Jayachamaraja Odeyar (Mysore Maharajah) - Part II

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 11 Mar 2006, 00:08

Thats cool badri. No wonder I got the messageto that effect when I uploaded.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 11 Mar 2006, 00:19

Thanks Badri for piching in!
Wish you success in your current endeavours!

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 11 Mar 2006, 00:31

This is a version of hamsavinOdinI by Smt MSS:
http://rapidshare.de/files/15171709/02_ ... i.m4a.html
Ravi

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 11 Mar 2006, 01:17

hamsavinOdni is a rAga brought to usage by oDeyar, as CML has pointed.
It is a pancamavarjya, ubhaya krama ShADava upAnga janya of dhIra SankarAbharaNa, the 29h mELa. Its scale is

SR2G3M1D2N3S* | S* NDMGRS ||

G is jIva and nyAsa. N is samvAdi to G and an important swara. RShabha is crucial in differentiating the rAga from shades of vasanta. Madhyama is also used as nyAsa.

The rAga is pleasing and brightens mood. It has some bhakti and hAsya. MAinly a gAnarasapradhAna rAga. Allied rAgas are kannaDa and mAND. And vasanta will creep in if one avoids R for long. (IMHO BMK is guilty of this as he continues to traverse from G to S* only initially.). Also phrases such as "SMGM," are best avoided to keep vasanta at bay.
Also phrases such as "SMGM," are best avoided to keep vasanta at bay.

oDeyar has brought out the essence of the rAga beautifully without giving any room for suspecting vasanta. He has also nicely woven the rAga mudre into the sAhitya.

Here is a kRti in the rAga from MIL.

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/5Jf ... As1NMvHdW/

Lakshman. Can you tell us the composer?

meena · Post by **meena** » 11 Mar 2006, 01:54

am taking a break on this cold sat. morning!

drshrikaanth wrote:
Lakshman. Can you tell us the composer?

DRS

we discussed abt this on bboard, and i recall i provided the composer info to Lji
Composer: Hari Sundareswara Sarma

and u will find the composers info @ http://www.swathithirunal.org/composeres/harisunder.htm

here is the text for those interested:

kumAram bhajEham. rAgA: hamsavinOdini. rUpaka tALA.

P: kumAram bhajEham shUla padma tArakAlakam
A: umA mahIshvara sutam dEva sEnApatim shrI
C: shaktyAyudha dharam kArtikEyam amarasEnAdi
bhakta janAnandakaram shrI harihara vanditam

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 11 Mar 2006, 02:36

Thanks DRS/meena for the lyric

This is indeed a scintilating raga. I could feel strongly the influence of maaND rather than vasanta!

here is a question! As a pancama varjya raga from shankarabharanam it is deceptively simple! Again no special gamakams are evident (almost a scalar raga). Then how could T who composed the maximum kritis in shankarabharnam have missed it? Just your thoughts as is relevant here! We can pursue the discussion more elaborately at the 'what is a raga' thread!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 11 Mar 2006, 02:54

CML
There does not have to be any particular reason for T not composing in the rAga. Perhaps he did not get the mood/lahari. There are so many other popular/ancient rAgas that T has not composed in(as also MD). Or it could be that he did not think it sufficiently distinct from kannaDa. Also this is not an ancient rAga. I do not know which treatises actually mention the rAga. This does not feature in R.R.Keshavamurthy`s book.

While we are at it, another similar rAga is Suddhavasanta (MD's sOmasundarESvaram).

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 11 Mar 2006, 03:11

Here it is:
http://rapidshare.de/files/15183340/Som ... s.mp3.html

Ageed it is sounding close! Again a janya of dheerashankarabharanam.
Its Aro: SRGMPNS
Avaro: SDNPMGRS
Am I right?
Could you outline the characteristics briefly!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 11 Mar 2006, 03:19

CML
Lets leave out Suddhavasanta here. The rAga cannot be captured in a scale. There are numerous viSESha prayOgas.

kiransurya · Post by **kiransurya** » 11 Mar 2006, 04:08

CML/DRS
Correct me if Iam wrong. Isnt the moorchana of Sudda Vasantha

Aro: SRGMPDNS
Avo:SNDPMRGS

However, it has got quite noticable MGR prayogas too

Plz Clarify..

