Jayachamaraja Odeyar (Mysore Maharajah) - Part II

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 17 Aug 2006, 07:18

<<Could we have elaborate recordings of vAgadhISvari please.>>

back to good old days of "trap shooting ":D

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 17 Aug 2006, 07:19

Good to see yo back and better. SO you are back to coolkarni from hotkarni.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 17 Aug 2006, 07:21

And get some gauruDadhvani lined up too.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 17 Aug 2006, 09:50

Wah rE wah!

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 17 Aug 2006, 10:52

http://www.bigupload.com/d=F625C0EF

ragam thanam and krithi by emani/msg/uks

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 17 Aug 2006, 23:18

cmlover wrote:Thanks RC!
I noticed your description has four faces, whereas the wikipedia description is five faced,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vamadeva

As per shaivAgama's kAraNAgama there are five forms of shiva:

1. sadyOjAtAmUrti @ West, four faced in white color.
2. vAmadEvamUrti @ North, four facesd in golden color.
3. aGOramUrti @ South, four faced in blue color.
4. tatpuruShamUrti @ East, four faced in golden color.
5. IshAnamUrti @ northeast, Five faced in white color.

As you can see, only IshAnamUrti is endowed with five faces.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 17 Aug 2006, 23:56

Next for discussion- SrI rAjarAjESvari- garuDadhvani, miSrajhampe tALa

Click here to download SrI rAjarAjESvari- garuDadhvani-miSra jhampe- oDeyar.wma

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 18 Aug 2006, 00:35

mAtu for SrI rAjarAjESvari
rAga- garuDadhvani; miSrajhampe tALa

SrI rAjarAjESvari SrI vAgISvari |
SRngAralahari SrI ramAmanOhari ||

SrIkara sthaLavAsini SritajanapAlini |
SRngagiri bhUSiNi SrI SailavihAriNi SrImati sarasvati sAramati sudati ||

kShIrasAgara mathanOdbhavE kanjadaLa nayanE |
suravara bRnda manOharE padmanibhapAdE |
vIrasamsEvitE EkAntE sOham bhAva pUjitE |
varalakShmi hiraNmaya rUpE hariNi SivavAmAtmikE ||
hiraNyAdi sarvagarbhasthE hara dEhArdhAnga vAsasthE |
tArakarUpE garuDadhvani bhUShitE haridrAkumkumArcitE ||

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 18 Aug 2006, 02:05

I have discussed 81 kRtis so far, out of oDeyar's 94. The list is here (thanks to Meena;s meticulous efforts)

Click here to download List of oDeyar kRtis discussed.rtf

Can someone post the list of kRtis NOT discussed yet? It will help Raja Chandra/myself/coolkarn or anyone else to ferret out those compostions for discussion next.

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 18 Aug 2006, 02:36

SrI amAmanOhari ||

DRS,
Is it 'SrI ramAmanOhari ll'?

I can't wait for your discussion:

Again, this seems to be addressed to the divine mother in all of her forms: rAjESwarI/hara dEhArdhAnga vAsasthE (pArvatI), vAgISwari/saraswati, as well as 'kshIrasAgara mathnOdbhavE'(lakshmi)....

Ravi

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 18 Aug 2006, 03:22

Notes on SrI rAjarAjESvari
rAga- garuDadhvani; miSrajhampe tALa

SrI rAjarAjESvari; SrI vAgISvari- The presiding deity of speech;
SRngAralahari- You Who are verily a stream of beauty/comeliness;
SrI rAmamanOhari- delight of rAma's heart.

