Jayachamaraja Odeyar (Mysore Maharajah) - Part I

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 18 Dec 2005, 22:31

Meaning of
|| gaurimanOharI ||

rAga: gaurimanOharI ; miSra jhampe tALa.

gauri manOhari pAhi-Protect o beautiful gauri; kaumAri;
gauravarNa dEhadhari- You with a fair complexioned form/body; gautamAdi vandita SatAkShari- O SatAkshari Who is saluted by sage gautama et al
SatAkSharI is, I think another way of saying anEkAkShari. I do not know of a specific mantra with 100 letters. There are SatAkSharIs for nArAyaNa &rAma and there might be a simliar mantra for Her too. Sata means hundred/a large number/handsome/joy.

gIrvANa vAkpradAnakari- You Who bestow divine speech (or speech to the dEvas); Sankari;
girirAjakumAri- daughter of the lord of the mountains; paradi(parAtpara) vAgvaikhari- You Whose speech expresses the diversty of the 4 stages of speech (If the word is taken as parAtpara, then the meaning will be "Whose speech expresses the parabrahma")

guptayOgamAyE- The yOgamAya Who is secretive (Not open to easy understanding. She can only be realized with the loving guidance of a guru.

gurumahOdayE- The Supreme among all gurus Or You Who is/confers the greatness to gurus; guNAlayE-The abode of all good qualities; gangAdhara jAyE- Wife of Siva who bears the ganga; guhadayE- You Who show affection an compassion to kumAra. (guha is also a name for viShNu. It can also mean the heart.)

parama pavitra tripura sundarI mantrESvari- The mistress of the very sacred tripurasundArI mantra.
tripurasundarI mantra is a mantra to propitiate tripurasundarI. It is also called bAlA mantra of bAlAtripurasundarI mantra. Alternately, the sentence here can be split as "parama pavitra tripurasundari, mantrESvari" which would then mean "the Holy/sacred/pure tripurasundari; the mistress of all mantras." Recall the lines for SyAmaLA daNDaka "sarvamantrAtmikE sarvayantrAtmikE, sarvatantrAtmikE"

paramESvara manOhari- You Who enchant Sivas mind; paramadayAkari- You Who is all compassionate;
varamuni vaSiShTOpAsita padAmbhOruhE- You Whose lotus-feet are worshipped by the great sage vaSiShTa;
varENya vAsavAditya samudAyE- You Who is surrounded by the might indra and others; mAyE- The mAyA (illusion that surrounds everyone and everything in the universe except Herself)
praLayAgni jvAlamAlyadharE- You Who wears as a galand, the flames of the all-consuming conflagaration at the time of destruction of the universe (praLaya);
paramAdvaita bhAvaparE- You Who favours the sacred advaita (non-dualism; pAlitAkhilasurE- You Who protect all the dEvas.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 18 Dec 2005, 22:31

gaurimanOhari is the 23rd mELa. It scale is

SR2G2M1PD2N3S* | S*NDPMGRS ||

gaurIvELAvaLI is the asampUrNa mEla (with vakra ArOhaNa) and MD has composed a kRti in it. I think tyAgarAja was the first to handle this sampUrNa scale as a rAga. He has composed "guru lEka eTuvaNTi".
M & N are jIva swaras while R is a nyAsa as also M & N. It is aruNA rasa pradhAna rAga, the karuNe being strengthened by N3. This rAga falls next to kharaharapriya and hence only the niShAda is different. But there is hardly any overlap of the 2 rAgas otherwise. This is a very pleasing and beautiful rAga.
oDeyar`s krti is understandably in prase of gauri. The melody of the kRti is lilting and ha a light spring to it just like the rAga.

Coolkarni
Can you post RTPs in the rAga? Do you also have renditions of gaurivELAvaLi? Also still waiting for those few pieces in nArAyaNagauLa. Could you use an alternative to rapishare as I am hving problems with it? I have been unable to download throughout today as they "detected extreme rates of downloads". (goodness knows whatevr that means)

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 18 Dec 2005, 22:32

DRS
first let me get through the backlog of narayanagowla

a nice one by somu
http://rapidshare.de/files/4982257/kadd ... i.mp3.html

then the famous one by semmangudi(how i wish i could put up dor.iyengars rendering at academy-alas it is a commercial tape)

: http://rapidshare.de/files/4982851/Sri_ ... a.mp3.html

two varnams, by mdr and msg
: http://rapidshare.de/files/4983493/mdr- ... a.MP3.html
: http://rapidshare.de/files/4999275/msg- ... i.mp3.html

and two lesser known kritis..
: http://rapidshare.de/files/4999511/Dars ... n.mp3.html
: http://rapidshare.de/files/4999891/Inna ... y.mp3.html

ONTO TO GOWRIMANOHARI
badri .. can you help with conversion to yousendit please....