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 11 Mar 2006, 07:53

Kiran

Honestly I don't know! I copied from my book! But as DRS suggests let us reserve it for the raga thread!

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 11 Mar 2006, 08:25

CML,
That was Vijay Siva singing sOmasundarEswaram, right?
Ravi

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 11 Mar 2006, 08:26

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 11 Mar 2006, 12:09

http://rapidshare.de/files/15209227/07- ... ALLAVI.MP3

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 11 Mar 2006, 20:59

Meena
Thanks for the clarification

Coolkarni
That was a nice swarAkShara pallavi.

nI garima gani sadA dari cEriti |

There is no need to show akSharakAlas as the pallavi just snugly fits the Adi tALa (sama eDupu).

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 11 Mar 2006, 21:28

Next kRti:- vandEham SivE in kathanakutUhala, caturaSra maThya tALa

http://rapidshare.de/files/14597716/vaM ... E.mp3.html

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 11 Mar 2006, 21:36

mAtu of || vandEham SivE||

rAga: kathanakutUhala ; caturaSramaThya tALa

vandEham SivE bRhadAnandE |
vandita suravRndE lAlitaskandE ||P||

SrIdhara sahajAtE karuNArasa bharitE |
vEdanuta sucaritE sadASivasahitE ||
sadAbhaktajana pOShaNAsaktE purANa kathana kutUhalayutE girirAjasutE ||

SASvata kaivalya pradAna vikhyAtE |
SrIvidyA tOShitE paramAdvaitayutE |
aSvagaja padAti samyuta sainyasahitE |
atrivasiShThAdi mahAmunipUjitE ||
aSvattha pippala bilva tuLasIvana vAsasthE anAdi viSva cakra madhyasthE ||C||

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 12 Mar 2006, 01:03

Notes on || vandEham SivE||

rAga: kathanakutUhala ; caturaSramaThya tALa

vandEham SivE- I bow to SivE(pArvati);
bRhadAnandE- Her With great happiness;
vandita suravRndE- Her Who is saluted by the multitude of dEvas; l
lAlita skandE- Her Who has nurtured kArtikEya.

SrIdhara sahajAtE- Sister of ViShNu;
karuNArasa bharitE- Her Who is filled with compassion;
vEdanuta sucaritE- Her With a nature and greatness praised by the vEdas;
sadASivasahitE- Consort of sadASiva;
sadA bhaktajana pOShaNa AsaktE- Her Who is always keen on nurturing and caring for her devotees;
purANa kathana kutUhalayutE- Her Who is deeply interested in hearing the recitation of purANas and the stories within;
girirAjasutE- Daughter of the king of mountains.

SASvata kaivalya pradAna vikhyAtE- er Who is renowned for granting eternal salvation;
SrIvidyA tOShitE- Her Who is made happy by SrIvidyA; paramAdvaitayutE- Her Who is filled with the great advaita principle;
aSva gaja padAti samyuta sainyasahitE- Her with a caturanga bala armed force consisting of infantry, cavalry, foot soldiers and chariots;
atri vasiShTha Adi mahAmuni pUjitE- Her Who is worshipped by the great sages such as atri and vasiShTha;
aSvattha pippala bilva tuLasIvana vAsasthE- Her abiding in the forest/garden filled with the trees/plants of the holy fig(araLi, arasam), pippala(peepal kA pED), bilva and tuLasi;
anAdi viSva cakra madhyasthE- Her situatied in the centre of the beginningless wheel/cycle of the universe(creatin and destruction)

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 12 Mar 2006, 01:06

Sivaraman
Edit your post please. If you are not aware how to do it, mention it here and srkris could do it for you.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 12 Mar 2006, 01:47

Though both are called fig trees belonging to the 'ficus' family there are different varieties. The Indian fig (ashvttha/arasu) is a much sturdy tree compared to those in northern climates(peepul). We need a botanist to distinguish them!

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 12 Mar 2006, 02:37

Is the singer M. S. Sheela?
Ravi

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 12 Mar 2006, 03:35

The vocalist is Vid|| Sukanya Prabhakar.

