Nostalgia . . . Mostly! ( in Tamil script)

Ponbhairavi · Post by **Ponbhairavi** » 10 Nov 2013, 07:54

The girl and the boy ( not a "man") behind the father are the eldest of the family of 7 children
the black object is not a panai and it is a fairly good representation. clue: it is made of iron and is an accessory to the "aduppu'
clue to the direction; Note the firewood.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 10 Nov 2013, 08:13

Black object: kumiTTi aDuppu

prajaigaL one, two three in the foreground: kumaTTikkoNDu varugudu! (We are sick to the stomach! Never again!)

dAvaNi girl in the background: unpleasant, yes, but why all this drama!

Sibling by her side: I'm 'grown' enough to take this, but why should I, I wonder /:)

The victim: no words needed

(

Mother: Let's get on with it and vacate the kitchen, all! I've to start cooking 8-|

PATTi: kaNNOliyO? IndA sarkarai! O:-)

Father: ennaDA, visiRik kAmbAle oru aDi vechEnnA! :-w

Thatha: pEsaRa ALaippAr! ivan gudichadellAm maRandu pOchO? :ymapplause:

teeny weeny: ThAthA, enakku adu vE...NDAmE! :-s

Ponbhairavi · Post by **Ponbhairavi** » 10 Nov 2013, 12:17

Arasi: correct. The kumutti uses charcoal as fuel so called kari kumutti.
you have added the audio to the picture which has thereby come to life
The aduppu in most traditional houses will be west facing so the the person who cooks is east facing. the direction of the logs indicates the east. the mother is facing east with a slight deviation of about 30 degrees,. The picture is culturally rich enough to a game of "I spy "
my LAST post on this
something preposterous.( may be my imagination !!): note the 2 ring like things lying on thefloor by the side of the sitting plank.
I think they are 2 spirals of kAnja ( dried) uppu nArathangAi urugai bits of which are given to prevent komattals.
May be we can send the extracts of the page to shri GOPULU and ask for his reaction !!

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 10 Nov 2013, 19:29

Great Discussion!

கொத்தமங்கலம் சுப்பு - 5 : ஔவையார்
ஔவையார் திரைப்படம்

http://s-pasupathy.blogspot.com/2013/11/5.html

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 10 Nov 2013, 20:33

Thanks Pasupathy for that great collection on Auvaiyaar.
This is one of my all-time favourite movie. You can watch it @
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjiyzRQX ... ure=relmfu

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 10 Nov 2013, 21:10

To me it appears that the girl and "man" are either the daughter and s-i-l or son and d-i-l of the mama. My choice is son and d-i-l.
He cannot be s-i-l to be subdued by that intimidating giant.
She has to be the d-i-l. Look at her disapproving, glaring look.
(of course she has not taken the viLakkeNNai

That must me his "married" son; look at the thickness of his pooNool!

Now what about the contents of the chaTTi and vessal in the front?

Arasi
Superb and appropriate dialogue:
Let me add
girl (d-i-l) - enna paaDu paDuttaraar intha manuShan
son - appA, vENDamnA viTTuDungO!

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 11 Nov 2013, 04:37

kAinda nArthangAi pieces--good find!

Milk boiling, and what's in the kal chaTTi? dIpAvali marundu?

I still stick with the two being older kids. A daughter-in-law in a dAvaNi? She would be wearing the whole nine-yards. Expression more like that of a daughter and not a d-i-l(of yore, I mean!).

See how 'vigaDan' thAthA and pATTi almost look alike (cousins, of course).

The clothes the females wear stand out--such pleasing colors!

We have seen endless pictures of children with sparklers and so on in the dIpAvaLi malars, but this takes the cake (bitter lemon pickle)?

Norman Rockwell's illustrations in the Saturday Evening Post were so good that in some of his drawings, he brought out all the fine brush strokes and expressions of a classic painter.

Gopulu is the same here!

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 11 Nov 2013, 05:30

arasi
On the dot!
How is the 'marunthu' made?
(smala can help!)
How long ago did the d-i-ls were wearing nine yards?

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 11 Nov 2013, 07:13

Not sure. Okay, I'll come down a notch and say--how about, a six yards sari, at least?

Oh, and see how they are only about half the size of the adults in the picture!