SrIkara sthaLavAsini- You Who reside in an auspicious place;
SritajanapAlini- Protector of those who seek refuge in You;
SRngagiri bhUSiNi- You Who are the jewel of SRngagiri/SRgEri;
SrISaila vihAriNi- You Who sojourn in SrISaila;
SrImati- Auspicious one; sarasvati; sAramati; sudati- You with even and beautiful teeth;

kShIrasAgara mathanOdbhavE- You Who were born at the time of the churning of the milky ocean; kanjadaLa nayanE- Lotus-eyed One;
suravara bRnda manOharE- You who win the hearts of the mltitudes of dEvas/gods;
padmanibhapAdE- You Whose feet are like the lotus;
vIrasamsEvitE- You Who are served by the brave; EkAntE- The sole One/Absolute One;
sOham bhAva pUjitE- You Who are worshipped with the sOham feeling;
sOham is "sO aham" meaning "That I am" which is the advaita bhAva wherein the paramAtma and jIvAtma are one and the same;

varalakShmi; hiraNmaya rUpE- You with golden form; hariNi;
SivavAmAtmikE- You Who is the left half of ISvara;
hiraNyAdi sarvagarbhasthE- You Who are the soul of everything including brahma(hiraNyagar;
hara dEhArdhAnga vAsasthE- You Who live in half of Siva's body;
tArakarUpE- You Who is the redeemer of everyone(Literally one who takes across); garuDadhvani bhUShitE- You Who are adorned with the rAga garuDadhvani;
haridrA kumkumArcitE- You Who are worshipped with haridrA(turmeric) and kunkuma(vermillion.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 18 Aug 2006, 06:24

garuDadhvani is a sampUrNa- auDava upAnga janya of the 29th mELa, dhIra SankarAbharaNa. The scale is

SR2G3M1PD2N3S* | S*D,PG,RS ||

Its scale is essentially the reverse of bilahari. M and N are prominent and are elongated often. In the avarOhaNa, D and G are sung with a jAru from above which helps bring out the rAgabhAva and also makes it easy to sing. The rAga is not particularly easy to sing. It is a lively rAga and evokes hAsyarasa. It sounds like kannaDa in places.The rAga appears to have been brought to light by tyAgarAja thorugh his 2 compositions- "AnandasAgaram" and "tattvameruga taramA".

oDeyar has handled the rAga well with an elaborate kRti and tALa.

And now for some recordings

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 18 Aug 2006, 07:56

SrIkarasthaLavAsini
I think has a vishEShArtham. 'sthalavAsin' denotes 'sthaladEvatA' or the local deities or the grAmadEvatA. It is customary to have 'durgA' (rAjarAjEshvaari) as the guardin of roadside (sthala) as well as villages. shrIkara of course means her prowess of rendering the place auspicious.

as Shankar has stated, JC appears to have unified durga,lakShmi,sarasvatI!

Thanks RC for the clarification! (Do you have the pictures with the defining shloka for the other forms too? Pl post!

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 18 Aug 2006, 10:03

Here is a lovely kriti in Bilahai of JC
http://rapidshare.de/files/29817198/Iravsejarajar.mp3
The Bilahari comes out nicely out of the garuDadhvani.
What is in a language after all:)

coolkarni · Post by **coolkarni** » 18 Aug 2006, 20:16

http://quickdump.com/files/1761293562.html
trs-vvs-kmani-Tattvameruga-Garudadhwani.mp3

http://quickdump.com/files/1239022609.html
lalgudi-EMI NERAMU-GARUDADHWANI-ADI-GARBHAPURIVASA

mysore nagraj-edited and deleted

http://quickdump.com/files/1857423197.html
tkr--ANANDASAGARA-GARUDADWANI

and the piece de resistance

http://quickdump.com/files/709615730.html
tkr-msg-upendran-TATVAMERUGA.mp3

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 18 Aug 2006, 22:57

DRS,

aMkita nAma "srI vidya" is mssing in this composition !

CML,

Do you want me to post pictures with the defining shloka for the other forms as part of this thread ?

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 18 Aug 2006, 23:01

Yes Raja Chandra
I noticed that the mudre was missing. One of those few kRtis of odeyar's where he has not included it.