CML
pIpal in hindi is te same as araLi/arasam/aSvattha. And dictionaries give both their botanical names as Ficus religiosa, hence my question.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 12 Mar 2006, 04:24

kathanakutUhala is a vakra sampUrNa-krama sampUrNa upAnga janya of dhIra SankarAbharaNa, the 29th mELa. Its scale is

SR2M1D2N3G3PS* | S*NDPMGRS ||

Patnam Subramanya iyer is credited with discovering/inventing this rAga. It is said that he was inspired by the rAga kutUhala which was a find of his guru mAnambucAvaDi VenkaTasubbaiyar.

This rAga is nowadays erroneously called by many as kadanakutUhala
(perhaps stemming from it being written in tamizh script). oDeyar has retained the correct name and beautifully and adroitly woven it into the sAhitya. The rAga has an unmistakable wester lilt to it and is well suited for playing by bands and reminds of military marches (another mental imagery that strengthens the name of kadanakutUhala!!!).

The rAga, although a tukkaDa rAga, will remain popular in concert circuits by dint of enlivening the spirit by its intrisnic melody. It cannnot be expanded at length (except by boring repetiotn of phrases). There are several compositions in the rAga. oDeyar`s kRti is the one set to the longest tAla(maThya) without making the tempo or melody sag or slow down. BMK`s tillAna in the rAga is very nice.

Can we have pieces other than raghuvamSa here?

As for kutUhala, there are 2 pieces in it- Avaraku mentioned above, and mAti mATiki of tiruvoTRiyUr tyAgayyar. Doe we have recordings of these?

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 12 Mar 2006, 06:22

Ravikiran`s kRti in kathanakutUhala

http://rapidshare.de/files/15277548/vin ... m.mp3.html

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 12 Mar 2006, 07:24

I am positive that I had downloaded a rendering of kutUhala(Avarkula) from sangeetham or xdrive. It is most likey by BMK(99.9%)This rAga was also briefly brought up on sangeetham while discusiing kathakutUhala. I have searched high and low in vain. perhaps i lost it in one of the several system crashes that befell me. Does anybody else have it?

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 12 Mar 2006, 07:49

There is an interesting HMB composition which I am sure TNS has rendered.

Kartik/any others
Do you have it?

meena · Post by **meena** » 12 Mar 2006, 08:20

drshrikaanth wrote:

BMK`s tillAna in the rAga is very nice.

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Thanks to Lji for the clip

(hope i've u/l the right one, if not pl. let me know)

abadri · Post by **abadri** » 12 Mar 2006, 10:39

DRS, here's BMK's rendition of Kuthuhalam
[rapidshare link removed]

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 12 Mar 2006, 11:28

DRS
The following is the info on kuthUhalam
Aroganam : S R2 M1 N3 D2 P N3 S
Avaroganam : S N3 D2 P M1 G3 R2 S
from
http://www.employees.org/~edwin/music/m ... AGA&id=338

Looks quite weird! Have you any more info?

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 13 Mar 2006, 09:22

Thanks Badri
You ar verily the SritakalpavRkSha.

CML
ALl online sources I have come across give the wrong ArOhaNa and avarOhaNa for kutUhala. They also place it under the wrong mELa.
If you thought the sacle you gave as weird, look at the correct mUrchane!

SD2PR2M1N2S* | S*NDPMGRS ||

It is a janya of the 28th mELa harikEdAragauLa/harikAmbOdhi.
It has such jumps inbuilt in its structure and yet mAnambucAvaDi VenkaTasubbayyar has created a melodious and "singable" song. He has very skilfully used the scale to create the melody. In places, it sounds like kApinArAyaNi. BMK`s rendering is, as expected, classic. Thanks again Badri.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 13 Mar 2006, 10:00

http://rapidshare.de/files/15370198/190 ... uhalam.mp3

cmlover..TNS rendering..is it giripriyam.then i have it.can upload tomorrow.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 13 Mar 2006, 10:11

