MS Understood: essay in Caravan magazine by TM Krishna.

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SrinathK wrote: ...speaking of TRS mama, he was quite forthright about what he thought the old generation of pallavi terrorists did to get to where they were -- he thought they rehearsed for months even...
So are we supposed to think RTP is the biggest hoax perpetrated on rasikas all along? :lol:
You know sometimes it feels like it.. When the artiste has not established a sense of viSrAnti ( or inversely a sort of a tempo) in the earlier part of the concert - doing a RTP is not very convincing.. and for that they have to have developed that sense in their music too. Especially those whose voices are only kanTa rasana - the crooners.

So viSrAnti is not just at the aruti - where the pallavi is dissected ;)
SrinathK wrote: So I tell the critics, what more do you want? Much much more kannaku? Then you'll probably say, "Melodically so beautiful. Pity it sometimes devolves into just maths?" -- sometimes that happens,
After all the mathematics has been practiced and become their second nature - to get that Jeevan at the hair's edge of the kArvai - where can a musician go? They are straight headed to the music of MSS / MMI ! where else? chandObhyah adhi amRtAt sah babhUva - nectar amidst the verses. That is the upanishadic truth one's music must speak ( nijavAkkuladO) - before we even we get to the lyrics and their meaning!

Then there is the verse "mAtra balam" in taitrIya samhita. mAtra - the time (kArvai or viSrAnti; rest), balam - the effort ( sollu or kriyA;action). mAtra Suddham in rendition. MSS/MMI again. As MMI nonchalantly touches the lower register in Arya vinuta - as speedily as he renders sUrya mUrtE. I should also cite something I ran into - unlikeliest of all places - muruganIn maru peyar azaghu by MLV. Her descendants cannot match her in that especially - the kuzhaivu has that perfection and mAtra Suddham.

Talking of abhangs - they sit at right at the start of evolutionary path of what is now known as Mridangam. The belief is that the Mridangam originally came from Maharashtra to Thanjavur. I think people are rediscovering the Chandas down its memory lane starting from there!. After the crooners ( they are not dhIruDevvaDos) removed all sense of it in the 80s, 90s. Except that the ransacking Maratha army is not there this time :lol:

I would take an abhang - even if it is not the original varkari sampradaya - any day than a sankIrNa jampa pallavi by the crooners.

People all over received MS Amma's music in the Chandas of their affinity - be it Vishnu sahasranAmam or Bhaja Govindam, Meera Bhajan or rabIndra sangIt or abhangs or trinity. The nectar or the substance is the same. That is the upanishadic tribute we can best lay at her feet.

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http://www.deccanherald.com/content/506 ... magic.html

238 Concerts of MS ! Varsha Garu __/\__

My day starts with searching for MS name for images and videos and audios and ends with it. :) 238 Concerts of MS ... WOW

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Wonderful. My mind thought 'eppadi manam thuninthatho' about the trash. Reading such accounts is the way to steady the unsettled mind.

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People who had seen MS or were fortunate to move with her would be clearly swept off their feet on seeing her humility and her self effacing nature. Let us not pay much credence to TMK's view which at best can be an exercise in garnering mob attention.

However technically sound he may be in theory of music, it would be trying to see him in a live concert given the sort of contortions and gestures he makes while singing. Also his pronounciation needs much to be improved. In a Sahana song of Thooran about Mahaperiyava, the reference to Dakshinamoorthy was made as one sitting under Peepul tree(Aalin Kizh), this musician renders it as though under one person (aal). So much for his care in rendering lyrics. Yet he has the temerity to pass judgment over a musician of the stature of MS

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Varsha,
That is a beautiful poem. You have two antennae no doubt.
That reminds me of the KuraL:
Mahan thanthathikku Atrum udavi ivan thanthai
EnnotrAn kol enum sil.

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This thread brims with illuminating posts of late! A flooding of the one and only MS's music as well! It has veered away to flow along merrily with the beauty and spiritual quality of her music. Thanks all!

sankark,
I am rereading your post. An inspired one!