May I step in about the pics? I would rather you left the pics out of this thread.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 18 Aug 2006, 23:02

That is it RC!
I like to see the picture with the shlOka!
You may post them in a separate thread in deference to DRS's desire to keep the pages clean!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 19 Aug 2006, 00:11

TKR's "tattvameruga" is very nice. It clearly brings out the "Western lilt" to this rAga. IMO, oDeyar has explored this rAga and taken it further than has. Also, inspite of his western music leanings, this kRti of oDeyar's is very karNATaka sangIta. Also, "tattvameruga" is more western than AnandasAgaram

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 19 Aug 2006, 00:53

Next up- bhaja gOvindam in bhUpALa pancama, Adi tALa.

Click here to download bhaja gOvindam- bhUpAlapancama- Adi- oDeyar.wma

Very interesting and new rAga! ANd very interesting layout of tALa and sAhitya.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 19 Aug 2006, 01:10

mAtu for bhaja gOvindam
rAga- bhUpALa pancama; Adi tALa

;,bhajagOvindam bhUmipAlakam |
;,bhajaka manOratha pUrakam ||

;,bhujagaSAyinam bRndAvana vAsinam |
;,bhUpAla pancama prErakam ||

;,kuvalaya pIDAntakam Saurim vasudEva sutam ||1||

;,kucEla bhakta sEvitam lOka vandita caraNayugaLam ||2||

,kauntEya sArathim gItA brahma bOdhakam mukundam kamalalOcanam ||3||

kAmAdi bhanjanam SrI vidyA nilayam rAdhAramaNam kalidOShaharaNam ||4||

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 19 Aug 2006, 01:40

Part 1 of Notes on bhaja gOvindam
rAga- bhUpALa pancama; Adi tALa

bhaja gOvindam- sing praise of gOvinda;
bhUmi pAlakam- the protector of this world;
bhajaka manOratha pUrakam- Him Who fulfills the wishes of his devotees.

bhujagaSAyinam- Him reclining on a serpent;
bRndAvana vAsinam- Resident of bRndAvava;
bhUpAla pancama prErakam- Inspirer of the rAga bhUpALa pancama.

kuvalaya pIDA antakam- Him Who put an end to the woes of the world;
This refers to his daSAvatAras;Quoting the bhagavadgItA

yadA yadAhi dharmasya glAnirbhavati bhArataH
abyutthAnam adharmasya tadAtmAnam sRjAmyaham ||

paritrANAya sAdhUnAM vinASAyaca duShkRtAm |
dharma samsthApanArthAya sambhavAmi yugE yugE ||

Alternatively, kuvalaya can be split as ku+valaya meaning the "wicked/bad lot". This too leads to the same meaning. On a more personal level, it can refer to the difficulties or travails arising from wicked friends/bad company.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 19 Aug 2006, 01:41

Part 2 of Notes on bhaja gOvindam
rAga- bhUpALa pancama; Adi tALa

Saurim; vasudEva sutam- Son of vasudEva.

kucEla bhakta sEvitam- Him served by His devotee kucEla;
lOka vandita caraNayugaLam- Him with the feet worshipped by the whole world.

kauntEya sArathim- charioteer of arjuna, the son of kuntI;
gItA brahma bOdhakam- Him Who taught the bhagavad gItA;
mukundam; kamalalOcanam- the lotus-eyed One.

kAmAdi bhanjanam- Destroyer of kAma and other weaknesses;
The ari ShaDvarga or the 6 enemies within. Namely, kAma, krOdha, lObha, mOha, mada & mAtsarya.

SrI vidyA nilayam- Him Who is the abode of SrIvidyA/Who abides in SrIvidyA;
rAdhAramaNam- the lover of rAdhA;
kalidOShaharaNam- Him Who dispels all sins/sins of kali yuga.