MV`s nIkEla daya in M.S.Sheela`s lilting voice

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/gqO ... As1NMvHdW/

MV`s varNa by gAyatri

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/OUf ... As1NMvHdW/

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 13 Mar 2006, 10:13

http://rapidshare.de/files/15370917/kad ... oohala.mp3

from gs manis lectures.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 13 Mar 2006, 10:42

http://rapidshare.de/files/15371804/Moh ... araman.mp3

http://rapidshare.de/files/15371928/man ... dayaki.mp3
By Trichur Ramchandran

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 13 Mar 2006, 11:00

MV`s nIkEla daya in M.S.Sheela`s lilting voice

http://www.musicindiaonline.com/p/x/gqO ... As1NMvHdW/

I listen to M.S.Sheela's nIkEla quite often. Very nicely sung. I did not know that it was MV's. Thanks.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 13 Mar 2006, 11:47

Thanks DRS for the info on kuthUhala. There is an anecdote that his sishyas were struggling to negotiate from shadjam to dhaivatam and he apparently remarked that all the nice ragas have already been taken over by Thyagarja and only the dregs were left over!

coolkarni

yes indeed it is HMB's Giripriyam and by TNS would indeed be a treat!

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 13 Mar 2006, 12:34

all the nice ragas have already been taken over by Thyagarja and only the dregs were left over!

LOL

abadri · Post by **abadri** » 13 Mar 2006, 12:37

yes indeed it is HMB's Giripriyam and by TNS would indeed be a treat!

[rapidshare link removed]

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 13 Mar 2006, 12:43

Thanks Badri!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 14 Mar 2006, 02:37

After that flood of lovely kathanakutUhala tracks, its time to move on.

kRti in jaganmOhini, miSrajhampe tALa- jaganmOhinIm

From the AIR series- sung by Sukanya prabhakar and R.N.Srilata

http://rapidshare.de/files/15426292/Jag ... m.mp3.html

And a bonus, thanks to Meena(Ultimately to RC I guess)- rendered by Nagavalli Nagaraj

http://rapidshare.de/files/14361324/10J ... i.mp3.html

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 14 Mar 2006, 02:48

mATu of || jaganmOhinIm haramOhinIm||

rAga: jaganmOhini ; miSrajhampe tALa

jaganmOhinIm haramOhinIm vandE |
SrI rAjarAjESvarIm rAjayOginIm ||P||

yOga paTTAbhirAmAm mahAmAyAm |
catuHShaShThikOTiyOgInI gaNavanditAm chidagni kuNDa sambhUtAm SubhacritAm ||AP||

jagajjananIm SrIkAminIm manOnmanIm |
cintAmaNi nilayAm saubhAgya sAgarAm |
naganandinIm mahAkALIm cinmayIm |
mandasmitavadanAm sura manOllAsinIm ||
nAgalingapriyAm mahAmAtangIm simhAsanAdhISvarArcitAm |
SrIvidyAcitprabhAnanda rAjayOgIndra vanditAm kRpAkaTAkSha sahitAm ||

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 14 Mar 2006, 03:14

Thanks Meena/RC for sharing that melodious Jaganmohini with us, an auDava/ShADava raga that T invented to glorigy the saptasvara sangIta dEvatA!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 14 Mar 2006, 06:24

Notes on || jaganmOhinIm haramOhinIm||

rAga: jaganmOhini ; miSrajhampe tALa

jaganmOhinIm haramOhinIm vandE- I bow to the enchantress of the whole universe, Her Who has enchanted ISvara;
SrI rAjarAjESvarIm; rAjayOginIm;

yOga paTTAbhirAmAm;
I have explained this in my notes on saurAShTra kRti.

mahAmAyAm- the great illusion that befuddles everything;
catuHShaShThikOTiyOgInI gaNavanditAm- Her woshipped by the 64 crore yOginis; chidagni kuNDa sambhUtAm;
Both the above are names occurring in the sahasranAma

SubhacritAm- Her with a pleasant and auspicious disposition;

jagajjananIm- Mother of the universe;
SrIkAminIm- Her Who is attracted by SrI(vidyA or the bIjAkShara SrIm);
manOnmanIm;(Explained before)

cintAmaNi nilayAm- Her Who resides in the house made of cintAmaNi;
saubhAgya sAgarAm- The ocean of good fortune and prosperity;
naganandinIm- Daughter of the mountain; mahAkALIm;
cinmayIm- Her Who is filled with cit (knowledge/j~nAna);
mandasmitavadanAm- Her with a face bearing a gentle smile;
sura manOllAsinIm- Her Who brings ecstasy to the minds of the dEvas;
nAgalingapriyAm- Her Who is affectionate towards Siva(nAgalinga);
mahAmAtangIm;
simhAsana adhISvara arcitAm- Her worshipped by kings (installed on throne);
This is a clear autobiographical reference.