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http://chowdaiahandparvati.blogspot.in/ ... grand.html

Do listen to this concert if you have not heard earlier.

I have no words to thank the blog team of Chowdiah Parvati for sharing this concert.

Wish they upload few more concerts of MS :)

Regards,
Aditya.

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A few impressions of Sri TS from a distance:
I attended a concert of Smt. MS in MA long ago. Sri TS spoke. He announced that Smt. MS was going on a concert tour of the far east. He added (uncharacteristically?) ‘poovudan serntha nArum maNam peRuvathu pola nAnum pokiren.’ That is the man who ruthlessly overpowered MS!
In Ponniyin Pudalvan, I read Sri TS having said, ‘I have a picture of MS in Kalki office not because she is my wife, but since she has contributed to its capital.’ That is the man who ruthlessly overpowered MS!
I happened to read an interview of MS where at one stage, Sri TS intervenes to say, ‘Her success and fame are not due to me, but her merit.’ That is the man who ruthlessly overpowered MS!
He ensured that his daughter provided vocal support to MS rather than embark on a musical career by herself. That is the man who ruthlessly overpowered MS!
He arranged top class accompanists for MS by astute judgment and shrewd efforts. He was ruthless if an accompanist goofed up, I read in one article. That is the man who ruthlessly overpowered MS!
As a naïve person amenable to being sentimental, I wonder if any other husband devoted his whole life for his wife’s career as Sri TS did.

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The last line in your post says it all.

This should make the naysayers wonder...for whatever reasons of TS's own (others can come up with reasons of their own, oft their own). How could such a phenomenon happen but for him (and by God's endless grace)?

Eventually, here's someone who picked up and polished a gem and made it a bhAratha ratnA. Befitting the title in every ounce of her musical expression and very being, she lived that way to the very end. Yes, she was IT, but only in the hands of that devoted craftsman could she attain that shining glory :)

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Dear Sri. KVC & ARASI,
Having somewhat interacted over many years with the p[ersons in question I AGREE & AM GLAD YOU ARE WRITING ON THIS SUBJECT. Actually I contend it was the TRIO of TS, MS & RV that performed the MIRACLE OF THE CENTURY. VKV

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5k8g5MJ3nE - Sarasijamukhi Varnam in Arabhi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-qXbfvPe8Q - Prof.SRJ explains about this varnam.

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https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vt1o6e ... udio_Clips - A set of links of MS. Courtesy : Sangeetapriya.

Concert without Accompanists is before the commencement of a discourse. I think it is Paramacharya, whose voice is heard at the end. Can some one confirm !

Swarakalpana of Keeravani, Alapana of Simhendramadhyamam, Swaras @ the end of Malamalavagowla RTP are worth listening to.

RTP Bhairavi is with ragamalika swarams. Bhaja Govindam has a different ragamalika (atleast one I suppose) from what we normally listen.

Guruleka, Devi Jagatjanani, Jaya Jaya Padmanabha and Cheli Nenetlu are not so heard pieces in MS concerts.


Regards,
Aditya.
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It is in the midst of Anantharama Dikshitar's Srimad Bhagavatha pravachanam. He is about to describe the vaikunta darsanam to Parikshit. MS sings the stanza from the seond dasakam of Narayaneeyam describing the divine appearance of Vishnu as a prelude to Narayana Divya namam. MS-Kalki-Rajaji-Anantharama Dikshitar were a quartet that shared a bond to the bhakthi heritage.

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Thanks Chellappa Sir :)


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Thanks. There was mention of 200 odd concerts of MS. How do we access?

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I read, 'Einstein just had no sense of the absolute reverence there was for him.' That reminded me of MS.

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Have read in rasikas that MS has sung varnam in Anandabhairavi. Whose is it? Can some one tell me?

Thanks varsha garu for the Sankarabharanam :)

Regards,
Aditya.

