All Rasikas in USA, Canada, [other overseas countries] [Specially Violinists]
Please do visit my thread V.S.Narasimhan, Violinist in Vidwans & Vidhushies heading without fail and post your opinions.
S.NAGESWARAN.
Introductions
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Nick H
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Please note: publication of e-mail addresses on the internet leads to a great deal of spam.
Those less familiar with the internet may not be aware that websites are constantly trawled and searched, both for legitimate reasons, eg by Google, Yahoo, etc, so that they may show up on search engines, and for illegitimate reasons, such as harvesting e-mail addresses for the world's spammers.
I would advise not to do it. I would advise caution in publishing other personal details on the internet too: remember that it is there for the whole world, not just fellow members of a forum, to see.
Those less familiar with the internet may not be aware that websites are constantly trawled and searched, both for legitimate reasons, eg by Google, Yahoo, etc, so that they may show up on search engines, and for illegitimate reasons, such as harvesting e-mail addresses for the world's spammers.
I would advise not to do it. I would advise caution in publishing other personal details on the internet too: remember that it is there for the whole world, not just fellow members of a forum, to see.
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S.NAGESWARAN
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ragam-talam
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Talking about trawlers, recently my computer got infected with a trojan/malware. Luckily I caught in on time and got the virus removed. Apparently I must have got it from one of the websites I had visited.
The mention in another thread about humma.com being a potentially infected site should serve as a caution for all.
Also, hopefully this forum itself is not attacked by one of these virus infectors!
Recently I was listening to a program that mentioned that hackers are getting cleverer day by day with creative ways of loading malware programs to people's computers.
The mention in another thread about humma.com being a potentially infected site should serve as a caution for all.
Also, hopefully this forum itself is not attacked by one of these virus infectors!
Recently I was listening to a program that mentioned that hackers are getting cleverer day by day with creative ways of loading malware programs to people's computers.
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rajaglan
- Posts: 709
- Joined: 29 Dec 2006, 21:34
1. City where u live.... Bangalore
2. Musical training...... never. Though I like to take now, memory may not cooperate. Listening (only) to CM for last 2 years in my sabbatical.
3. Favourite artistes... Sooo many. I have lots of commercial albums and downloaded mp3s. So I find almost every artist has produced best music in some songs. Heard lots of Sanjay, MSS, TMK, SSI, Usrinivas, MLV, MMI and these are my most fav artist. My second level list includes Maharajapuram sr, Sowmya, Aruna ,Sudha, nithyasree, Lalgudi, Shashank, Prassanna Venkataraman... I couldnot enjoy TNS much , must be that I am not that musically talented. GNB sounds too fast to me.
4. Favourite ragas... current fav are Keeravani, dhanyasi, Malayamarutham, Sankarabaranam, Gowrimanohari, Hamirkalyani, Kannnada, purvikalyani.
5. Special musical interests..... Ilayaraja's music, Reality music program and discuss, finding raga for film songs, anything that is music ( minus dancing while singing), attending CM concerts
2. Musical training...... never. Though I like to take now, memory may not cooperate. Listening (only) to CM for last 2 years in my sabbatical.
3. Favourite artistes... Sooo many. I have lots of commercial albums and downloaded mp3s. So I find almost every artist has produced best music in some songs. Heard lots of Sanjay, MSS, TMK, SSI, Usrinivas, MLV, MMI and these are my most fav artist. My second level list includes Maharajapuram sr, Sowmya, Aruna ,Sudha, nithyasree, Lalgudi, Shashank, Prassanna Venkataraman... I couldnot enjoy TNS much , must be that I am not that musically talented. GNB sounds too fast to me.
4. Favourite ragas... current fav are Keeravani, dhanyasi, Malayamarutham, Sankarabaranam, Gowrimanohari, Hamirkalyani, Kannnada, purvikalyani.
5. Special musical interests..... Ilayaraja's music, Reality music program and discuss, finding raga for film songs, anything that is music ( minus dancing while singing), attending CM concerts
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binmux
- Posts: 12
- Joined: 06 Apr 2009, 23:00
New member - joined a month back
1. City where I live - San Diego, CA
2. Musical Training - Learnt vocal for 6-7 years. Stopped a year back. My son 9 has been learning for 5 years now and daughter just started too. Otherwise been listening to CM for 15 years. (listening has resumed vigorously after a 5 year break when I recently my Google search landed on rasikas.org
). No CM background in family - got introduced through friends when in IISc, Bangalore and learnt a lot through film music.