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 19 Aug 2006, 02:05

drshrikaanth wrote:Part 1 of Notes on bhaja gOvindam
rAga- bhUpALa pancama; Adi tALa

kuvalaya pIDA antakam- Him Who put an end to the woes of the world;
This refers to his daSAvatAras;Quoting the bhagavadgItA

yadA yadAhi dharmasya glAnirbhavati bhArataH
abyutthAnam adharmasya tadAtmAnam sRjAmyaham ||

paritrANAya sAdhUnAM vinASAyaca duShkRtAm |
dharma samsthApanArthAya sambhavAmi yugE yugE ||

Alternatively, kuvalaya can be split as ku+valaya meaning the "wicked/bad lot". This too leads to the same meaning. On a more personal level, it can refer to the difficulties or travails arising from wicked friends/bad company.

I think 'kuvlayApiDAMtakam' here used as anvartha nAma for Krishna refering to the episode of killing of the elephant called kuvalayApIDa in Mathura, when he goes to Mathura from Brindavana.

-Ramakriya

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 19 Aug 2006, 02:30

ramakriya
The word here is kuvalayapIDA and not kuvalayApIDa.

But yes that is also one of the possible interpretations if we overlook the hrasva/dIrgha difference.

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 19 Aug 2006, 02:35

drshrikaanth wrote:ramakriya
The word here is kuvalay[ba[/b]pIDA and not kuvalayApIDa.

R K Srikanthan and R S Ramakanth are singing it as kuvalayApIDa, however.

-Ramakriya

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 19 Aug 2006, 02:41

ramakriya wrote:R K Srikanthan and R S Ramakanth are singing it as kuvalayApIDa, however.
-Ramakriya

Do they? To me it sounds like they sing "kuvalayapIDa" only although they pause after "kuvalaya".

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 19 Aug 2006, 17:13

Lakshman
Are there any other compositions in bhUpALa pancama?

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 19 Aug 2006, 22:40

Sri Krishna and his brother Balarama, had to pass through many a peril when they were brought to Mathura, the capital of King Kamsa to be slain. One such was the royal elephant KuvalayaÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Âpeeda which was driven furiously on them. On that occasion, it is said that Krishna dances a wonderful dance when he pulled out the tusks of the maddened beast and struck it dead.

I think kuvalaya pIdAMtakaM in the sahitya is to this episode !

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 19 Aug 2006, 22:46

Raja Chandra & ramakriya.
your points ae taken. As I stated earlier, some of the phrases offer themselves to many explanations. This indeed is the beauty of sanskrit and oDeyar's handling of it.

My point was only about the hrasva vs dIrgha akAra in here. The interpretation I have given will hold good whether the akAra is hrasva(laghu) or dIrgha(guru). ApIDa also means "hurting/causing pain". So kuvalayapIDA as well as kuvalayApIDa will both give rise to the meaning that I have given. No doubt oDeyar also had the elephant episode in mind as the kRti deals with kRShNa and many of his daring exploits.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 19 Aug 2006, 23:12

kuvalaya = blue lotus
pIDA = a garland for the head
antaka = border/boundary
kuvalayapIDAntakam = to him who wears a garland of bluelotus bordering his head

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 19 Aug 2006, 23:17

bhUpALapancama is a upAnga janya of the 39th mELa- dhAli varALi or jhAla varALi.
It is a vakra rAga. niSHAda is absent. Its scale is

SG1R1GM2PD1S* | S*PDMGRS ||

This is another rAga brought to light by oDeyar. Without his kRti, it would have been a mere scale in treatises. Several variant scales are mentioned for this rAga in R.R.Keshavamurthy's book. Although it can be placed under any of the first 3 mELas of the 7th (RShi) cakra, tradition places it under the 39th.

The rAga has an overwhelming stamp of SOka rasa. There is a hint of adbhuta when one jumps from dhaivata to ShaDja and back to the pancama below.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 19 Aug 2006, 23:22

As I mentioned intially, the layout of sAhitya vis-a-vis tALa is noteworthy in the kRti. The kRti starts as dESAdi tALa. The successive caraNas however start earlier on the tALa. The last caraNa starts on the sama and merges with the pallavi. oDeyar has done similarly in some other kRtis like "kamalAmbikE mAmava sadA" in nATa.

oDeyar humbly states that the rAga is inspired by the protagonist of the song- kRShNa. he does not claim the well-deserved glory himself.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 20 Aug 2006, 00:02

oDeyar humbly states that the rAga is inspired by the protagonist of the song- kRShNa

I didn't really get it! Could you expnad the subtle point!

