Subhapanthuvarali

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meena
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Post by meena »

Hi Mrinalini

glad to see an old timer bboard mem. here :)
Welcome to the forum!

DrMrinalini
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Post by DrMrinalini »

Hi Meena! Nice seeing you all after so long
To continue my favourite raga Shubhapantuvarali- the 2 kirtanas (Manonmani & paripahi) represent joyous versions of the raga (acc. to me) & that has nothing really to do with the madhyama kAla alone but rather the scintillating sangathis.

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drshrikaanth
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Post by drshrikaanth »

Welcome Mrinalini. Really good to have you here.
Coming to the song "paripAhimA" of MV in SubhapantuvarALi, that sounds heavy and sad to me. Interesting you find it joyous.

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Post by Radhakrishnan »

Though it is a madhayama kAla composition,it sounds heavy especially with the heavy voice of Pasupathi sir.
This rAga always reminds me of a MalayAlam movie poKuveyil directed by late G.Aravindan ,who chose this rAga(or the Hindusthani version of it)for the background music,played by Pt.Hariprasad Chaurasia and Rajeev Taranath.They explored this rAga and the pathos nature of it suited the theme of the movie.In fact music was recorded first and visuals were taken according to music.

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Post by drshrikaanth »

I have heard paripAhimAm in the voices of S.Sankar, R.K.Srikantan and a few others who I cannot recall offhand

ramakriya
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Post by ramakriya »

This may have been discussed before. If so, could some one provide a link?


Why does MSG play varALi kRuti mAmamva mInAkShi in shubhapantuvarALi ? AFAIK, there is a controvery
about some Tyagaraja kritis in mELa 45 being sung in mELa 51 and some of those kritis having two versions;
But I do not know if such a thing exists with MD's kritis. More so when he specifically has included the rAgamudre as sivapantuvarALi and varALi in the kritis.

-Ramakriya

DrMrinalini
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Post by DrMrinalini »

The standard example of the Shubhapantuvarali/Varali problem is that of Tyagaraja's 'Ne pogada kunte'-while I've heard many sing it in Varali, Dr.BMK's version is in Shubhapantuvarali.
Also 'Ennallu' is cited in 'The Spiritual Heritage of Tyagaraja' (written by C.Ramanujacharya) as set to raga Pantuvarali. The same book gives the raga of 'Ne pogada kunte'as Des'ya Todi (of course Todi That in Hindusthani is our Shubhapantuvarali, though Des'ya Todi is different-sounding more like a upanga sindhu bhairavi).

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Post by DrMrinalini »

Adding to the ShubhapantuvaraLi list-'VElanE Vere gathi' of Kotiswara Iyer in Misra chapu is simply divine! have Sri.S.Rajam's rendition of the same!

kaumaaram
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Post by kaumaaram »

http://www.musicalnirvana.com/script/music_samples.aspx

The entire 72 melakarta kritis of Koteeswara Iyer can be listened to from the above site. [Under the search column, type S Rajam].
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ramchari
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Post by ramchari »

Moderator,

As far as I know this is not a commercial recording.You are free to delete this link if you beleive it is commercial.
Srisathyanarayanam by MMI.

http://rapidshare.de/files/32813704/MMI ... M.wav.html

gavati
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Post by gavati »

kiransurya wrote:Mahesh!!!!

A nice rendition of Sri Satyanaarayanam by TNS. Amazing panthuvarali for solid one hour(A slokam and raagamalika swarams and a sruthibedham in neraval)
http://rapidshare.de/files/24596587/Sri ... m.mp3.html

enjoy
Hi.. I am new to this forum...would like to listen to TNS's Sri Satyanarayanam..the above link doesn't seem to work...can someone please repost this and also SK's? ...thanks a lot

sasa110
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Post by sasa110 »

hi could someone explain the difference between shubapantuvarali and pantuvarali? thanks

vijay
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Post by vijay »

Hi Sasa110 - Gandharams are different - G3 in Pantuvarali and G2 in Subha Pantuvarali

Ashwin
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Post by Ashwin »

sasa110 wrote:hi could someone explain the difference between shubapantuvarali and pantuvarali? thanks
Some nice information:

http://www.chennaionline.com/musicnew/C ... /300th.asp

Ashwin

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Post by Ragjay »

Hi I have heard a recording of Ariakudi with TNk and PMI He sings a wonderful brief alapana of Subhapanthuvarali as a prelude to Sri Satyanarayana Upasmahe. The violin version was also outstanding The rendition of swaras along with the special playing of the mirdangam make listening celestial. I think that is the most profound Subhapanthuvarali available in recorded format. BFN Raghavan

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Post by kmrasika »

Vidya Raja: If you just want to listen to a rendition of the kriti, it is available on the dedicated section to dIkshitar on sangeethapriya: http://www.sangeethamshare.org/dikshith ... ithis.html . It is item #272 rendered by ShaShikiraN (younger brother of ravikiraN).
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Post by mnsriram »

paSupatISvaram by Sowmya

http://file.uploadr.com/10a70

devi
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Post by devi »

Pashupatheeshwaram by Prince Rama Varma

Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ9dRLZQjkQ
Pat 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib1zsdAx0ss

Enjoy!