3. Favorite musicians - Madurai Mani Iyer, Voleti Venkateswarulu, TNS, TVS, KVN, MS, LGJ, Ramnad Krishnan, Sanjay Subramanian, Ravi Kiran, Malladi Brothers & LBNTL TM Krishna.
Ilaiyraja, SPB, KJY, Janaki, Latha Mangeshkar & Vani Jayaram in film music.
4. Tough to select favorite ragas - But anyway Varali, Bowli, Kalyani, Nattai, Abhogi, Sriranjani, Mohanam, Lalitha & Shanmukhapriya - list goes on
5. Will soon start a thread - I am intrigued by the idea of so many vakrams in a raga (eg in Nattaikurinji)
1. City where I live - San Diego, CA
2. Musical Training - Learnt vocal for 6-7 years. Stopped a year back. My son 9 has been learning for 5 years now and daughter just started too. Otherwise been listening to CM for 15 years. (listening has resumed vigorously after a 5 year break when I recently my Google search landed on rasikas.org
). No CM background in family - got introduced through friends when in IISc, Bangalore and learnt a lot through film music.3. Favorite musicians - Madurai Mani Iyer, Voleti Venkateswarulu, TNS, TVS, KVN, MS, LGJ, Ramnad Krishnan, Sanjay Subramanian, Ravi Kiran, Malladi Brothers & LBNTL TM Krishna.
Ilaiyraja, SPB, KJY, Janaki, Latha Mangeshkar & Vani Jayaram in film music.
4. Tough to select favorite ragas
- But anyway Varali, Bowli, Kalyani, Nattai, Abhogi, Sriranjani, Mohanam, Lalitha & Shanmukhapriya - list goes on5. Will soon start a thread - I am intrigued by the idea of so many vakrams in a raga (eg in Nattaikurinji)
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ragam-talam
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binmux
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mazhai
- Posts: 50
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Name: Varsha Ramann
where i live: Pune, maharashtra, India
Music training: Learnt for 8 years from Smt. Rajam Krishnan (a disciple of Chembai Shri Vaidyanatha Bagavathar), learning at present from Mrs.Srilatha Sundararajan (a disciple of Dr.S. Ramanthan) and the Carnatica Brothers
Favorite artists: Sanjay Subramaniam, T.M.Krishna, Nithyashree Mahadevan, Lalgudi Jayaraman, Ranjani and Gayatri, Ganesh & Kumaresh, Aruna Sairam and many many many more....
favorite ragams: kamboji, kaanada, ataana, kalyani, kadanakutuhalam, kuntalavarali, varali, sahana, neelambari, shankarabharanam, naatai n many more....
musical interests: just tooooooo many!!!
where i live: Pune, maharashtra, India
Music training: Learnt for 8 years from Smt. Rajam Krishnan (a disciple of Chembai Shri Vaidyanatha Bagavathar), learning at present from Mrs.Srilatha Sundararajan (a disciple of Dr.S. Ramanthan) and the Carnatica Brothers
Favorite artists: Sanjay Subramaniam, T.M.Krishna, Nithyashree Mahadevan, Lalgudi Jayaraman, Ranjani and Gayatri, Ganesh & Kumaresh, Aruna Sairam and many many many more....
favorite ragams: kamboji, kaanada, ataana, kalyani, kadanakutuhalam, kuntalavarali, varali, sahana, neelambari, shankarabharanam, naatai n many more....
musical interests: just tooooooo many!!!
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Vinay
- Posts: 34
- Joined: 16 Apr 2009, 16:06
I'm from Kerala, but in Bangalore at the moment (for some exams, and maybe I'll continue here if I manage to get into a university here).
My favourite singer/composer is Balamuralikrishna. I was just thinking a few hours earlier how unmatched he is. In bhava, laya, gyana - wow! I have yet to see another carnatic singer who has perfected all these. Yes of course, perfection is an ongoing process but there is no singer I can listen to without feeling a lack of one or more of these (or other) qualities - especially bhava. It's a sad fact that many (most?) carnatic singers don't implement voice control to add and enhance bhava. Is this carnatic music supposed to be exempt from the need for this element. In this, pop musicians score over classical musicians - most of them anyway. If only more singers paid attention to this element.