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 11 Nov 2013, 08:24

arasi wrote:
Norman Rockwell's illustrations in the Saturday Evening Post were so good that in some of his drawings, he brought out all the fine brush strokes and expressions of a classic painter.

Gopulu is the same here!

Glad to see a Norman Rockwell fan here!
Here are two with an "Indian-connection".
A famous one, Golden Rule.
http://www.un.org/cyberschoolbus/untour/subnor.htm

Another favorite is 'Willie's Rope Trick'
http://www.best-norman-rockwell-art.com ... radle.html

cacm · Post by **cacm** » 11 Nov 2013, 10:33

My wife & I were recently in N.E. to see the fall after a long time & VISITED various Norman Rockwell places where he lived & painted (including NYC!) & its amazing what a great artist he was. The new thing I learnt was Grandma Moses lived near him & was very close to him! VKV

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 11 Nov 2013, 22:43

VKV,
Didn't know that!
Grandma Moses is an inspiration, late bloomer as she was

Pasupathy,
Thanks, and could you please post a few of Rockwell's illustrations of expressive faces (of children, mainly) in every day scenes?

cacm · Post by **cacm** » 11 Nov 2013, 23:21

Dear Arasi,
GIVES OLD FOGGIES LIKE ME HOPE?!....Unfortunately it needs talents- like you- & if you don't have it then you are relegated to being an organiser?......(Attempetd joke) VKV

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 11 Nov 2013, 23:31

Here are some more NR Classics:
http://static2.parade.com/wp-content/up ... rs_p86.jpg

http://0.tqn.com/d/arthistory/1/0/0/2/1 ... y-1956.jpg

http://www.kingsacademy.com/mhodges/11_ ... ck-Eye.jpg

http://boothmuseum.org/wp-content/uploa ... nomast.jpg

http://artblot.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/rockwell.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c ... roject.jpg

http://uploads3.wikipaintings.org/image ... d-1927.jpg

http://www.artrenewal.org/artwork/015/1 ... -large.jpg

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_lPKGwE9mPkE/T ... 75-015.jpg

http://a1reproductions.com/girl-at-the- ... ckwell.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2674/402 ... e2af38.jpg

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 12 Nov 2013, 01:13

Pasupathy,
How many post-dIpAvali sparklers! Thanks a bundle! Interestingly, as with Gopulu's, the old pictures have dark hues to them, and the latter ones--how they shine! I love the details and the built-in thoughts in them (Discovery, for example). Each picture is a study in human expression and a visual lesson in the social modes of the times.

VKV,
I enjoyed your joke, but seriously, an organizer is no small fry. As for you, organizer, yes, but a volunteer, more so!

Yes, Grandma Moses is inspiring to us all in our golden years...

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 12 Nov 2013, 03:57

VKV, Arasi:

See Grandma Moses in this famous Norman Rockwell Painting!
http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/satur ... 1404-1.jpg

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 14 Nov 2013, 04:57

தேவன் - 14 : தேவன் நூற்றாண்டு விழா -5 : ’தினமணி’யில் ‘கலாரசிகன்’

http://s-pasupathy.blogspot.com/2013/11/14-5.html

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 14 Nov 2013, 06:34

மறந்து விட்டீர்
ஐந்து நாடுகளில் அறுபது நாட்கள் +
வேறு பிரயாணக் கட்டுரைகள்

கல்கி ஆனந்த விகடனிலிருந்து விலகக் காரணம் என்ன?

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 14 Nov 2013, 18:01

cmlover wrote:மறந்து விட்டீர்
ஐந்து நாடுகளில் அறுபது நாட்கள் +
வேறு பிரயாணக் கட்டுரைகள்

கல்கி ஆனந்த விகடனிலிருந்து விலகக் காரணம் என்ன?

1) இவை நூல்களாகக் கிடைக்கின்றன. (அல்லயன்ஸ்)

2) சத்யாகிரக இயக்கத்தில் காந்தியால் கல்கி தேர்ந்தெடுக்கப்பட்டு , தான் சிறைக்குப் போகும் செய்தியை வாசனுக்குச் சொன்னார்.ஆனால், வாசனிடம் இதற்கு அனுமதி முதலில் வாங்கவில்லை. பெயர் கொடுத்ததையும் சொல்லவில்லை. இதுவே அடிப்படைக் காரணம்.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 14 Nov 2013, 21:47

In short
Vasan non Gandhian
Sadasivam Gandhian!
Right?