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Aditto wrote:Have read in rasikas that MS has sung varnam in Anandabhairavi. Whose is it? Can some one tell me?

Aditya.
If you are thinking of Sami Nee Pai in Ata Talam, it is by Veenai Kuppayyar. Semmangudi used to sing it.

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KV.Chellappa apropo your post of the 26th October "refuting" the innuendos against TS Mama,kudos to you.

If MS amma had heard you in person expressing the sentiments that you eloquently posted,this is what she would have said:
Chellappa Sir(I take it it is your real name!!),UNGAL VAIKKU SAKKARAI PODANUM.

Very few people know HOW much Mama admired Mami's music--once in a marriage concert,I was sitting next to Mama--Mami was singing Shankarabharanam raga soulfully followed by Sarojadala Netri--when she was doing the neraval Samagana Vinodhini and traversing the higher octaves in full splendor and Bhakthi--Mama was focuused on her intensely--unmindful of the various "dignitaries"(it was a Chennai High Society wedding!!!!) being ushered and seated next to him\-- and turns around towards me and says in Tamil what sweetness in melody and soaked in Bhakthi and yet she is not aware how enchanting her music is. As I have mentioned in my earlier posts on Mami and Mama,Mami's #1 FAN was Mama, notwithstanding all the innuendos about how he controlled Mami.--YES he could be very harsh in the post-concert discussions (never in the Car while returning but only when after reaching Kalki Gardens) pointing out why some portions of the concert were needlessly elongated and the need for balance and restraint in the Neravals and swaraprastharas.It will end up in a gentle admonition that "Art is bigger than all of us"--ofcourse Mami will be disappointed why he did not point out what she did well but quickly console herself saying Mama sonnal sariyai than Irukkum"(If Mama says it will be correct!!)--no fake humility or "tokenism"!!!
I do not think TMK because of his age would have had the opportunity to analyse her personality,strengths and demeanour towards the audience-conoscenti and others alike!!.

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If you are thinking of Sami Nee Pai in Ata Talam, it is by Veenai Kuppayyar. Semmangudi used to sing it.
Thanks.

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Sri MKR sir, namaskarams. Thanks for your comments.

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Ramasubramanian.M.K.Sir,
I do not think TMK because of his age would have had the opportunity to analyse her personality,strengths and demeanor towards the audience-cognoscenti and others alike!!.
All of us are aware of the stories and gossip goes in private amongst the practitioners and also rasikas. TMK's observation and opinions must have been based on such stories and gossips in circulation and not purely his own imagination. Just like the stories and gossips, we can either accept or reject. My own personal observation on TS mama was 'Benevolent Dictator' with traits of 'perfectionist'.

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KVC Sir,
'Einstein just had no sense of the absolute reverence there was for him.'
Can't agree Sir. He was immensely popular, most sought after in elite social circles and his personal intimacy with female admirers (lovers) is well documented and published. Einstein was fully conscious of his status.

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Sir, I did not say it. I read in the book by Walter Isaacson, as said by one of Einstein's associates. Throughout the book, his humility comes through. Yes, he liked publicity and women. But, that does not seem to refute humility. Even his momentous discoveries, he acknowledges as culmination of the work of many that went before him. He says, 'Our existence depends on many other existences.' I get a different impression and am willing to believe in his humility.

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Have read in rasikas that MS has sung varnam in Anandabhairavi. Whose is it? Can some one tell me?

If you read this in one of my posts, then I was referring to the Anandabhairavi opus of ShyAma shAstri, that is almost extinct. This one goes 'sAmini rammanave I vELa' and is in ATa tAla, being a shRngAra composition on varadarAja of kANcIpuram. MS and rAdha learnt it, [and even went and sang it once before Vidya Shankar, to seek her stamp of endorsement for their interpretation of the song], but as I found out from Smt. Radha, they never sang it in any concert platform.

