T M Krishna in Kalasagaram, Hyderabad

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vimala
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T M Krishna in Kalasagaram, Hyderabad

Post by vimala »

Started off with Hechcharikagarara with alapana, Neraval and Swaram. And one will wonder If I tell you Vathapi was taken up in the midst of the concert. What is this? Are we going off the tradition our great masters have set in? Or once you are in the lime light, you get the freedom to do anything?

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Many Winters ago I had explained his antics as those of an adolescent trying out many faces - to find out which one suits him best .

Obviously the years have not made a difference . One can be wrong in Life on a few occasions . But one can be immature a whole Life .
Today I am more likely to describe him as an adolescent under these definitions . :devil: 8)

An adolescent in his round of joyless (musical ) promiscuity is no more a revolutionary than a pickpocket is a socialist.
He is merely taking adult prerogatives without taking adult responsibility. Taking without earning.

the word in italics is mine for this context.

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And one will wonder If I tell you Vathapi was taken up in the midst of the concert. What is this? Are we going off the tradition our great masters have set in?
Well, if it was mained and sung slowly, it will be very boring, but otherwise, indeed, hamsadhwani -- and vAtApi -- jolly well can come elsewhere of a concert with some AlApanai and maybe neraval instead of the "traditional" superfast swarams with a 50-Avartana kOrvai. Maybe the vinAyaka krti factor is there, but come on, does that will mean we can't sing a vinAyaka main at all! Not even shrI gaNapatini! That will be sad -- indeed, I feel mEru samAna had also better more often be mained than sung in the beginning because of the MMG factor.

But yes, singing such a popular kriti at one tenth the normal speed will make it extremely boring, tiring, patience-testing ... I've already seen that with jagadAnandakAraka!

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Firstly, I was waiting for someone from Hyd, to start a post about this kucheri..

It was the Inaugural day of the 43rd Annual Festival of Music, dance& drama of Kalasagaram. The sabha has a tradition of conferring the title of "Kalasagara" every year, to one or more eminent artiste(s) in recognition of their contribution. This year they felicitated T.M. Krishna garu. During the felicitation function, in his speech. TMK said, " he felt humbled......." Also, "that these days the artistes ( I understood as 'of younger generation') get such honours, awards and recognition more easily when compared to their earlier generations..."

I am not able to give a verbatim report of his speech. Perhaps some other rasika may be able to....
As is customary, there is a concert usually by the awardee..

And now, singing "vathapi" as the 3rd item... Yes it made many rasikas frown.... so many other comments such as "if he was an iyer will he do it? idhukku paadaamale irundhirukkalaam'' also was heard the next day, from the tidbits of conversations around in the venue..
I will try to post the songlist soon. We, the rasikas are tied-up quite a bit attending the series...
I am sure Revanth will post yesterday's Dr.Nityasree's concert details soon...

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Post by sureshvv »

A friend of mine who knows his carnatic music says that TMK's approach to presentation of raga and kriti is both pristine and traditional (No wayward alapana in the middle of swaras etc.). So may be the order of presenting kritis is his way of exploring the fringes. Seen in this light, I am tempted to cut him some slack.

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Post by mankuthimma »

Cmon Suresh . You know your Carnatic Music . And you jolly well now that there is more at the core , than at the fringe .

But Yes , if some artist has to take licences , who are we to say no . We can only explain away things . Like Matisse said once .

A picture must possess a real power to generate light and for a long time now I've been conscious of expressing myself through light . Or rather , in light. .

And BTW regarding cutting slack in CM ....
How many times have I ducked under the table when the likes of TRS and SRJ have ripped apart the Hindusthani Musicians , for the slightest of freedom they take . Such sarcasm . Such intolerance . Such an absolute poor opinion of everything that does not believe in the that perfect landing of the samam . :lol: It is not a thing of my choice or our choice or creation . It is of the CM fraternity's own making . That fraternity which sits like a Military Tribunal in concerts judging Music rather than enjoying Music .
The larger Issue is not whether an experiment should take place . Everyone knows that Controlling a Nuclear fission is far more difficult than starting one .
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(No wayward alapana in the middle of swaras etc.)
Ah, sureshvv! This is one of those things ... those who do sing them, I notice very easily, and those who don't, I fail to notice that they don't. In my observation, Malladi bros do that a lot!

Btw my preference is also strongly for not doing this! I also dislike spoiling kArvais in kritis with improvisations.

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Post by grsastrigal »

Singing kritis not in line with tradition is a custom for TMK. This has been discussed in detail in this forum. There are two sides of rasikas who agree and who don't.

He had done this in MA and also another concert I heard Anandha Bhairavi VarNam was taken as main and rendered for 45 minutes.

I believe in old traditional music.

This sort of review will not come in December since TMK is not going to give any concerts in any of the sabhas. Rasikas who want ADVENTURES will miss TMK. Rasikas like me will get bit RELIEVED.

All said and done, His BVB, Mylapore concert on the inaugural day was superb. TMK except the above said aberration, is a delight to listen.