After Balamurali, I suppose there's his disciple, Sharat - although I've only been to two of his concerts. He sings almost exactly like Balamurali. Even his voice is too alike. I can hear your objections here - Why would you want to listen to this copycat singer then, why not just listen to recordings of Balamurali? Fact is... I do listen to recordings of Balamurali! : D
So yeah, listening to Sharat is like listening to a recording, you could say. But it's also a fact that each time Balamurali sings the same krithi, it's considerably different from all the other times he has sung it. And listening to Sharat then is like listening to yet another version. That's not all. Sharat does add stylistic variations of his own. So considering all this, I would like to attend more of Sharat's concerts. Especially as Balamurali's are so scarce these days.
Then there's T.M. Krishna and Bombay Jayashree. Both very good. And hm... maybe MDR, but I've just started listening.
Note on Yesudas (since I'm from Kerala): Amazing playback singer. Unequalled in Kerala. If you listen to his movie songs, you'll think he's the master of bhava and laya. And the few Hindustani style semiclassical songs he's sung (in movies again) - ah, what divine music. An utter failure when it comes to carnatic though. Sadly.
And of course, in hindustani, Jasraj is my favourite. Far from perfect though. Somehow he doesn't seem to be able to handle all sorts of songs equally well. And Rajan and Sajan Mishra. They, too, can't do everything equally well (they're good at what Jasraj is bad at). But when it comes to, say Bhairavi, they're amazing. In fact, it's with their Bhairavi that I really became a classical music lover (and almost an equal amount of thanks goes to sriraga notes that my friend sung while sitting next to me in class. It caught my attention and I immediately wanted to know more about it. That started it all).
My favourite ragas would be... (Pure) Bhairavi (Hindustani! (No Sindhubhairavi doesn't quite do it - almost, but not quite)). And in carnatic, none. Used to be sriraga for a while, merely because that's the first one I heard and noted and learnt as being a raga. Endaro Mahanubavulu was my favourite composition in carnatic for a long time. It still almost is. (Oh, the particular version is the one in Balamurali's "Pancharatna Krithis" album).
I went for violin classes for about a year and a half right after I became a classical music lover. I mostly only wanted to gain knowledge of music theory, and to be able to sight-read and transcribe. This happened quite soon and I had to stop violin classes anyway. I still play whenever I can. (Not well at all though, hehe). I've also messed around with a guitar for a while (as long as it lasted - it was quite old and somewhat damaged). And now I have a hindustani flute that I've been trying to get a grip on for a few months. The swarasthanas were easy, but actually playing it at a practical speed seems to be impossible for me.
And now, I'm still learning, mainly through the internet and books. This is a very slow process though, as there isn't much information to be found on the internet - if it's there, it's not easily discoverable, at least. It has somewhat accelerated since I found this website. I wonder why I never came upon it before. Since coming here I've found a few places with good write-ups on various topics in Indian classical music. Still, compared to the amount of information available on Western music, it's pitiful. This goes for information on anything else Indian compared to anything Western.
Right now I'm wrestling with tala. I remember my initial struggle to master the swarasthanas. That was quite easy though. This is taking longer. My talabodha was never very good. I've noticeably improved from my initial state of complete unawareness of tala though. And perhaps it's also because there's very little variation in tala when compared to that in raga (or swaras (combinations, etc.)).
And that is one thing that brought me here. Once I'm done reading everything I can find here and elsewhere on tala, I'll start with my own questions. : D
Apologies for the über-long post. >.<
My favourite singer/composer is Balamuralikrishna. I was just thinking a few hours earlier how unmatched he is. In bhava, laya, gyana - wow! I have yet to see another carnatic singer who has perfected all these. Yes of course, perfection is an ongoing process but there is no singer I can listen to without feeling a lack of one or more of these (or other) qualities - especially bhava. It's a sad fact that many (most?) carnatic singers don't implement voice control to add and enhance bhava. Is this carnatic music supposed to be exempt from the need for this element. In this, pop musicians score over classical musicians - most of them anyway. If only more singers paid attention to this element.