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 14 Nov 2013, 22:17

Vasan was a business-man...( There is business-blood in Gandhi too!) He did not like Kalki leaving Vikatan in the lurch.
Though Kalki told him that Thumilan is there to take care of magazine. Told Kalki not to go to prison. Kalki said no. Then Vasan asked him to tender resignation so that his name won't be associated with Vikatan when going to prison.

Kalki then said, "OK I'll resume job after serving time in prison".
To that Vasan, responded, slowly and deliberately, "We will see about that later".

Thus did Kalki severe his ties with Vikatan.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 14 Nov 2013, 23:12

That was History!
And Kalki's best creations came after he left Vikatan!
But his Thyagabhumi (which was banned b the british Govt) was written whle he was at Vikatan!
That is ironical!

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 15 Nov 2013, 04:00

Yes, CML, you're right. A great turning point!
KaLvanin kAdhali (37-38) and TyagabUmi ( 38-39) were written while at Vikatan.

Vasan-Kalki interactions ...quite a story by itself. Inspite of many public arguments that arose between them, Vasan had great respect and affection for Kalki and vice versa Kalki, while criticizing few pictures of Gemini at first, was all praises for Chandralekha, Strange Bros and AvvaiyAr! ( see my earlier post..) Vasan republished Kalki's early writings for a year in Vikatan after Kalki's demise and in 1963, Vasan suddenly ..without announcements...brought out a Kalki Special Vikatan no. in Sept 63. It gave lots of chances to Gopulu (who was itching for it ) to sketch pictures for Kalki's article and caricatures of Kalki in Vikatan! Later on, of course, after Gopulu left Vikatan, he drew many pictures for Kalki-stories reproduced in Kalki Deepavali Malar-s! I wish Vikatan does something similar for Devan....

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 15 Nov 2013, 10:14

Gopulu must have a wealth of information on Kalki from those days!
Can you persuade him to share his memories with us here...
It will be a treasure for Tamil Literature!

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 15 Nov 2013, 21:43

Perhaps you meant Devan ? When Gopulu joined Vikatan in 45, Kalki had already left. So Gopulu did not have any
notable interaction with Kalki . Though Devan was the Editor, Devan was more a close friend and guide to Gopulu.

Only after Gopulu left Vikatan (after 20 yrs) and subsequently left also the ad Agency he had started, he became a freelance artist and began to draw in the 70's for Kalki, Amudha Surabhi , Vikatan etc. At that time he had chance to draw pictures for Kalki's republished stories in DeepavaLi Malars.

Some of his memories about Devan and Silpi...I have noted in my Thennaattuc celvangkaL posts. Some other reminiscences about Devan...I hope to post when I get round to it.

As for his bio, it was pubished as a serial in Amudhasurabhi. Later published as a book by Kizhakku Publishers,
called " kOdugaLAl oru vAzkkai". It contains many interesting details about his life in Vikatan, mainly.
https://www.nhm.in/shop/978-81-8368-908-3.html

An excerpt from his bio:
http://balhanuman.wordpress.com/2010/05 ... %E0%AF%81/

Another one:
http://balhanuman.wordpress.com/2010/10 ... %E0%AF%81/

Here are some articles you may enjoy reading:
http://www.hindu.com/fr/2005/05/20/stor ... 110300.htm

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp ... 125697.ece

and an interview with Gopulu
http://dinamani.com/weekly_supplements/ ... vice=print

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 15 Nov 2013, 21:44

Perhaps you meant Devan ? When Gopulu joined Vikatan in 45, Kalki had already left. So Gopulu did not have any
notable interaction with Kalki . Though Devan was the Editor, Devan was more a close friend and guide to Gopulu.

Only after Gopulu left Vikatan (after 20 yrs) and subsequently left also the ad Agency he had started, he became a freelance artist and began to draw in the 70's for Kalki, Amudha Surabhi , Vikatan etc. At that time he had chance to draw pictures for Kalki's republished stories in DeepavaLi Malars.

Some of his memories about Devan and Silpi...I have noted in my Thennaattuc celvangkaL posts. Some other reminiscences about Devan...I hope to post when I get round to it.