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 20 Aug 2006, 00:08

May be he was conscious of the fact that he belongs to yaduvaMsha of lord kRuShNa and thus proudly attributes inspiration to his progenitor!

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 20 Aug 2006, 00:25

The only other composition on my list is:
Are re kshirasagara (lng)-Triputa-Govindacharya

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 20 Aug 2006, 02:33

cmlover wrote:
oDeyar humbly states that the rAga is inspired by the protagonist of the song- kRShNa
I didn't really get it! Could you expnad the subtle point!

Note the line in the kRti. bhUpAlapancama prErakam.

Thanks lakshman. is that a lakShaNagIte from sangraha cUDAmaNi and the tALa too(apart from the composer

? The words sound like it.

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 20 Aug 2006, 03:32

RC

The dynasty was established by Vijaya, who by some accounts came to Mysore from Dwaraka. Vijaya took on the name Yaduraya and ruled Mysore, then a small town, from 1399 to 1423

The above quote suggests that he is indirectly complimenting his ancestor.

Also 'bhUpAla pancama' means the fifth king who is (counting backwards)
(Mummudi) Krishnaraja Wodeyar III

Anything special about him?

Are the oDeyars yAdavAs?

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 20 Aug 2006, 11:40

Now posting SrIvidyE pAhimAm in lalita pancama

Click here to download SrIvidyE pAhi- lalitapancama- oDeyar.wma

The audio quality is not great, but a kRti for discussion nonetheless.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 20 Aug 2006, 11:41

Has someone got ready the list of kRtis not discussed yet? I would like someone to post before we complete discussing this kRti. You cannot all take it easy guys. Somebody must do the work.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 20 Aug 2006, 12:44

mAtu of ||SrIvidyE pAhi mudam dEhi||

rAga: lalitapancama ; AditALa

SrI vidyE pAhi mudam dEhi |
SrI rAjarAjESvari bhuvanESvari ||P||

ravicandrAdinuta caraNayugaLE |
avidyA mUlaharaNaSIlE bAlE ||
avibhakta bhaktapAlanAsaktE suguNabharitE lalitE ||AP||

nAmarUpAtItE SrIkAntE |
nAgalinga kuNDalISahitE |
nAmapArAyaNa suprItE |
nagarAjasutE nArada sannutE ||
kAmakalAsvarUpayutE sAgara taranga gambhIra dhvaniyutE |
kAmAkShItyAdi nAmAnkitE lalitapancama rAga tOShitE ||

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 20 Aug 2006, 21:43

DRS,

Hope this list is accurate.

84. ||gaM gaNapatE sadA namastE || rAga: nAgasvarAvaLi. tALa: KaMDatripuTa.
85. ||bhajarE rE mAnasa|| rAga: bhAnucaMdrikE. tALa: rUpaka.
86. ||shrI paMcamAtaMgavadana|| rAga: supradIpa. tALA: saMkIrNa tripuTa.
87. ||shrI cAmuMDEshvari|| rAga: ShaDvidhamArgiNi. tALa: Adi.
88. ||shrI cAmuMDEshvariM|| rAga: madhyamAvati. tALA: Adi.
89. ||pAhimAM shrI|| rAga: jayasaMvardhani. tALa: KaMDatripuTa.
90. ||vaMdE jagadaMbikE|| rAga: vasaMtabhairavi. tALa: KaMDaJaMpe.
91. ||paripAhimaM|| rAga: ShaNmuKapriya. tALA: mishraJaMpe.
92. ||paripAhimaM|| rAga: shuddhadhanyAsi. tALa: mishraJaMpe.
93. ||suvarNAMgi rAjamAtaMgi|| rAga: suvarNAMgi. tALa: mishraJaMpe.

