy reading your posts on various topics here - but, this one about cm evolution surprised me. The way CM sounds, keeps changing from time to time (imperceptibly): Is this a fact or not? Just as you yourself pointed out srI sakhArAma rAo's early idea to put a piece of wood on to a vEENai. Why this lament? What kind of evolution would you like to see (hear)?
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cmlover
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Incon
I have no quarrels with those who hold concervative views at this Forum. But my quarrels are with those 'outside' who impede the progress/evolution of CM. For example the 'dvimadhyama ragas' of Kalyanaraman/ 3 or 4 svara ragas of BMK/ etc have died at birth without being given a chance by the CM practioners. They continue to sing the same old Trinity compositions without heeding or promoting new vaggeyakarkas exciting new compositions. In fact Ravikiran single handedly is trying to make the genius of OVK acceptable (how many do you hear at concerts ?). I feel sad innovations don't get a chance among CM practioners. Whence Uday's Formaldehyde comparison is just legitimate..
I have no quarrels with those who hold concervative views at this Forum. But my quarrels are with those 'outside' who impede the progress/evolution of CM. For example the 'dvimadhyama ragas' of Kalyanaraman/ 3 or 4 svara ragas of BMK/ etc have died at birth without being given a chance by the CM practioners. They continue to sing the same old Trinity compositions without heeding or promoting new vaggeyakarkas exciting new compositions. In fact Ravikiran single handedly is trying to make the genius of OVK acceptable (how many do you hear at concerts ?). I feel sad innovations don't get a chance among CM practioners. Whence Uday's Formaldehyde comparison is just legitimate..
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vs_manjunath
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I had a problem in addressing (in e mails) about Punarvasu & kmrasika. It's VK, the otherway. I hope, I have conveyed it correctly.
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inconsequential
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cml sir,
I am not sure that all the innovations that have 'not' happened in CM are due to conservatives, inside or outside. Somehow I am not able to believe that 'a certain set of people will be able to impede the progress/evolution of CM'. Maybe one can force a set of people to sit through an AlApanai in a 3/4 svara rAgA - but one can not force them to like it. As for new compositions and vAggEyakAras - I thought so many (new ones) are already being heard. I am neither old nor wise to dwell more on this topic - so I will rest here.
Uday - It's hard for me not to take you seriously
I am not sure that all the innovations that have 'not' happened in CM are due to conservatives, inside or outside. Somehow I am not able to believe that 'a certain set of people will be able to impede the progress/evolution of CM'. Maybe one can force a set of people to sit through an AlApanai in a 3/4 svara rAgA - but one can not force them to like it. As for new compositions and vAggEyakAras - I thought so many (new ones) are already being heard. I am neither old nor wise to dwell more on this topic - so I will rest here.
Uday - It's hard for me not to take you seriously
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girish_a
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For all the talk about conservatives forestalling innovation and all that, no one can stop an idea whose time has come. Simple as that. If a new idea comes that is positively different, it will gain acceptance, no matter what the traditionalists say or do.
If so-called innovations have been discarded, it is more likely that there were limitations to those innovations that thwarted their wide-spread acceptance. A conservative mindset, seemingly hard to overcome, is not immune to the march of time.
If so-called innovations have been discarded, it is more likely that there were limitations to those innovations that thwarted their wide-spread acceptance. A conservative mindset, seemingly hard to overcome, is not immune to the march of time.
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koyaliya
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inconsequential
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cml sir,cmlover wrote:incon
I know your heart is in the right place. I was only expressing my anguish since Uday's post touched me at a sensitive spot!
I do understand now. sorry, didn't mean to cause trouble.
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ragam-talam
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ragam-talam
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arasi
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Ravi,
Ah, associations, associations! I associated 'humanist' with the movement and so chose humane-ist. Afterall, being humane (towards animals too) is the key, isn't it? Man to man, man to woman, woman to woman--to all living things?
Though CML spoke of the feminism (Sakti) he found in my poetry, he did not imply that it was the kind which tends to put off the male and even the female of the population at times. In fighting injustice, you don't 'turn' injust yourself! In the collection, among other topics, some of the poems speak of the power of womanhood and some of abuse too. However, some are just about inequality among humans, whether it be a man or a woman...