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 18 Dec 2005, 22:32

sAhitya of
|| SrI lalitE ||

rAga-latAngi, triSra tripuTa tALa

SrI lalitE SrIkaNThasahitE |
SrIcakrAntargatE namastE ||P||

srIpuravAsini trilOka janani |
Sritajana pAlini manOnmani ||
SrividyA mahAmantra pUtE SrI latAngI rAgahitE ||AP||

parvatarAjakumAri paramESvari |
parvakAlArcita mahAtripurasundari |
parama pavitrakara SrI gAyitri |
paratattvAdhISvari SrI rAjarAjESvari||
navAvaraNa madhyavAsini nAda bindu kalA svarUpiNi ||C||

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Dec 2005, 22:12

Meaning of SrI lalitE

rAga-latAngi, triSra tripuTa tALa

SrI lalitE; SrIkaNThasahitE- Consort of SrIkaNTha(Siva);
SrIcakrAntargatE namastE- Salutationsto Her within the SrIcakra;

srIpuravAsini- Her residing in the SrIpura; trilOka janani- Mother of the 3 worlds;
Sritajana pAlini- Her Who protects those that seek her aid; manOnmani;
SrividyA mahAmantra pUtE- Her illumined by the potent mantra of SrIvidyA; SrI; latAngI rAgahitE- Her pleased by the rAga latAngI

parvatarAjakumAri- Daughter of the lord of the mountains; paramESvari- The supreme queen;
parvakAlArcita mahAtripurasundari- mahAtripurasundarI worshipped during the parvakALa;
parama pavitrakara SrI gAyitri- gAyitrI Who/which purifies everything;
paratattvAdhISvari- The mistress of paratattva ( Siva is the paratattva & Sakti the energy thay drives Siva);SrI rAjarAjESvari;
navAvaraNa madhyavAsini- Her Who lives within the 9 AvaraNas of the SrIcakra;
nAda bindu kalA svarUpiNi Her Who is in the form of nAda, bindu & kalA;

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Dec 2005, 22:13

Note that the gaurimanOhari kRti does not have oDeyar`s mudre in it. Will post notes on nAda, bindu, kalA later.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Dec 2005, 22:14

nAda represents the inchoate(cannot be interpreted perceived as it is) sound movement/ OmkAra(a+u+m). OmkAra is what is perceived/interpreted as by the human ear.
bindu represents the potential universe with all its diversity and ramifications. It is the Siva-Sakti aikya rUpa and represents the potential for creation of the universe.
kalA represents the kAmakalA or the desire to create. It is another name for the body and all its actions/karma.

Human beings are a combination of the three (nAda-bindu- kalA svarUpa). She represents all the three and yet transcends and is beyond the three (nAda-bindu-kalAtItA). Note the same fact/concept (of being and transcending at the same time) echoed in the puruShasUkta_

Om sahasraSIrShAm puruShaH | sahasrAkShaH saharsapAt |
sa bhUmim viSvatO vRttvA | atyatiShtad daSAngulam ||

The tEvAram also says the same thing_

vAnAgi maNNAgi vaLiyAgi oLiyAgi
UnAgi uyirAgi uNmayumAy inmayumAyk
kOnAgi yAn enadenRavaravaraik kUttATTu-
vAnAgi ninRAyai en solli vAZhttuvanE ||

The word kaDavuL itself reflects this- kaDavuL is "kaDandu uLLAga iruppavan".

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Dec 2005, 22:15

latAngi is the 63rd mELa. Its scale is

SR2G3M2PD1N3S* | S*NDPMGRS ||

Only the dhaivata is different from kalyANi. All the other swaras are the same. hence the uttarAnga is important to distinguish from kalyANi. D & R are the jIva and nyAsa swaras. vIrarasa pradhAna.
oDeyar`s kRti is in a brisk pace with nice madhyamakAla passages interspersed in between. This will be a very good concert piece.

Any RTPs In the rAga?

abadri · Post by **abadri** » 26 Dec 2005, 22:15

Reposting the nArAyaNagauLA links on yousendit as per Shri Kulkarni's request.

a nice one by somu
http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1K71 ... LIF2UNKIUE

then the famous one by semmangudi
http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2U3Y ... XNXC3UNV4E

two varnams, by mdr and msg
MDR: http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1CDC ... OU7VUK2A6W
MSG: http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3PV9 ... WYGHX89OTC

and two lesser known kritis..
Malini Rajan: http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=24QG ... PJXK07HH4G
Seetha Rajan: http://s36.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=33RH ... AUF134F9EW

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 26 Dec 2005, 22:17

DRS,

Despite my attempt to edit and delete, it is obvious that I failed to frame the question cogently.

My train of thoughts was on a different track and hence the unintended faux pause.

There was a reason for me to pose the question to karthik,

I had received a mail from him on 30-9-04 :

quote:

?I am a big fan of Jayachamraja Wodeyar and had the fortune of recording about 40-45 kritis of his rendered in AIR recently. Did you have any chance to listen to them?

I am in the process of creating a website for HH and your lyrics are just about the right kind of thing that I require to publish a pdf that one and all can use.

I ill also be putting up audios of the kritis in my site, which I hope, will be up soon?

unquote:

And another mail on 1-10-04:

quote:

?Yes, it was an excellently conducted programme. All the 94 kritis were rendered, the raga lakshana explained, and the meaning and the context of the kriti detailed. I will be more than willing to share them with you. Where are you put up??
unquote:

hope karthik will not mind me quoting from his personal mail !