We have received the varnam in a somewhat incomplete form, with sAhityam for some of the sections, and absent for some. Also the text is corrupt in many places, and hasn't been much improved by Smt. Vidya Shankar's editorial pen. All these wrinkles aside, it is a grand melodic piece. This varnam has had some prevalence in old Mysore state, with it being part of the repertoire of the scholar-violinist R.R.Keshavamurthy and the musicologist R.SathyanarayaNa. The former may either have got it from the pradarsini, or may have learnt it from Sermandevi subrahmanya sAstri, a student of Subbarama dIkSita, who later lived in Mysore. Among current musicians, Smt. R.N.Srilatha - a sister of the Rudrapatnam brothers knows it.

The one harimau refers to - sAmi nIpai, is a different, nonetheless very beautiful varnam in the same rAga tAla combination. It is going strong, and continues to be performed now and then, being popular from at least three distinct lines - the version taught by TiruppAmburam SwAminatha Pillai, that taught by Dhanammal's grandchildren, and the version sung by SemmanguDi and his disciples. The fecund paramparA of Semangudi's disciples has led to his version being the most sung.

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If you read this in one of my posts, then I was referring to the Anandabhairavi opus of ShyAma shAstri, that is almost extinct
Thanks Keerti garu :)

I hoped there was some kind of audio recording available.
Apart from that, thanks a lot for the information on that piece of Syama Sastry.

I wonder how many compositions would turn up if we start listing down 'Unsung compositions'. If I had a genie lamp, I would ask for all MS Videos and enough extended life to see it all and die !! I just wish.. I just wish !!

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http://www.sangeethapriya.org/tributes/ ... ithis.html

List of SS Kritis from Sangeetapriya. The varnam is mentioned in the page and as said no available artist. :)

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I wonder if @cienu can help us then. Saving a varnam from extinction...

Speaking of which, now that rasikas pages are appearing on google, I was able to get this : http://www.rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11230

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The veena artiste's uniqueness stems from her having imbibed classicism from a profound source. Syama Sastri, great grandson of the composer, gave her treasures from his family wealth. Absorption was not easy. "His speech was unclear, he coughed all the time." For days Sastri would not go beyond a single line. Another day had him pouring out 10 compositions. The guru refused to allow any writing down of song or notation, saying, "You're studying Milton. Do you need to write down `Amba Kamakshi?' " The girl had to record her lessons surreptitiously.

Sastri talked about his ancestors of three generations, extraordinary composers all. "When Muthuswami Dikshitar heard Syama Sastri's `Devi Minanetri' sung by his son, he exclaimed that he had never known a more masterly handling of the slow tempo as in its charanam." Another day the guru would tell her that when Syama Sastri sang `Mayamma' at the Bangaru Kamakshi Amman temple, a frenzied listener grabbed the shawl on the idol and draped it around Sastri , seeing the goddess and her devotee as one.

Vidya also learnt `Devi Brova' (Chintamani) in the original setting where the phrases skip and leap in zigzag patterns, reflecting the disturbance in the composer's mind during its creation. "All have smoothed down in modern patanthara," she sighs.
Got the above text when I referred to Sree Vidya Sankar. This is deviating from the actual title, but can someone share her recordings if any ? Especially the Devi Brova in Chintamani :)

http://www.thehindu.com/arts/vainika-vi ... 493460.ece

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Oh and I have to add : I shared that tanam clip in post #55 thinking it was one of the last concerts of MS. Well, guess what? I think it was actually from her last concert at the Naganallur Anjaneya Temple. Someone confirm please.

Which means we have MS from her very first recorded LP to her last concert.

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SrinathK wrote:Oh and I have to add : I shared that tanam clip in post #55 thinking it was one of the last concerts of MS. Well, guess what? I think it was actually from her last concert at the Naganallur Anjaneya Temple. Someone confirm please.