SrIvidyA citprabhAnanda rAjayOgIndra vanditAm;
This too is autobiographical;
kRpAkaTAkSha sahitAm- Her with a glance filled with compassion.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 16 Mar 2006, 07:20

jaganmOhini is a auDava- ShADava upAnga janya of mAyA mALavagauLa, the 15th mELa. Its scale is

SG3M1PN3S* | s*NPMGR1S ||

This rAga was brought to light by tyAgarAja as CML has already pointed out. G and N are vAdi samvAdis. The rAga admits of vIra and SrngAra rasas.
oDeyar has aptly chosen jaganmOhini to describe the jaganmOhini. The kRti elaborates the rAga very well.

Can we have some elaborate renditions of jaganmOhini?

meena · Post by **meena** » 16 Mar 2006, 08:24

drshrikaanth wrote:
Can we have some elaborate renditions of jaganmOhini?

dont have any elaborate clips, have to turn to Kji/Badri for that

Meantime u can enjoy these:

Raga Jaganmohini clips:

Maamava - Jaganmohini - Roopakam - Tyagaraja by Smt. DKP
Shobhillu-Jagamohini-Tyagaraja- by sree SSI and BMK
Sivakaama Sundari-Jaganmohini-GB by sree susarla sivaram

(Note:zipped all 4 clips)

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RTP-Smt DKP
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If anyone has ST kriti Pahi tharakshupura pl. share with us.

abadri · Post by **abadri** » 16 Mar 2006, 09:19

dont have any elaborate clips, have to turn to Kji/Badri for that

Sorry, can't do better than this DKP/DKJ RTP rendition
[rapidshare link removed]

Hopefully it's not a repeat of your posting!

sudarshan · Post by **sudarshan** » 16 Mar 2006, 18:48

Reading each one of the lyrics of Wodeyar's compositions gives so much of bliss and yet leaves one wanting for more. Wonderful selection of words used in the right combination. This Jaganmohineem being the latest. What a beautiful composition. The song itself is as beautiful as the enchantress, Jaganmohini Rajarajeshwari. Surely, it must have been none other than Shri Rajamathangi Herself composing and singing through Wodeyar. Here's a small but erratic "thaniyan" in praise of him. CML, DRS, anybody, please correct.

|| Mahisurapuraadheesham
Gajaruda Vibhakaram
ShriVidya paripurnam
Chitprabhanandam Vande ||

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 16 Mar 2006, 22:01

Nice!
May I..
|| Mahisurapuraadheesham
GajArUDa VibhAkaram
SrIvidya paripUrNam
CitprabhAnandam Vande
JayacAmarAja kOkilam ||

Mahisurapuraadheesham = The Lord of Mysore (great country of devas)
GajArUDa VibhAkaram = The Sun riding on the elephant
SrIvidya paripUrNam = One replete with SrI vidya (esoteric knowledge)
CitprabhAnandam Vande = One who is in bliss in inner effulgence (I greet)
JayacAmarAja kOkilam = The JayacAmarAjA (one who has victory for the Royal fan (cAmaram)) cuckoo (bard).

Mahisurapuram = ? Mysore Is that the origin of the word? I never knew that!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 16 Mar 2006, 22:39

Next bRhannAyaki- nAyaki, Adi

http://rapidshare.de/files/14517854/bRu ... i.mp3.html

sudarshan · Post by **sudarshan** » 16 Mar 2006, 23:43

Thanks for the corrections and additions, CML. I do not know how nice it is. Just an impromptu set of verses that came to my mind after reading the lyrics of "Jaganmohineem".

Yes, Mahisurapura is the ancient name for Mysore. I too wasn't aware of this name until I came across it in a signature of Sri Chamaraja Wodeyar IX in one of his paintings displayed in the old residential museum behind the main Palace in Mysore.