As such I knew the programme on AIR was just a year old and I also know that probably with the sole exception of RKS, none of the present genre of singers could have possibly participated in the AIR programs during late 1950?s.

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 26 Dec 2005, 22:17

But as I know the earliest exclusive JCRW concert was done jointly by International Music & Arts society and karnataka Ganakala parishat on April 3, 1976 at Ravindra Kalakshetra. RKS was the singer then.

In later years an organization known as R.V.samoodAya did a series of program called jayasaMgIta saMvaradhana saMgIta rUpaka and did a great job in identifying the kRuti?s and stalwarts like late Thitte Krishna Iyengar, Dr.Sathyanarayana and others participated in the deliberations. Vidwan?s R.S.Nandakumar, M.Venkatesha Achar, Shreekantham Nagendra Shastri, S.Shankar and Vidushi?s R.N. Shreelata,,Sukanaya Prabhakar, G.S.kamala, G.S. Rajalakshmi,, Sudha V.Murthy, B.V.Vijayalakshmi and Sangeetha Shastrajna V.Nanjunda Swamy participated in the concerts and around 49 Kruti?s were recorded complete with notations Prof.V.Ramaratnam in his book (Year 2000) was able to identify sahitya for 46 of them. Later Dr.Sukanya Prabhakar in her book ( year 2002) was able to identify sahitya for around 84 kRuti?s. As a matter of fact RKS has written the introduction for this book. Dr.Meera Rajaram Pranesh?s (year 2003) book is general in nature and does not provide any sahitya of JCRW?s works. In 2004 during celebeartion of JCRW?s 86 th birthday Dr.Sukanya Prabhakar released a cassette. In 2005 during the 87th birthday celebrations, Vidwan R.S. Nanadakumar and his wife performed in a dance program adopting four of JCRW kRuti?s.

But in none of the above works the missing kRuti?s as mentioned earlier are to be found.

As such, I was surprised how AIR could come up with all 94 kRuti?s suddenly, unless they were in their archives. I vaguely remember having read about such a work during the time of Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer & Dr.Mysore Venkatesha Doreswamy Iyengar. This was the context in which I made the earlier poser to karthik. I will search that article and if i find it, i will let you know.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Dec 2005, 22:17

Raja chandra
Thanks for clarifying. I am aware of Karthik`s desire to put up a website on oDeyar. He had spoken to me over the phone when I was in Bangalore a few months ago. He had askd me about sources of information regarding SrIvidyA in oDeyar`s kRtis. Little did I know then that I myself would be writing extensively on the subject in this thread.

I also have the copy(with me now since 2 days ago Very Happy ) of Prof||V.Ramarathnam`s "maisUru oDeyaru mattu karNATaka sangIta" published by the kannaDa pustaka prAdhikAra. (I had mentioned this book to karthik).

You have mentioned another series by RV samudAya "jaya sangIta samvardhana sangIa rUpaka". When was this and can you giv me more details? This too must have been fairly recent as R.S. Nandaumara (son of Dr.R.Sathyanarayana and Shreekantam Nagendra Sastry are youngsters. I am a bit surprised that Nagendra did not mention this to me. I know him very well and we worked together with many other days during the early days of ananya. Do you get the ananyaabhivyakti regularly by any chance? I used to write regularly for the abhivyakti several years ago. I also wrote a series- "karNATaka sangItadalli chandOvicAra" in it.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 26 Dec 2005, 22:18

Kulkarni Sa'ab,
Do you (or anyone else?) have a vocal rendering of 'gurulEka' of Tyagaraja?
I have a very nice gaurimanOhari by Nityashree that is unfortunately a commercial recording Crying or Very Sad
She sings an OVS composition, 'pazhamO, pazhamO pazham, BAgavatha pazham'. And this composition is truly a proclamation from OVS on the wonders of the 'BAgavatham'; and according to GS Mani, gaurimanOhari is the rAg of proclamation.
Dr. Shrikaanth, can you comment on that?
Ravi

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Dec 2005, 22:18

Ravi
Heres a link for gurulEka by T.S Balakrishna Sastrigal from the thread in sangeetham.

http://rapidshare.de/files/4960099/01-G ... uvanti.mp3

abadri · Post by **abadri** » 26 Dec 2005, 22:19

Here are a few more
(KVN) http://rapidshare.de/files/5033752/KVN_ ... nohari.mp3
(MDR) http://rapidshare.de/files/5033778/MDR_ ... nohari.mp3
(Somu) http://rapidshare.de/files/5033797/Somu ... nohari.mp3

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 26 Dec 2005, 22:19

Stealing from coolkarni from the 'TK Rangachari' thread is this fantastic gurulekha
http://rapidshare.de/files/5008231/03-G ... i.mp3.html

I hope he will pardon me Laughing Laughing

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 26 Dec 2005, 22:20

cml

Stealing from...

