DKP's rendition of Dikshitar kritis

savvysubu · Post by **savvysubu** » 05 Sep 2006, 22:57

Hi all,

I am interested in some listing of all Dikshitar kritis rendered by DKP.
Can I get such a listing anywhere?

Thanks

Subu

srkris · Post by **srkris** » 06 Sep 2006, 05:42

It is very likely she has rendered almost all known Dikshitar Kritis, but how can we be sure what she has rendered and what she has not? Maybe you are looking those that are available in the market? Even then I'm not sure anyone has a complete database of her commercial recordings.

Vocalist · Post by **Vocalist** » 06 Sep 2006, 08:54

There aren't a great variety of Dikshithar krithis rendered in her commercial recordings. There is a recording titled "Dikshithar Krithis", with "Sri Nathadhi", "Sri Guruguha", "Kamakshi", "Meenakshi", "Ranganayakam" & "Gajamba".

Other ones she has rendered in popular commercial recordings are "Parvathi Pathim", "Thyagaraja Yoga Vaibhavam", "Sri Subramanya", "Sri Sathyanarayanam", "Mamava Pattabhirama", "Manasa Guruguha", "Pahimam Ratnachala" & "Sri Ranganatham".

savvysubu · Post by **savvysubu** » 07 Sep 2006, 02:30

srkris wrote:It is very likely she has rendered almost all known Dikshitar Kritis, but how can we be sure what she has rendered and what she has not? Maybe you are looking those that are available in the market? Even then I'm not sure anyone has a complete database of her commercial recordings.

Hi all,

"How can we be sure what she has rendered and what she has not?". The only way to know is to start compiling a list of kritis known to be rendered by DKP. If you can recall what you have heard in the past, you can probably help add to the list. What is available in the market actually may or may not be of interest to me or you. If there is a song of interest that may not be commercially available, I may still be interested in getting it, if a recording is reachable.

No one has a complete database, but I think this may be one worth compiling.

Thanks

Subu

Vocalist · Post by **Vocalist** » 07 Sep 2006, 18:29

One krithi I forgot to add to my list above: "Dharmasamvardhani".

Lakshman · Post by **Lakshman** » 07 Sep 2006, 20:12

Besides the ones listed, I have recordings of bAlagOpAla, kanjadaLAya, sArasadaLa, sarasvatimanOhari, shrI subramaNyO, vishalAkSIm, cintaya mAkanda, saundararajam, mInAkSi mEmudam, kAmAkSi varalakSmi.

ts · Post by ts » 07 Sep 2006, 20:18

I have the following renditions of DKP, apart from the ones already listed.

Anandeswarena
Angarakam
Ehi Annapurne
Hariyuvateem
Kadambari Priyayai
Marakatha Lingam
Mayuranatham
Neelangam
Pahimam Ratnahcala
ParvatiPathim
Ramachandraya
Ranganayakam
Rangapuravihara
SanthanaGopala
Sarasadala
Sivakamipathim
Srivenkata
Srivenugopala
Subramanyena

inconsequential · Post by **inconsequential** » 09 Sep 2006, 09:29

according to a lec - dem by srI DKJ, smt DKP had learnt and polished over 250 krthis of srI dIkShithar to a perfect shine! Just for info...

regards

sangeetarasikan · Post by **sangeetarasikan** » 12 Sep 2006, 17:23

I am a great fan of Smt. DKP's straightforward, crystal-clear, soul-moving renditions. But I have heard that many of the Dikshitar kritis she rendered are of questionable authenticity. Of course this doesn't take away anything from her singing, but definitely adds value to those spurious kritis that pass off as Dikshitar's. Maybe that needs a separate thread!

inconsequential · Post by **inconsequential** » 12 Sep 2006, 20:05

sangeetarasikan wrote:But I have heard that many of the Dikshitar kritis she rendered are of questionable authenticity

Ya, her renditions are only as authentic as srI TL venkaTrAma iyer's or srI ambi dIkShitar's versions

unfortunate!

ignoramus · Post by **ignoramus** » 12 Sep 2006, 20:13

this looks a bit tricky now. would it by any chance mean, that ambi dikshitar's version itself is under doubt regarding authenticity?

venkatpv · Post by **venkatpv** » 12 Sep 2006, 20:24

sangeetarasikan,
please elaborate... which kritis are you talking about??

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 12 Sep 2006, 20:46

i am told that there are a variety of sources for spurious dikshitar kritis.

There is a group which believes that, 'subbarAma dIkshitar' composed a few kritis and put it into the SSP calling them dIkshitar kritis.

There is also this school of thought that there existed a kallidaikurichi factory which created a few of them.

Even ambi dIkshitar composing some kritis in the name of MD is being speculated.

However, it is all speculations and nothing authentic. most of them are informations passed thro' gossips.

inconsequential · Post by **inconsequential** » 12 Sep 2006, 21:13

dear all,

just for the records: my remark was supposed to be one of disbelief.
sri TL venkaTarAma iyer has been an acknowledged authority in dIkShitar krthis and smt. DKP has been credited with preserving what was passed on to her. Hence, the disbelief. Just to clear up the confusion (if any) that my post may have caused.

regards

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 12 Sep 2006, 21:16

A big sigh of relief:)

ninjathegreat · Post by **ninjathegreat** » 12 Sep 2006, 21:38

Kulkarniji and srkris once went to DKP's house and I remember there was talk about DKP's son/grandson requesting their help to convert the spools & tapes in their house to digital format.... That could be a trasure house

maybe coolji or srkris can enlighten us about that?

Ninja

kaumaaram · Post by **kaumaaram** » 19 Sep 2006, 17:31

All of you are aware that DKP had the privilege of learning music from the descendants of Sri Muthuswamy Dikshitar. She learnt it from the 4th descendant of MD. Sri Baluswamy Dikshitar was the 5th one and he was a vainika.

Kaumaaram

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 20 Sep 2006, 11:34

KaumAram,
The 4th descendant of MD is Ambi Dikshitar.

Interesting url on MD's sishya parampara http://www.geocities.com/m_v_ramana/dik_sish.html

Interview with Smt DKP , that touches a lot on Dikshitar
http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1616/16160670.htm

vs_manjunath · Post by **vs_manjunath** » 03 Oct 2006, 16:57

It's really nice to know that member TS has so many unheard songs of Dikshitar, sung by DKP. I would love to listen to these songs as I am fan of Dikshitar as well as of DKP. It would nice to know the address of TS and if it's Chennai, I would love to visit him and listen to these rare recordings.