Correct me if the numbering is wrong OR find the 94Th !!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 20 Aug 2006, 21:51

Thanks Rajachandra for compiling the list.
Its the same few of us that get to do things. It would be appreciable if others would take more interest and show more enthusiasm, if not intiative.

Now to find recordings.

meena · Post by **meena** » 20 Aug 2006, 23:50

RC thanks

After seeing DRS post last nite i sat to work on the list, just rechecked now, i too have only 93.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 21 Aug 2006, 00:13

Part 1 of Notes on ||SrIvidyE pAhi mudam dEhi||
rAga: lalitapancama ; AditALa

SrIvidyE; pAhi- protect; mudam dEhi- give me bliss/happiness;
SrI rAjarAjESvari; bhuvanESvari.

ravi candrAdi nuta caraNayugaLE- You with feet praised by the sun and moon;
avidyA mUla haraNaSIlE- You Who are able to uproot ignorance;
bAlE- You Who are ever young (nityaShODaSI);
bAlA (sahasranAma, 965)

avibhakta bhakta pAlana AsaktE- You Who are keen on protecting devotees that are united with you(a part of you, advaita);
suguNabharitE- You Who are filled with the best attributes and qualities; lalitE.

nAma rUpa atItE- You Who are beyond the barriers of name and form;
SrIkAntE- You Who are attractive and appealing/ You Who attract SrI tattva/
kAntA (sahasranAma, 329);kAnta ( triSati, 154);

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 21 Aug 2006, 00:14

Part 2 of Notes on ||SrIvidyE pAhi mudam dEhi||
rAga: lalitapancama ; AditALa

nAgalinga kuNDalISahitE
nAgalinga is oDeyar's guru in SrIvidyA. And that guru is kuNDalISa meaning the master of the kuNDalini vidye/yOga. And she is ever benevolent toward him(hitE).

nAmapArAyaNa suprItE- You Who are pleased by the repetion and chanting of your countless names;
nagarAjasutE- Daughter of the kimg of mountains; nArada sannutE- You Whose praise is sung by sage nArada;
kAmakalAsvarUpayutE- You Who also have the form of the expresson of desire;

kAmakalArUpA (sahasranAma 322)
tasya kAMESvarAkhyasya kAmESvaryASca pArvati
kalAkhyA savilAsA ca khyAtA kAmakalEti sA || (tripurA siddhAnta)

At the very heart of the bindu or centre of the SrIyantra is that which caused it to emanate. This is kAmakalA, consisting of the three bindus or potentials. One is red, one is white, and one is mixed. The red bindu is ova, the white bindu semen, and the mixed bindu the union of Siva-Sakti, the individual as potential SrIcakra.

sAgara taranga gambhIra dhvaniyutE- You with the sonourous/deep voice like that of the waves in the ocean;
kAmAkShI ityAdi nAma ankitE- You Who have the names of kAmAkShi etc;
lalitapancama rAga tOShitE- You WHo is pleased by the lalitapancama rAga.

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 21 Aug 2006, 00:54

94- SrI nAgalinga mahESvaram- vAcaspati.

Meena, does your list agree with Raja Chandra's?

Raja Chandra · Post by **Raja Chandra** » 21 Aug 2006, 01:01

DRS,

You are right on the 94th.

But i have another one:

bhuvanEsvari - mArga hiMdOLA-Adi TaLa ?

cmlover · Post by **cmlover** » 21 Aug 2006, 01:08

nAgalinga kuNDalISahitE?
beats me too! Can it be an ornament?
nAgakuNDalaM is what is popularly known as 'pAmbadaM' worn by 'old' women in TN!

drshrikaanth · Post by **drshrikaanth** » 21 Aug 2006, 01:15

Raja Chandra
I know there have been some differences in the number of kRtis that people have come up with. And the mArgahindOLa kRti is in the list too (only in name according to Sukanya Prabhakar). But since then it has been unearthed. So if you have the recording, lets discuss it. Now to find out which is the extra one. BTW I sent you an email.