there is a phrase in a dasara pada-kannadi olagina gantu kadda kalla- like the thief who steals a treasure inside a mirror- the context in that song may not be apt here,(we can wait for DRS to elaborate) by the phrase per se, is.
are we all not thiefs, however glorified??
your mention of stealing brings to mind another speech of bhimsen joshi .He once said he considered himself a thief(hum sab ek tharaf ke chor hai) for as long as we dont have access to sawai gandharvs renderings, we give the prime attention to the thief who is distributing it around.and to learn that sawai gandharv never taught two students simultaneously, becuase he believed in the individual identity which can never be brought to a common ground, it makes amazing reading.For that matter he never even considered a raga as something fixed and permanent.a malkauns sung on day one had to have a totally different identity than the one sung on day two...
speaks great volumes for this wonderful art called classical music.

http://rapidshare.de/files/5037728/kaly ... i.mp3.html
:http://rapidshare.de/files/5036816/semm ... i.mp3.html
: http://rapidshare.de/files/5037251/kaly ... i.mp3.html
: http://rapidshare.de/files/5037376/ost- ... i.mp3.html
: http://rapidshare.de/files/5038715/trs- ... a.mp3.html
: http://rapidshare.de/files/5039138/trs- ... i.mp3.html

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 26 Dec 2005, 22:21

DRS
lathangi
yes we are fortunate to have two rtps here.
by (who else ?) MLV and
MM IYER

should be up tonight.

we are into the last 16 krithis.somehow i am reminded of a theatre in my hometown which specialised in shows like "Shantaram week" rajkapoor week" Devanand week".......

we used to-my dad and myself(he would pull me away from school-boy did i have a great education !!) watch nonstop for weeks .sometimes standing.(We never dreamt that one day we would be having vcds at home)
the pace was scorching but as the end came i n sight we would have withdrawl sypmtoms.
I am feeling something like that now

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Dec 2005, 22:22

Is it a coincidence that coolkarni mentioned "kannaDi oLagina gaNTu kaNDu kaLLa kannavikkalavana vaSavahude" from nA ninna dhynadoLiralu(kAnaDa) just when I have explained the meaning on a sangeetham thread.
Thieves or no thieves, there is nobility and good intention behind the efforts.

I recall the line from sarvaj~na`s vacana

"koTTaddu tanage baitiTTaddu pararinge"- 'That which is given is what belongs to us; that which is hoarded is for others to enjoy'.
How thought-provoking, profond and true! What indeed is the use of assets or knowledge kept locked up either in a locker or in ones own mind. If it is not shared, it dies with one and serves no purpose. What a colossal and pitiable waste. I know of many such cases where compositions have been kept locked up for years waiting for someone to pay a handsome sum for these to be released. Can a kRti be valued in terms of money?. They are priceless and the (market)value only increases as more people get to know them. If there is intrinsic worth, and God`s will, they will see the light of day.

As for your withdrawal symptoms, I may have a treatment to at least mitigate or delay the onset of symptoms coolkarni. I have several more from the series on tape. If I mage to learn how to convert them to MP3 and find time to do it, I could post them too. And I am sure Raja Chandra will come to the rescue and post some other kRtis not part of the series(as he has already done).

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 26 Dec 2005, 22:22

DRS it must be telepathy.
last two days i am down with high fever and i just get up to post/upload here before dropping off again.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Feb 2006, 00:57

She sings an OVS composition, 'pazhamO, pazhamO pazham, BAgavatha pazham'. And this composition is truly a proclamation from OVS on the wonders of the 'BAgavatham'; and according to GS Mani, gaurimanOhari is the rAg of proclamation.
Dr. Shrikaanth, can you comment on that?
Ravi

Some rAgas do have this feel of being suited for certain purposes/emotions. It is not easy to put a finger on where this comes from. R.R.Keshavamurthy says the same about abhOgi too- "tattva bOdhane mADalu I rAga uktavAgide". I think bhakti bhAva is a necessity in a rAga for it to be suitable for tattva bOdhane. The pUrvAnga in gaurimanOhari is full of bhakti while the uttarAnga not only has bhakti but an element of pity/compassion. To me it appears t be well suited to express a bOdhane with an element of pity/compassion. Also to express realization accompanied by sadness. e.g "the bhAgavata is the essence of bhakti mArga of realization. Ye men. Read at least one line form it in your lifetime". Or say in a pada, "sakhi. It doesn't seem as if He will come today. Fool I was to believe he would!"
innava bahanEne ibhayAne |
enitE samaya nirIkShisidare tAne ||

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Feb 2006, 00:57

Coolkarni
Get well soon. If thats ok with yu, I can post the kRtis from the series myself till you get better. What say you?

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 26 Feb 2006, 00:58

Dear coolkarni
Though a tranformation into 'hotkarni' is the inevitable consequence of fever, while the body is waging the mahabharata war with its defences, it does free the mind to reach exalting heights. Some of the finest artistic (even scientific) creations are the products of feverish minds. If it is any comfort just recollect our discussion we had in viruttam of the masterpiece of SSI:

Composer : appayya dIkSitar

maulau ganga shashAnkau
kara caraNa talE shItalAngA bhujangAha
vAmE bhAgE dayArdrA himagiritanayA
candanam sarvagAtrE

itham shItam prabhUtam
tava kanakasabhAnAtha sODum kva shaktihi
cittE *rOgENa* taptE yadi bhavati na tE
nitya vAsO madhIyE

On your locks are the river Ganga and the moon. On your your feet and arms are the cold serpents. On your left is the compassionate daughter of the snow mountains and you have applied the cool sandal all over your body.