After Balamurali, I suppose there's his disciple, Sharat - although I've only been to two of his concerts. He sings almost exactly like Balamurali. Even his voice is too alike. I can hear your objections here - Why would you want to listen to this copycat singer then, why not just listen to recordings of Balamurali? Fact is... I do listen to recordings of Balamurali! : D
So yeah, listening to Sharat is like listening to a recording, you could say. But it's also a fact that each time Balamurali sings the same krithi, it's considerably different from all the other times he has sung it. And listening to Sharat then is like listening to yet another version. That's not all. Sharat does add stylistic variations of his own. So considering all this, I would like to attend more of Sharat's concerts. Especially as Balamurali's are so scarce these days.
Then there's T.M. Krishna and Bombay Jayashree. Both very good. And hm... maybe MDR, but I've just started listening.
Note on Yesudas (since I'm from Kerala): Amazing playback singer. Unequalled in Kerala. If you listen to his movie songs, you'll think he's the master of bhava and laya. And the few Hindustani style semiclassical songs he's sung (in movies again) - ah, what divine music. An utter failure when it comes to carnatic though. Sadly.
And of course, in hindustani, Jasraj is my favourite. Far from perfect though. Somehow he doesn't seem to be able to handle all sorts of songs equally well. And Rajan and Sajan Mishra. They, too, can't do everything equally well (they're good at what Jasraj is bad at). But when it comes to, say Bhairavi, they're amazing. In fact, it's with their Bhairavi that I really became a classical music lover (and almost an equal amount of thanks goes to sriraga notes that my friend sung while sitting next to me in class. It caught my attention and I immediately wanted to know more about it. That started it all).
My favourite ragas would be... (Pure) Bhairavi (Hindustani! (No Sindhubhairavi doesn't quite do it - almost, but not quite)). And in carnatic, none. Used to be sriraga for a while, merely because that's the first one I heard and noted and learnt as being a raga. Endaro Mahanubavulu was my favourite composition in carnatic for a long time. It still almost is. (Oh, the particular version is the one in Balamurali's "Pancharatna Krithis" album).
I went for violin classes for about a year and a half right after I became a classical music lover. I mostly only wanted to gain knowledge of music theory, and to be able to sight-read and transcribe. This happened quite soon and I had to stop violin classes anyway. I still play whenever I can. (Not well at all though, hehe). I've also messed around with a guitar for a while (as long as it lasted - it was quite old and somewhat damaged). And now I have a hindustani flute that I've been trying to get a grip on for a few months. The swarasthanas were easy, but actually playing it at a practical speed seems to be impossible for me.
And now, I'm still learning, mainly through the internet and books. This is a very slow process though, as there isn't much information to be found on the internet - if it's there, it's not easily discoverable, at least. It has somewhat accelerated since I found this website. I wonder why I never came upon it before. Since coming here I've found a few places with good write-ups on various topics in Indian classical music. Still, compared to the amount of information available on Western music, it's pitiful. This goes for information on anything else Indian compared to anything Western.
Right now I'm wrestling with tala. I remember my initial struggle to master the swarasthanas. That was quite easy though. This is taking longer. My talabodha was never very good. I've noticeably improved from my initial state of complete unawareness of tala though. And perhaps it's also because there's very little variation in tala when compared to that in raga (or swaras (combinations, etc.)).
And that is one thing that brought me here. Once I'm done reading everything I can find here and elsewhere on tala, I'll start with my own questions. : D
Apologies for the über-long post. >.<
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vasanthakokilam
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Vinay
- Posts: 34
- Joined: 16 Apr 2009, 16:06
Thank you, Raman and vasanthakokilam. : )
Hm... well bhairavi (carnatic) does happen to be the first raga I listened to from the first cassette I ever bought
Balamurali, of course. It had Viriboni and Upacharamu. And it also had two panthuvarali krithis - Ninne Nera Nammi and Raghuvara.
As much as I like the bhairavi in carnatic, there are many ragas I like equally or more. Let's just say for now, that sindhubhairavi gives me thrills every time I hear it. Especially when it's made apparent right away in one or two seconds.
But still, it's hard to pick out any one or even a few ragas.
Endaro mahanuragulu, andariki vandnamulu! : D
(That's probably wrong but hope it's at least amusing in that case).
Hm... well bhairavi (carnatic) does happen to be the first raga I listened to from the first cassette I ever bought
Balamurali, of course. It had Viriboni and Upacharamu. And it also had two panthuvarali krithis - Ninne Nera Nammi and Raghuvara.