Which means we have MS from her very first recorded LP to her last concert.
From her very first 78-rpm "plate" to her last concert

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ramamantra wrote:Who is he to even write about that great goddess?
Sometimes, I do get the feeling that it is possible MS is hyped. She never made a mark as an actress and so took up an easier concert singing career, maybe Sadasivam's idea. Again, she couldn't really sing traditional Carnatic very well (unlike pattammal) and finally made her mark with devotional singing, shlokams and bhakthi kritis. Thanks to the duo's closeness with top politicians, she got international and national opportunities.

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kolenidhi Sir,

Your opinion posted is grossly unfair. MSS Amma as young and immensely talented singer/performer resulted in her selection to act by the directors/producers. Films were devotional, theatrical and musical. Meera was a very big hit and catapulted MSS Amma to Pan India in popularity.
The tendencies and cultivated habit of comparison results in misunderstanding and it is misleading. Her devotional music content was for uninitiated rasikas, a vast majority and a significant numbers of rasikas needs for 'devotional' music. Through her manodharma sangeetham-ragaalapana; tana;compositions-patantara sudhatvam; niraval; pallavi;svarakalpana, both kalpita and kalpana aspects, this great maestro met the needs of discerning and pandita rasikas. Your observation and opinion, shared by many unfortunately, is focused only on the 'rise to popularity' but not on the 'rise to musical qualities' of this great maestro. To answer the opinion, reluctantly, three great maestros-DKP;MSS;MLV achieved popularity, with certain specific aspects and its musical qualities, higher level over the other, each of them.
It is a fact that without successful planning and promotion, Vidwan or Vidushi can not achieve popularity. Indirect, unseen and unheard promotion does not attract the attention and criticism but direct, seen and heard (in MSS Amma's case, her husband and Sri Sadasivam's) attract greatest attention and criticism. The ends, its outcome, its result delivery of pleasure to the rasikas and artistic self achievement, justify the means.

Can we end the misunderstanding and misleading belief with insights?

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A video clip that was received very well , here , a decade ( and more ) ago .
http://www.mediafire.com/watch/9zhdezxu ... aight..MPG

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kolenidhi wrote:
ramamantra wrote:Who is he to even write about that great goddess?
Sometimes, I do get the feeling that it is possible MS is hyped. She never made a mark as an actress and so took up an easier concert singing career, maybe Sadasivam's idea. Again, she couldn't really sing traditional Carnatic very well (unlike pattammal) and finally made her mark with devotional singing, shlokams and bhakthi kritis. Thanks to the duo's closeness with top politicians, she got international and national opportunities.

All these can be answered with a NO.

Srikanth sir, can you please invest some time and publish the results of MS music like you did for her Meera Bhajans and MMI's swarakalapana for Hindolam. Just my idea.

Ramesh Sir mentioned about an Hamsanadam alapana of MS which was recorded in a cassette long back in some memories of Kalki Gardens and MS's music. Unless such instances are listed about MS and recordings are shared, people will comment like this only.

There is this Manirangu of MS, which when played over phone to one of my friends who is a classical singer, she thought it was MLV because of I-do-not-what-it-is !! Might be the swarakalpana or I do not know. There is this concert of MS from early 60s or late 50s where in she sang Vatapi, Rama Nannu Brovara, Ksheerasagara Sayana Vakshatasala, Hemavati of Deekshitar, Rama Rama Guna Seema, RTP in Todi ... That concert is one of the marvelous concerts of MS which was uploaded in Sangeetapriya.

I wish I could myself do something to make people know what MS's music is about. Being a layman, I cannot do anything except searching for her music ( audio and video ) and getting lost in the soulful music without understanding the underlying technicality or complexity !!

When something is told about MS's technical virtuosity in handling a raga or a pallavi or any thing, people are attributing it to the niceness of the musician who said it !! It is like one doing all the nice work and the appreciation going to the person who said the work is nice !!

Regards,
Aditya.

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Such people have no idea what they are talking about and we need not take it up. It hurts only when someone who should know gives it an angularity.