How, O Lord of the Golden Cosmic Hall, are you able to bear such cold atmosphere? You are welcome to stay eternally in my heart which is hot *with the infection I got*.

(I have taken a small liberty with the lyric (in asterisks)).

Also please recollect more delectable anecdotes when you are resting!

But then GET WELL SOON for our sake

kartik · Post by **kartik** » 26 Feb 2006, 00:58

Raja Chandra,
Thanks for your posts and I am very pleasantly surprised that you have retained my mails which I sent you earlier.
I am still bent upon setting up the JCW website and I really hope that I can do it for this Dasara by the grace of God.DRS and your self along with the revered CML have given me more inputs that I could ever have hoped to get.
I am really fortunate to be a part of this exalted forum and in the company of erdite scholars here.Coolkarni has done a yeoman service to carnatic music by starting this thread and his role as a contributor is simply great to say the least,as I sure everyone would agree.

Now,that we have heard most of HH's compositions it may be a good idea to choose his top 5-10 kritis so that atleast some of the musicians of today can choose to render them.
My picks are
1.Sri Mahaganapatim-Atana(Very popular)
2.Sri Chamundeswari-Rishabhapriya
3.Kamakshim Varalakshmim-Vasantha
4.Nagalinga Maheswaram-Shankarabharanam(Beautiful Shankarabharanam-especially love the anupallavi line where the raga name occurs)
5.Bale Bruhatsrushti-Simhendramadhyamam
6.Sugyanadayinim-Sudha Salavi
7.Pahimam Varalakshmim-Gundakriya
8.Durgadevi-Dharmavathi
9.And finally a wildcard entry in Vijayambike Paripahi Mam-Vijayavasantha.This piece I felt is simply stunning considering the vivaditva,but a very melodious kriti

Please forgive me for the digression.

These are the kritis which I love the most

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Feb 2006, 00:59

Heres the dharmavati kRti.

http://rapidshare.de/files/5056258/Dhar ... i.mp3.html

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Feb 2006, 00:59

And the sAhitya
|| durgAdEvi ||

rAga: dharmavati; Adi tALa

durgAdEvi samrakShamAm |
svargAdi sakala saukhyadAyini ||P||

durgAsurAdi daitya bhanjani |
durgati durAcAra vidhvamsini ||
bhargahRdaya mOdini gargamuni varadAyini trailOkyamOhini ||AP||

nAradamuni hRtsarasijanilayE |
pAdAdi SikhAnta brahmANDa valayE |
narakaNThIrava SarabhESvara priyE |
pAvana SrI vidyAnilayE sadayE ||
varapASEkShu dhanurbANayutE varadharmavatI nAma pratipAditE ||

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 26 Feb 2006, 00:59

coolkarni,

get well soon !!

Karthik,

I am happy to know you are still keen on the site. It was my wish too. But as you expressed the desire, I kept quiet. But if you need any help, do not hesitate to contact me. But do not do it with any free hosting site like geocity etc. we can even use freepgs.com if you want.

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:00

DRS,

i was able to find the info:

Just as the father had moved from village to town in pursuit of his career in music, so the son was compelled to shift from town to city when he was appointed a Producer with All India Radio (AIR) in Bangalore in 1955. Doreswamy Iyengar's initial reluctance owed both to his attachment to Mysore and to his fear that the demands of the post would curtail his involvement in music. He had to audition and select musicians, and plan features in music and music appreciation. He had to perform for AIR at need. Just when bureaucratic and organisational demands made him decide to give up the post, the Madras-based Chief Producer Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer visited Bangalore and persuaded him - with the assurances of flexible hours and fewer burdens of administration - to stay on.

"Gita Bharati" was among the unique features that Doreswamy Iyengar put together for AIR. It juxtaposed the kritis of Thyagaraja and Muthuswami Dikshitar with the Bengali songs of Rabindranath Tagore, based on their musical structure. These unusual pieces had been composed by Tagore after his trip to southern India in the 1920s that included a visit to the Mysore court. Tagore had drawn inspiration from Carnatic compositions such as Needu charanamule (Simhendramadhyamam), Minakshi memudam (Purvikalyani) and Lavanya rama (Purnashadjam).

Doreswamy Iyengar's grand and moving tribute to the torchbearers of the Mysore school took shape as a homage to the composers of the post-Thyagaraja period in Karnataka. The radio programme of the compositions of Sadashiva Rao, Vasudevachar, Harikesanallur Muthiah Bhagavatar, Veena Seshanna and Maharaja Jayachamaraja Wodeyar revealed their extraordinary creativity and ripeness.

you can read the full article at : http://www.frontlineonnet.com/fl1423/14230990.htm

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:00

DRS ,CML & karthik
[I am aware of Karthik`s desire to put up a website on oDeyar. He had spoken to me over the phone when I was in Bangalore a few months ago. He had askd me about sources of information regarding SrIvidyA in oDeyar`s kRtis]

QUOTE:

Here is a message from Vidwan Sri.V.Nanjunda swamy for all of you:

At the outset,

Dr.Srikanth and another gentlemen so called ?CML? , please accept my heartfelt congratulations. About my introduction Sri. Mohan Urs will apprise you with my bio-data. ( Thro? Mr. Mohan I had forwarded few excerpts to him and others).