As much as I like the bhairavi in carnatic, there are many ragas I like equally or more. Let's just say for now, that sindhubhairavi gives me thrills every time I hear it. Especially when it's made apparent right away in one or two seconds.
But still, it's hard to pick out any one or even a few ragas.
Endaro mahanuragulu, andariki vandnamulu! : D
(That's probably wrong but hope it's at least amusing in that case).
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arasi
- Posts: 16877
- Joined: 22 Jun 2006, 09:30
Re: Introductions
Mohan,
This thread you started is fascinating to read! It spans three years of RasikAs intros and asides too.
You were not in Chennai for the season this year I think, otherwise we would have met.
r-t ,
I guess you are back in your cold weather zone. Not very nice of you though that you did not choose to meet fellow-rasikAs. (or did you, a few among us?) .incognito doesen't count ;( I am still trying to find you in the photographs.
This thread you started is fascinating to read! It spans three years of RasikAs intros and asides too.
You were not in Chennai for the season this year I think, otherwise we would have met.
r-t ,
I guess you are back in your cold weather zone. Not very nice of you though that you did not choose to meet fellow-rasikAs. (or did you, a few among us?) .incognito doesen't count ;( I am still trying to find you in the photographs.
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mohan
- Posts: 2808
- Joined: 03 Feb 2010, 16:52
Re: Introductions
No I wasn't in Chennai this last season - was in the US during Nov/December though! Will try and make it to Chennai for the next season!arasi wrote:Mohan,
You were not in Chennai for the season this year I think, otherwise we would have met.
Yes there are some interesting details in this thread!
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ragam-talam
- Posts: 1896
- Joined: 28 Sep 2006, 02:15
Re: Introductions
Arasi, with gumshoes like PB around, the cover may come off any time!
Happy new year to you!
Happy new year to you!
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smala
- Posts: 3223
- Joined: 03 Feb 2010, 00:55
Re: Introductions
already on the track...some favorites KVN, DKJ, DKP....likes to stay at W...near Music Academy...
Some clues in The Tryanny of Sahityam, D.K. Pattamal, Balaji Shankar...others...
Dover cliffs and Big Ben?
*never* online like some janata here, one popular avatar used in this thread...(rasikas allows hidden posters)
some aliases : anonymityatlast, kalyani ragam - possibly... ram_tm (nada posts, so a nauttykurinji type peeker)... two other handles - well known...
Some clues in The Tryanny of Sahityam, D.K. Pattamal, Balaji Shankar...others...
Dover cliffs and Big Ben?
*never* online like some janata here, one popular avatar used in this thread...(rasikas allows hidden posters)
some aliases : anonymityatlast, kalyani ragam - possibly... ram_tm (nada posts, so a nauttykurinji type peeker)... two other handles - well known...
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arasi
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- Joined: 22 Jun 2006, 09:30
Re: Introductions
Thanks for the wishes, r-t which I warmly reciprocate 
Wish I had the intelligence and diligence shyamapriya has in finding clues.
One question: does MA canteen entrance area and the name Jagannathan and the title of this thread together mean anything? An yes or no will do!
Wish I had the intelligence and diligence shyamapriya has in finding clues.One question: does MA canteen entrance area and the name Jagannathan and the title of this thread together mean anything? An yes or no will do!
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Pratyaksham Bala
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Re: Introductions
Happy New Year to you!ragam-talam wrote:Arasi, with gumshoes like PB around, the cover may come off any time!
Happy new year to you!
Hey! nArAyanA, nArAyanA!
Smart attempt to keep me busy!
Ok. From where should I start? From Pittsburgh days?
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smala
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- Joined: 03 Feb 2010, 00:55
Re: Introductions
yes - to Toronto then Down Under..and then.... sigh ! Thought my discreet clues would do but let's go for the jugular...but then I didn't get to the meet like PB...Hey! nArAyanA, nArAyanA!
Smart attempt to keep me busy!
Ok. From where should I start? From Pittsburgh days?
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Ananth
- Posts: 133
- Joined: 14 Feb 2006, 14:04
Re: Introductions
I would just say Umayalpuram! More respectful and unambiguous!
Similarly, Lalgudi, Palani..
If the artist hasn't yet acquired a tag like that yet, well simply refer him by name.. Sanjay would not mind I guess
Similarly, Lalgudi, Palani..
If the artist hasn't yet acquired a tag like that yet, well simply refer him by name.. Sanjay would not mind I guess