ANAND
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Post by ANAND »

Vidya Raja wrote:Thanks Devi, i did listen to Prince Rama Varma, again each one has their unique style of rendering and also the pace of the song is different in each case, interesting
Dear Vidya

The song by GNB .. Nee samana .. in Subhapantuvarali ... si simply excellent .. Specially there is a lot of scope for neraval and kalpana swara in Anupallavi ...

This raaga can be elaborated to great height ... even the Hindustani elaboration ( known as Thodi ) gives this raaga a deeper meaning ..


Great RAAGA in deed

B. Anand

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Post by devi »

Vidya Raja wrote:Thanks Devi, i did listen to Prince Rama Varma, again each one has their unique style of rendering and also the pace of the song is different in each case, interesting
My Pleassure Vidya

kmrasika
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Post by kmrasika »

Vidya Raja wrote:Thank you for the information. i have heard Nee samana evaru lera nee sung by Bombay jayasree, is the song you have mentioned same as this one? nice song indeed.
It is indeed and listen to a rendition by GNB's disciple ShrI kalyANarAman(Item#4): http://www.sangeethapriya.org/Downloads ... fac83.html

babaji
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Post by babaji »

appa finally is it a G.N.B composition.i always wanted to know who composed nee samana.i thought it was dikshitar.
the charanam especially baasamana,simply poetic rendition in SP.

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Post by gobilalitha »

there is also raaga bhavani closely resembling suba patuvarali. there are only 1 or 2 kritis in bhavani. it will be very much appreciated if any member explains bhavani posting a song in it . sbp is a raaga expressing a distress ful mood according to ALL INDIA RADIO, When some top leader kicks the bucket, notes or strains of shenai or sarngi will be played, cancelling all programmes for not less than 3 days gobilalitha

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Post by vageyakara »

HalloGBL(balu)
SUBHAPANTUVARAALI is a MeLaraagam(45)
SA RI(SUDHA)GA MA PA DA NI(KAKALI)SA:Sa ni da pa ma ga ri sa
Whereas Bhavani is a derivative of (44)Bhavapriya with the following swaras:-
SA RI GA MA DA NI(KAISIKI) SA:SA NI DA MA GA RI SA
dUE TO THE FACT that both SBP and Bhavani have the same poorvangam(aroh)upto pratimadyamam there is a tendency to look like SBP where Bhavani has kaisiki nishAdam which alone serves to be able to identify Bhavani.
In Bhavani I used to hear a kriti "Kanikarammu tO kAvavEBhavani"sung by Madurai G.S.Mani and Tanj.S.KalyaNarAman .I am not aware of the name of the composer.
It is also ironical a Ragam having "SUBHA' in its name has conventionally become a raga depicting pathos mood.In days of yore it also used to be known as shivapantuvarALi.
Ramaraj
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Lakshman
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Post by Lakshman »

kanikaramutO kAvavE bhavAni is by Kalyani Varadarajan.

vageyakara
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Post by vageyakara »

Thank u lakshmanji
Ramaraj

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Post by gobilalitha »

ramaraj, thecomposer ofthe song as stated by our sri lakshman is kalyani varadarajan, from chromepet , about whom I spoke to you over phone. she herself taught that song to bhuvana. In today's hindu metroplus bangalore, there is an article about MLV, in anniversary on 31/10 (I omit the word death, because her voice lives with us daily)it is stated that she used to sing unniandrii in raagabhavani. A very interesting article aboutMLV. Do youremember the song unnaiyandri ? in which casstteor cd it is availble? lakshman to come to our rescue gobilalitha

Naada Priya
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Post by Naada Priya »

Is the hindustani thodi, the equivalent raga for SPV. if not, please let me know the difference.... TY..

vageyakara
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Post by vageyakara »

Hi ((GBL) Balu, Thank u
Mrs.Kalyani varadarajan's kriti in the dwijawanti ragam "Bayo Rasi bAlE"used to be sung by Prof.TRS.
MLV is a legend of the 20th century , still lives through her resonant voice and her crafty handling of all aspects of CM .
Ramaraj

vageyakara
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Post by vageyakara »

Hallo Nada priya,
You r correct. In Hind.tODi occasional panchama varjam in the aroh. takes place.Other wise the scaler equivalent is our SPV only
Ramaraj
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Lakshman
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Post by Lakshman »

gobilalitha wrote:
Do youremember the song unnaiyandri ? in which casstte or cd it is availble?
Dandapani Desikar - Gitaa GCT 509/510
S.Gayathri - Inreco 2771 - C -530
Suguna Varadachari - Music Dept. Madras University cassette

Naada Priya
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Post by Naada Priya »

Thank you for the info..

ANAND
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Post by ANAND »

yES vIDYA

but this should be sung with lot of depth , as it is a very very emitional and a touching raaga , and the the pharses without the swara PA , makes the raaga even more elevating . A Male voice with a strong base voice will be the best for presenting this song .

And GNB rendering this song , is very elevating .

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Post by Anusha »

I am looking for a recording of Mysore Vasudevacharya's krithi- paripAhimAm shrI dAsharathE. Would anyone be able to upload this?

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