Regarding the subject ?J.Wadeyar Krithi?s interpretation? which is very tough subject to discuss either over phone or Internet. But it is possible with personal meeting. ?SRIVIDYA? is embedded in all the compositions. That is why with the knowledge of ? SRIVIDYA?, composition analysis will be easy. Since the Odeyar?s Krithis are not available with notations fully in print there may be some mistake while copying the script. I as a special Guide to Mrs. Sukanya Prabhakar dealt each Krithi with my own interpretations emphasizing much on Srividya aspect. Of course bereft of Srividya aspect, Krithis cannot be understood . Not only that, There are certain Things which can be discussed with certain facts and figures and circumstances. So please try to meet me in person where we can discuss with regard to these compositions in depth.

About Odeyar?s compositions Authorship, let me say with Authority That he is the REAL AUTHOR. I can substantiate , please go through my Bio data for that . Mysore Vasudevacharya was not having much knowledge on SRIVIDYA. Dear Sr. Srikanth, you are most welcome to our place and my house to discuss these things in detail as I am very happy to part with my knowledge.

UNQUOTE:

if you want me post his bio-data i will do it.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:00

Kulkarni sa'ab,
Hope you feel better soon. Maybe listening all of your sweet music will be 'medicine' enough: I remember a dhOhA that goes:
'maDHur vachan hai aushadI, katuk vachan hai thIrl
sravaN dwAr hai sancharI, phailE sakal sarIrll

Ravi
'aushadham jAnhavi thOyam, vaidhyO nArAyaNO harihi'

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:01

I didnt see this thread for the last 2 days. Hope coolkarniji is fine now.

meena · Post by **meena** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:01

Kji
Hope u get well soon

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:02

The time is ripe to think in terms of a fitting web-memorial for the genius of HH Odeyaar. It better be a web temple for Sri Vidya whose high priest is HH Odeyaar. Now that over 6500 visitors have gotten a glimpse of the greatness, scholarship and musical depth of Odeyaar (thanks to the untiring labour of DRS) our small group has seeded and primed the public by our discussions. There are thousands of devotees of Sri Vidya who will flock to a musical tribute to Devi through naadOpaasana once the format is established. There is a need to organize the materials so that the tendays of dashara can be sequentially covered by the songs as well as the addition of the musical notations (which perhaps DRS can undertake taking advantage of the western notations of Odeyaar himself (?)). By that process the musical wealth will be directly transmitted to the singers-at-large than through the complicated concert platform. perhaps the organization can be discussed under the leadership of Kartik/DRS/RC in a separate thread as well as through e-mails with input from all interested participants ( we may also announce the discussions and invite participation from a wider group of CM and Sri Vidya enthusiasts).

meena · Post by **meena** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:02

DRS

can u pl. LIST the kritis discussed in order. thanku

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:03

Raja Chandra
I would be very happy to meet Musicologist Shri|| Nanjunda swamy-avaru. But I guess it will have to wait till Iam in Bangalore next time. Do post whatever info you have. You can also send me a private message here or correspond through e-mail.

CML
Thanks for your encouraging words.

Ravi
That is a very nice dOhA.

Meena
Posting sAhitya notes on the rAga, meanings, anecdotes etc itself consumes a lot of time. Hence I would appreciate if you or someone else here could list the kRtis discussed here.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:03

Notes on
|| durgAdEvi ||

rAga: dharmavati; Adi tALa

durgAdEvi samrakShamAm- Protect e O durgA;
svargAdi sakala saukhyadAyini- You Who give all comforts & goodies including the entry to heaven;

durgAsurAdi daitya bhanjani- You Who decimated durhAsura and other demons;
durgati durAcAra vidhvamsini- You Who destroy distress/misfortune and bad conduct/vice;
bhargahRdaya mOdini- You Who pleases the heart of brahma/Siva (bharga can mean both Siva and brahma/parabrahma) ;
gargamuni varadAyini- You Who blessed the sage garga with boons;
Sage garga was the family priest (bAdhyAru) of both vasudEva (kRShNa`s father) and parvatarAja (father of pArvati). He was a renowned astrologer. He very well knew that kRShNa was an incarnation of viShNu and revealed some of this information about the circumstances of birth, yOgamAyA(durgA) etc to nanda during the naming ceremony of kRShNa.
When pArvati was born, She did not dring milk or even cry for the firts few days. It was garga muni who advised the needful to wake the child. He asked for a sivalinga to be brought. The child immediately opened Her eyes and folded the arms to the linga. She also ate the butter prasAda and then started sucking milk.
I do not know of any specific boons being conferred by durgA on garga.

trailOkyamOhini- You Who enchant the 3 worlds.

nAradamuni hRtsarasijanilayE- You Who reside in the heart of sage nArada;
In the kulacUDAmaNI tantra, nArada is mentioned as the RShi and gAyatrI as the chandas/metre for the worship of durgA by uttering Her mantra.