Ah, associations, associations! I associated 'humanist' with the movement and so chose humane-ist. Afterall, being humane (towards animals too) is the key, isn't it? Man to man, man to woman, woman to woman--to all living things?
Though CML spoke of the feminism (Sakti) he found in my poetry, he did not imply that it was the kind which tends to put off the male and even the female of the population at times. In fighting injustice, you don't 'turn' injust yourself! In the collection, among other topics, some of the poems speak of the power of womanhood and some of abuse too. However, some are just about inequality among humans, whether it be a man or a woman...
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arasi
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R_T,
I know that fuddyduddy is the female of the species. Are you too? I did not know why you agreed with her. That's why I said' for whatever reason'.
CML, mon ami,
Though I can't imagine it coming from you, your quipping is a tad sexist, it seems
VK,
And you add a smiley!
I know that fuddyduddy is the female of the species. Are you too? I did not know why you agreed with her. That's why I said' for whatever reason'.
CML, mon ami,
Though I can't imagine it coming from you, your quipping is a tad sexist, it seems
VK,
And you add a smiley!
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vasanthakokilam
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cmlover
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I have said you symbolize Bharati's vision of womanhood! Look at the progress women have made in India. But unfortunately many of the Indian women in NA are becoming 'feminists' and consequently the younger generation of men are floundering since family values are getting lost. Hence my comment. Though I am in favour of equality the way you conceive (no pun intended
I feel sorry for the loss of traditional Indian values 
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arasi
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So do I, CML. I was kidding with you and VK.
Seriously, bArati also said, 'ceppiit tirivAraDi, kiLIyE, SeivadaRiyAraDi'. If not for 'uppenRum cIni enRum', such women do it for their own sake without thinking on a larger scale to include others. They ignore the past and the present too, in their narrow perspective and actions, it seems. I wonder why you say in NA. I find that the same is happening in India too. I do feel that modern materialism has a part in it. All of God's creatures need to live freely on earth. I am not talking merely of ademocracy. This is about freedom of individuals who feel responsible for their family, community, country and the world...
Seriously, bArati also said, 'ceppiit tirivAraDi, kiLIyE, SeivadaRiyAraDi'. If not for 'uppenRum cIni enRum', such women do it for their own sake without thinking on a larger scale to include others. They ignore the past and the present too, in their narrow perspective and actions, it seems. I wonder why you say in NA. I find that the same is happening in India too. I do feel that modern materialism has a part in it. All of God's creatures need to live freely on earth. I am not talking merely of ademocracy. This is about freedom of individuals who feel responsible for their family, community, country and the world...
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fuddyduddy
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mazhai
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ah! now, fuddyduddy is really a funny name...or ID....
is it like the new, crazy style of saying 'okie-dokie' for concurring with someones statement???
frankly okie-dokie irritates me a bit.... :O
a little about my ID. Its rather simple- just translated my name viz. Varsha into sanskrit/hindi/marathi (its the same in all three) and BINGO!!! mazhai!
and would definitely like to say amth about our spring cuckoo! I practically fell outta my chair when balaji mama (JB) revealed the true identity...

is it like the new, crazy style of saying 'okie-dokie' for concurring with someones statement???
frankly okie-dokie irritates me a bit.... :O
a little about my ID. Its rather simple- just translated my name viz. Varsha into sanskrit/hindi/marathi (its the same in all three) and BINGO!!! mazhai!
and would definitely like to say amth about our spring cuckoo! I practically fell outta my chair when balaji mama (JB) revealed the true identity...
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mazhai
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U'll have to modify that opinion as long as I'm around....Arasi madam, u have real competition!!!!cmlover wrote:At the rate arasi is collecting the 'fairer sex' one of these days she may stand for election at the Forum! No need since she is already the most popular among us
It is even possible that there are more women members at the Forum but that the minority appear to be more vocal!
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mazhai
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i think rjglan sounds cooler! what say?rajaglan wrote:hi,
My name is Rajagopalan. I am not a great fan of my name. But mostly I never get this name in any account of a/c service providers, meaning it is already taken away and some meaningless options will be available. So all my accounts have this name rajaglan. I guess rarely people think of this abbreviation (gopalan shortened to glan). So after that i decided to use this as my idendity even if it is available. So no intention to write in nickname.
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ragam-talam
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ragam-talam
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