As for his bio, it was pubished as a serial in Amudhasurabhi. Later published as a book by Kizhakku Publishers,
called " kOdugaLAl oru vAzkkai". It contains many interesting details about his life in Vikatan, mainly.
https://www.nhm.in/shop/978-81-8368-908-3.html

An excerpt from his bio:
http://balhanuman.wordpress.com/2010/05 ... %E0%AF%81/

Another one:
http://balhanuman.wordpress.com/2010/10 ... %E0%AF%81/

Here are some articles you may enjoy reading:
http://www.hindu.com/fr/2005/05/20/stor ... 110300.htm

http://www.thehindu.com/todays-paper/tp ... 125697.ece

and an interview with Gopulu
http://dinamani.com/weekly_supplements/ ... vice=print

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 15 Nov 2013, 23:19

Thank yo so much!
Will enjoy reading them...

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 17 Nov 2013, 21:51

தேவன் - 15: ‘அம்பை’ யின் கட்டுரை
’தேவன்’ கதைகளில் பெண்கள்
‘அம்பை’

http://s-pasupathy.blogspot.com/2013/11/15.html

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 24 Nov 2013, 18:32

சாவி - 9: ’சிக்கனம்’ சின்னசாமி

http://s-pasupathy.blogspot.com/2013/11/9.html

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 28 Nov 2013, 01:39

இந்தியப் பெண்களின் படைப்புகளின் காப்பகம்: ஸ்பேரோ

http://s-pasupathy.blogspot.com/2013/11 ... st_27.html

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 02 Dec 2013, 07:07

இந்த மண் பயனுற வேண்டும்
பசுபதி
”சண்முக கவசம்” என்ற மாத இதழின் 2013 தீபாவளி மலரில் வெளியான என் கவிதை.

http://s-pasupathy.blogspot.com/2013/12/blog-post.html

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 05 Dec 2013, 07:25

சங்கத் தமிழ் வளர்த்த நங்கை : கவிதை
”கோபுர தரிசனம்” 2013 தீபாவளி மலரில் வெளியான கவிதை.
http://s-pasupathy.blogspot.com/2013/12 ... ost_4.html

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 06 Dec 2013, 04:37

கல்கி -5 : தமிழுக்கு ஒருவர்!

மீ.ப.சோமு

டிசம்பர் 5, 1954. பேராசிரியர் ‘கல்கி’ மறைந்த தினம்.

http://s-pasupathy.blogspot.com/2013/12/5.html

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 06 Dec 2013, 08:29

Just beautiful!
Add more from your collections!

My humble tribute:
वह "कल्कि" नही है।
पर आज कि और हमॆशा कॆलियॆ अमर है ॥

Where is yours?

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 06 Dec 2013, 18:39

நூற்றாண்டு நாயகன் நூலுலகை ஆண்டவன்
நேற்றைய நேர்த்தியை நீள்கதையால் போற்றினவன்;
பொன்னியின் செல்வனை மன்னவனாம் பார்த்திபனைக்
கன்னிசிவ காமியைக் கண்முன்னே காட்டினவன்;
நாவாலே நோவாத பேச்சு நகைச்சுவையால்
ஓயாமல் முத்தமிழை ஊக்குவித்த ஊழியன்;
'வண்டாடும் சோலை'யிலே 'மாலைப் பொழுதினிலே'
தண்டமிழ்க் 'காற்றினிலே' சங்கீதப் 'பூங்குயி'லாய்ப்
பல்குதமிழ்ப் பாரினிலே பல்லுயிரைத் தன்னீர்த்த
கல்கியெனுங் காந்தசக்தி காண்.

பசுபதி

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 07 Dec 2013, 01:47

பலே
பசுமை பதிகம்!

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 09 Dec 2013, 07:09

பதிவுகளின் தொகுப்பு: 176 – 200

http://s-pasupathy.blogspot.com/2013/12/176-200.html

Ponbhairavi · Post by **Ponbhairavi** » 09 Dec 2013, 14:42

கற்பனைப் பரி ஏறி எழுத்தாணி வாள் ஏந்தி
தமிழ் மண்ணில் உதித்த பத்தாம் அவதாரம்
ஆயிரம் ஆண்டு களாய் உறங்கிய சிற்பங்கள்
உயிர்பெற்று எழுந்தன கடல் மல்லைக் கரை ஓரம்
வரலாற்றுக்கு வாழ்வு தந்த தமிழ் துய்மா
உண்டேதி ராமுடு வண்டாடும் சோலைதனில்!
ஹரி காம்போதி அலமாரியில் இன்னொரு எழில் சேலை
தமிழிசை ஹாஸ்யம் தேசியம் பேசியவன்
என்ன அவசரமோ இன்னும் சில காலம் வாழ
ஏனோ இத்தமிழ் நாடு கொடுத்து வைக்கவில்லை !