pAdAdi SikhAnta brahmANDa valayE- You Who are encircled(adorned) from head to toe by the universe.(Or You Who has the universe as your parts/avayavas i.e virATsvarUpA);
narakaNThIrava SarabhESvara priyE- You Who are fond of narasimha and Sarabha;
Sarabha is a ugra form of Siva (as a creature with 8 legs) that pacified narasimha. dEvI pratyangirA in turn pacified Sarabha.

pAvana SrI vidyAnilayE- You Who reside in the sacred SrIvidyA;
sadayE- Compassionate One.
varapASEkShu dhanurbANayutE- You Who hold the noose, bow of sugarcane and arrows;
varadharmavatI nAma pratipAditE- You Who maifests in the hallowed name of dharmavatI.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:03

dharmavati/dhAmavati is the 59th mELa. Its scale is

SR2G2M2PD2N3S* | S*NDPMGRS ||

It is the pratimadhyama rAga of gaurimanOhari. R, G & N are jIvaswaras. The nyAsas are R,M & N. It gives karuNA and bhakti rasas. It is a very pleasing rAga and sounds equally good in heavy classical, light classical as well as light music. The hindUstAni equivalent is madhuvanti. One film song comes vividly to mind where the rAga has been portrayed finely and neatly- oTTagattaik kaTTiO/rUp suhAnA lagtA hai.

oDeyar`s kRti is a great portrayal of the rAga and its beauty. There is no lightness in the sancAras here.

I am eager to hear MD`s parandhAmavati, MV`s bhajanasEyarAda and any RTPs in the rAga.

abadri · Post by **abadri** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:04

I am eager to hear MD`s parandhAmavati, MV`s bhajanasEyarAda and any RTPs in the rAga.

We've samples of TMT performing each one!
http://rapidshare.de/files/5074008/TMT- ... mavati.mp3
http://rapidshare.de/files/5074054/TMT- ... mavati.mp3
http://rapidshare.de/files/5074104/TMT- ... rmvati.mp3

And for variety's sake, here's an RTP from Santhanam
http://rapidshare.de/files/5074130/Sant ... mavati.wma

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:05

hello everyone.
getting back to normal fast.took the opportunity to look into very old doreswamy iyengars air blore recordings.this surely helped me recover faster,some sublime chakravakams, bhairavis....will kickstart the air thread again shortly.

DHARMAVATHI..
do i need to reload tracks which i had put up for the dharmavathi thread-trs-lalgudi and others. i will wait for a couple of days.

Lathangi

: http://rapidshare.de/files/5074624/mlv- ... i.mp3.html
: http://rapidshare.de/files/5074976/kaly ... i.mp3.html
: http://rapidshare.de/files/5075891/bmk- ... i.mp3.html

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:05

last one

: http://rapidshare.de/files/5076402/mm_i ... i.mp3.html

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:05

Coolkarni
Good to hear that you are getting & feeling better. Thanks for the various pieces in latAngi. Could you post the "kanda bhakta", RTP in 2 parts by lalgudi and "bhajana sEya" by DKJ again here on yousendit. Dont bother about the other ones in the dharmavati thread.

Badri
Thanks for the dharmavati pieces.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:06

Heres the next one- kAmESarIm kAmavardhinIm in kAmavardhini

http://rapidshare.de/files/5097488/Kama ... m.mp3.html

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:06

mAtu of
|| kAmESvarIm ||

rAga: kAmavardhini ; miSra jhampe tALa

kAmESvarIm kAmavardhinIm bhaja mAnasa |
kAmakOTi pITha nivAsinIm kAmAkShIm ||

kAmESvara manOharIm kAruNyalaharIm |
karuNAkaTAkShIm kanjadaLAyatAkShIm ||
kAlAtItAm EkAmrESvara kAma paripUrNakarIm tripurasundarIm ||

sarvAnandamaya trikONAntargata cakravAsinIm |
pancabrahma paryankOpavESinIm |
Sarva mahAkAla bhairavAdi dEvatAsahita- |
catuSShaShThi kalAntaranga yOginIm ||
saumyAm saumyatara kAntiyutAm sOma sUryAgni lOcanAm SubhAnvitAm |
sOmanAtha manOllAsinIm saubhAgyadAyinIm SAradAdi triSakti rUpiNim ||

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:07

Kulkarni Sa'ab,
GLAD to hear that you are feeling better. It maybe a good idea to take things slowly for a few days!
Ravi

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:07

Part 1 of Notes on
|| kAmESvarIm ||

rAga: kAmavardhini ; miSra jhampe tALa

This kRti is on the 9th AvaraNA, sarvAnandamaya cakra.

kAmESvarIm; kAmavardhinIm- Her Who incites/nurtures kAma/desire; bhaja mAnasa- Pray O mind;
kAmakOTi pITha nivAsinIm- Her residing in the kAmakOTi pITha of kanci(or the 9th AVaraNa); kAmAkShIm;

kAmESvara manOharIm- Enchantress of kAMESvara; kAruNyalaharIm- The stream of compassion;
karuNAkaTAkShIm- Her with a compassionate gaze; kanjadaLAyatAkShIm- Her With eyes as the lotus petals;
kAlAtItAm-Her Who is beyond time (unnbound by time); EkAmrESvara kAma paripUrNakarIm- Her Who fulfils the desires of EkAmrESvara, the presiding Lord of kanci; tripurasundarIm;
tripurasundarI has several meanings. She is the pramAtR, pramANa, pramEya. It also has the meaning of Her being older and senior to the trimUrtis. tripura has the meaning of the 3 nADIs(iDA, pingaLa, suShumnA),; also manas, buddhi, citta. Since She is present in these, She is tripurA. Quote from tripurArNava

nADItrayam ca tripurA suShumnA pingaLA iDA |
manObuddhiH tathA cittam puratrayam udAhRtam ||
tatra tatra vasatyEShA tasmAttu tripurAmatA |