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@munirao sir, A tip, always see a posters' history before replying to a "handle". Some "handles" are only here to blow up the place. MS amma is a legendary name whereas some "handles" are so inept they can't even wear a proper identity in places like this. Even alcohol can't loosen inhibitions like internet anonymity. :lol: :lol:

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KVC and SrinathK Sirs,

We are together discussing, sharing and caring for unity with diversity of beliefs and opinions. I care for the identity taken, its sense of mind, its expression, seriously not frivolously. I act and reply to share and contribute to establish the clarity and understanding to the best of my knowledge and ability. I avoid to be dismissive. It is unhelpful and unhealthy for discussions.
In this specific case, is the opinion or even set belief of an individual or set of individuals? No Sir, it is the ill informed and unfounded information and gossip amongst the musicians community and also their seconders, rasikas. Every interested individual should attempt sincerely to dispel the wrong notions and information, end the gossip and end the belief. If we achieve, this is truly humble homage to the great maestro artist with exceptional qualities and contributions of equally great human being in the history of Arts, in the MSSAmma centenary year and its celebration.

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Well said, Mr. Muni Rao. MS had a larger than life image as an individual with her sterling qualities which is not to dismiss her knowledge and mastery over classical music as trivial.
She was also one of the earliest woman artistes to venture into RTP. Later she chose to be more devotional in life which reflected in her music

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Just like how Einstein could not cut it as a mathematician and downgraded himself to theoretical physicist and then only to make some minor contributions.

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Since all of you replied to a troll post, I'll tell you what -- Don't answer to trolls. They're sick. Their intention is not to seek clarity but to simply provoke -- which is why I mention looking into their post history. In this case, it is far more than ill informed and ignorant opinion, it is a deliberate mental disease at work. They will not listen to you but just go and pollute other threads.

If anything, it will only show the difference between such lowlife (excuse me for the language, or don't) :twisted: and someone like MS Amma -- which I think also has to be pointed out.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/yo ... nd-sadists

And that's about as far as I can go before crossing a line -- kids may be reading... :lol:

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Re: MS Understood: essay in Caravan magazine by TM Krishna.

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SrinathK wrote:Since all of you replied to a troll post, I'll tell you what -- Don't answer to trolls. They're sick.
Case of troll trolling troll

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Re: MS Understood: essay in Caravan magazine by TM Krishna.

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Varsha garu or any rasika,

Can you share any recording of MS please which is not so often heard !!

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Re: MS Understood: essay in Caravan magazine by TM Krishna.

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Re: MS Understood: essay in Caravan magazine by TM Krishna.

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Here is kAnada varnam sung by MS Amma - haven't heard her singing this varnam before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHNqcWAxq8

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Re: MS Understood: essay in Caravan magazine by TM Krishna.

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varsha wrote:http://www.mediafire.com/listen/ag13ibt ... -Thodi.mp3

Like this ? Please let me know

Yes :D :D

Like them only...I have heard that she sang marivere dikkevarayya in shanmukhapriya, ra ra ma inti daka in asaveri, sugunamule cheppukonti , santamu leka .. any recordings?

I might sound selfish or very eager to lay hands on all MS songs, but when it comes to her, I am helpless :)
Sorry !
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Re: MS Understood: essay in Caravan magazine by TM Krishna.

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pattamaa wrote:Here is kAnada varnam sung by MS Amma - haven't heard her singing this varnam before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiHNqcWAxq8


Thanks pattamma garu...Since its upload in sangeethapriya with RTP in Dhanyasi, I have been listening to it as frequently as I can :)

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Re: MS Understood: essay in Caravan magazine by TM Krishna.

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MS Amma was also an incredible force at varnam singing -- the tempos she could reach were downright scary if you were to try and follow it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtayQialsJM

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Re: MS Understood: essay in Caravan magazine by TM Krishna.

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SrinathK wrote:MS Amma was also an incredible force at varnam singing -- the tempos she could reach were downright scary if you were to try and follow it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtayQialsJM

Hi Srikanth Garu,

Please analyze MS music as you did MMI's. I am eagerly waiting for it.

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