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 09 Dec 2013, 18:18

Nice, Ponbhairavi!

Ponbhairavi · Post by **Ponbhairavi** » 09 Dec 2013, 20:53

Sincere thanks
rajagopalan

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 09 Dec 2013, 21:34

Ponbhairavi wrote: உண்டேதி ராமுடு வண்டாடும் சோலைதனில்!
!

This reminds me of a Musical Tid-bit . Perhaps many here know it.

When Gandhi was assassinated , Maharajapuram Viswanatha Iyer was singing at Thiruvaiyaru Tyagaraja Utsavam. Do you know what he was singing at that fatal moment?

Yes, the above song of Tyagaraja...

The famous Manikkodi writer Chitti Sundararajan (who was with AIR..which was relaying Tyagaraja Utsavam at that time) has written this in his memoirs.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 10 Dec 2013, 01:35

Thanks Ponbhairavi!
Nice tribute..

Ponbhairavi · Post by **Ponbhairavi** » 10 Dec 2013, 11:18

Pasupathy,
I did not know about the Maharajapuram coincidence.I am curious now to know about the meaning of the full song. But MSS,s niraval at padhathamaraigal nondhida is still ringing in my ears, particularly the soft way in which she will articulate the final nondhidaaaaa. today it sounds prophetic how the lotus footed one came searching for them (the singer and the composer) in this world in the peak of their glorious life.
CML: thanks

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 10 Dec 2013, 17:47

Ponbhairavi wrote:Pasupathy,
But MSS,s niraval at padhathamaraigal nondhida is still ringing in my ears, particularly the soft way in which she will articulate the final nondhidaaaaa. today it sounds prophetic how the lotus footed one came searching for them (the singer and the composer) in this world in the peak of their glorious life.

As I remember, Kalki composed this in the midst of 'Tamilisai" movement , in answer to criticisms that we do not have good Tamil songs with opportunities for singers to do neraval , swara etc and show off their capabilities.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 11 Dec 2013, 05:59

Same credit should be given to the Ragamalikai "maalaip pozhuthinile..".
That was featured in one of the DeepavaLi malar with Radha Vishvanathan (her adopted daughter)
posing the adavus...

MS was denied SK for a long time due to her championing Tamizh Isai.
Is there a documentaion (History) of the Tamizh Isai movement?

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 11 Dec 2013, 06:22

சொல்லயில் : கவிதை

http://s-pasupathy.blogspot.com/2013/12 ... st_10.html

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 11 Dec 2013, 22:56

சொல்லியலால் சொல்லயில் தொடுத்து பாரதிக்கு செல்லயில் சமைத்தார் பசுபதி!
இல் = மாளிகை

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 12 Dec 2013, 02:02

Thanks, CML.

I got a chance to read this poem in a Kaviyarangam on Dec 11 ( forgot the year) at Bharathi Memorial House, Triplicane itself..That was a thrilling experience. (Every year Vanavil Cultural Centre celebrates Bharathi Festival there.)

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 12 Dec 2013, 06:22

It is very nice and rhythmic to be sung as a Ragamalika!
Ask someone with good voice to sing and upload...

Pasupathy · Post by **Pasupathy** » 12 Dec 2013, 07:12

Thanks for the suggestion, CML.

Actually, it was set to music and sung by a friend, R S Mani many yrs ago...but
the 'history' behind this form of poem is much more important , I think.
கந்துக வரி

பொன்னிலங்கு பூங்கொடி பொலஞ்செய் கோதைவில்லிட
மின்னிலங்கு மேகலைகள் ஆர்ப்பவார்ப்ப எங்கணும்
தென்னன் வாழ்க வாழ்கவென்று சென்றுபந் தடித்துமே
தேவரார மார்பன் வாழ்கவென்று என்றுபந் தடித்துமே

kandhuka = ball ( பந்து) . Sung during ball-games by ladies.

The above occurs in Silappathikaram... it is perhaps the earliest occurrence of of 'santham' in Tamil lit.
( My poem's structure just mimics it) Hence the structure is a very important one in Tamil poetic forms.