The AvaraNadEvatA of the 9th cakra is mahAtripurasundarI while tripurasundarI is the dEvatA for the 3rd cakra(sarva sankShObhaNa cakra). She is parApara rahasyayOginI. For the sake of brevity, oDeyar has addressed Her as tripurasundarI omitting the prefix "mahA".

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:08

Part 2 of Notes on
|| kAmESvarIm ||

sarvAnandamaya trikONAntargata cakravAsinIm- She Who has Her abode in the bindu within the triangle of the sarvAnandamaya cakra(the 9th AvaraNa)
pancabrahma paryankOpavESinIm- Her reclining on a couch made of the panca(5) brahmas.
mahAtripurasundarI has Her abode in the bindusthAna. Siva is the manca/bed/cot. sadSiva is the mattress/mat. the 4 legs of the bed are brahma, viShNu, rudra & ISvara. brahma, viShNu, rudra, ISvara & sadASiva are collectively called the pancabrahmas or pancaprEtas. She is seate on the lap of SivakAmESvara. Note "pancabrahmAsanasthitA"& pancaprEtAsanAsInA in the sahasranAma.

Sarva mahAkAla bhairavAdi dEvatAsahita- Her With ISvara, mahAkAla, bhairava and other dEvas.
If the sAhitya is take to be " Sarva mahA kAlabhairva digdEvatAsahita" then it woud refer to Sarva and the aShTa bhairavas guarding the 8 directions. i have mentioned the names of these eight in my notes on an earlier kRti. In the rendition here, the vocalists sing digdEvatA
catuSShaShThi kalAntaranga yOginIm- That yOginI(parApararahasya yOginI) Who is the soul of the 64 kales.

saumyAm- Her Who is placid, gentle and benevolent; saumyatara kAntiyutAm- Her with the cool radiance of the moon; (sOma is moon. saumya means 'of the moon')

sOma sUryAgni lOcanAm- Her with the sun, moon and fires as Her three eyes; SubhAnvitAm- Her with goodness and auspiciousness;
sOmanAtha manOllAsinIm- Her Who pleases Siva, the Lord of the moon(wearing him as an ornament);
saubhAgyadAyinIm- Her Who showes good fortune and prosperity; SAradAdi triSakti rUpiNim- Her Who is in the form of lakShmI, sarasvatI and pArvatI
(embodiment of preservation, creation and destruction or of icchA, j~nAna and kriyA Saktis)

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:08

rshankar
your doha appeared on the post just as i was listening to this greatest of kabir bhajan singers -kumar gandharv-
cannot resist the tempation to digress and post here.

: http://rapidshare.de/files/5110374/sunt ... i.mp3.html

He is one singer of bhajans-though a top classical musician-who gives you the impression that it is sung the way in which probably Kabir himself would have sung.He takes us back into time and makes you a wandering monk as well.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:09

your doha appeared on the post just as i was listening to this greatest of kabir bhajan singers -kumar gandharv-
cannot resist the tempation to digress and post here.

Kulkarni sa'ab,
I just d/led that track: it is absolutely divine! THANKS. That alone makes remembering a whole bunch of hindi poetry worthwhile! (I was on our champion hindi poetry anthAksharI team at school, and along with the other 2 members of the team have spent innumerable hours looking for, reading and memorizing poetry all through classes 8-12)

Another thing that struck me is when I listen to Hindustani singers sing bhajans, the words are so beautiflly enunciated that it adds to the beauty of the piece. However, when one of the CM artists try it, they really mess up the words (a prime example was in one of the tracks that you had posted: the NS and OST 'jugalbanDHI'. Have you made the same observation.

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:09

that is an observation i would like to gloss over.otherwise we will not have any one down here in the south singing them

any way I think kalyanraman is the only singer who has got his hindi right .
but your interest and proficiency in hindi poetry promises interesting days ahead.
I hope to start a thread sometime later and we can get to the lyrics part of meera,kabir,surdas and other sufi saints and all the underlying wisdom
wonder if you have heard rajneeshs discourse on kabir .it is a very valuable commenatary- in hindi- and everytime he returns to "pandith vaad vadanthi" there is a feeling of climbing one more step in understanding kabir.great discourse.
any way i will stop this digression here.we can catch up elsewhere

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 26 Feb 2006, 01:10

wonder if you have heard rajneeshs discourse on kabir .it is a very valuable commenatary- in hindi- and everytime he returns to "pandith vaad vadanthi" there is a feeling of climbing one more step in understanding kabir.great discourse.

No..I have not had that luck, but your idea of a thread for hindi composers is awesome!
Ravi