SureshVV- Iam suprised by your statement. His concerts are of course, sometimes wayward and full of gimmicks but within the raga boundaries. He cannot control his own flow when rendering swarams sometimes.

Srikant- Iam equally surprised that MB will do that. They have never rendered any wayward alapana or neraval at any point of time. Their training under Sri.Nedanuri is impeccable.

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Rasikas like me will get bit RELIEVED.
And why, pray tell? Is there anyone who handcuffs you and drags you into TMK's concerts, whenever any is held?

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grsastrigal wrote:They have never rendered any wayward alapana or neraval at any point of time.
I think I have been misunderstood. What I was calling "wayward" was doing litlle mini alapanas in the middle of swaraprasthara, which some artistes like to do for aesthetic effect. I kinda like it but was told that it is not really kosher and the practice is frowned upon in traditional circles.

PS: Now hoping this post does not engender a debate on the word *kosher* :-)

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mankuthimma wrote:And you jolly well now that there is more at the core , than at the fringe .
Absolutely. And from what I hear, TMK is quite the traditionalist at the core and his "experimentation" is limited to the fringe.
for the slightest of freedom they take . Such sarcasm . Such intolerance .
Totally understand! Only wanted to sound a note of caution so we don't fall victim to the same thing.

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Post by revanthv552 »

I did not attend this concert but heard of the song list. Few of my friends who attended the concert told me that I did a wise thing by not coming to the concert! However I heard he sang O Jagadamba as the main piece, The concert also included Ninne Nammi. I heard that Thodi alapana was outstanding. However wish someone gives a detailed review about the concert!

@Sivakami,
Will give a review about Nithyasree's concert today evening! It was a wonderful concert and was thoroughly enjoyable, Ranjani Gayatri will be performing on Dec 2nd, and Ponnamal on Dec 3rd. Cant just wait to listen to them!!

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Post by bilahari »

OK. You Hyderbadis have a Parassala Ponnammal coming up who can singlehandedly make you forget your misgivings, so don't fume! :) And TMK's experimentation with the paddathi is well known and documented everywhere in this forum - so if you are a purist, avoid! As simple as that (well, to me...).

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grsastrigal wrote: Rasikas who want ADVENTURES will miss TMK. Rasikas like me will get bit RELIEVED.
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Any sort of adventure should be within the confines of the tradition. As somebody has mentioned in this thread a musician is not entitled do anything since he is popular. IT is no wonder if he starts one of his concert with "Neenama rupamulaku".

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Before we shout ourselves hoarse and this thread dead, shall we have a review (a song list at least) of this kucheri?

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bilahari wrote:OK. You Hyderbadis have a Parassala Ponnammal coming up who can singlehandedly make you forget your misgivings, so don't fume! :)

Seriously Bilahari! I am waiting eagerly to listen to her :)

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Post by ranjanimalavi »

Just FYI. I am not trying justify any view.

In one concert KVN, says he doesn't get to elaborate Hamsadhwani, as it is always sung at the beginning of the concert. So he does an elaborate alapana, and sings Vathapi.

In another concert Nedunuri says he doesn't get to sing a relaxed Suruti, and sings Sri Venkatesa Girisham,
with a beautiful alapana, neraval, and swaras.

I am not TMK's fan boy. But I heard him sing viriboni as the main, singing javali in the beginning, and national anthem etc.

How does it matter what order it is sung, as long as its good?
Its my view.
I don't think even TMK will sing mangalam at the beginning. I think its taking it too far.

Many of his concerts thread also keeps growing as we keep discussing about it.

Raman

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In another concert Nedunuri says he doesn't get to sing a relaxed Suruti, and sings Sri Venkatesa Girisham,
with a beautiful alapana, neraval, and swaras.
So is surutti officially a post-main, AlApana-only rAga? That's TERRIBLE! ;( It has scope to rival the likes of sAvEri!

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Post by mankuthimma »

How does it matter what order it is sung, as long as its good?
You have missed the basic point . The names you quote did not keep doing that repeatedly . Unless you have access to many concerts in which they keep doing this .
As a one-of occasion , it does not need scrutiny . But when it keeps repeating then we listeners start thinking if he is trying to make a point , and if yes -- what is that point ? -- and so on the discussions continue.

I am not a big fan of the Kutcheri paddhathi myself but I know all pleasant endeavours grow methodically upto a point and then descend slowly to a conclusion - whether it is a mystery thriller , a classic movie , a well written thesis , or a carnatic Music concert .
It is not a criticism that we make , since we have the choice of not attending - as srikanth says.
And in a age where Creativity has ceded so much of space to Technology and standardisation , his efforts are definitely not out of touch with the needs of the day .

Make an inventory of all the experiments that have sustained over the last four decades - just as an exercise - and one will come to the conclusion that the CM Paddathi sits on a huge boulder , which can only be chiselled away at . But not moved.

And make an inventory of the things that are crying out to be finished - The unfinished works of the past and there we have a good contrast .
Amen :lol:

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Post by narayan »

Like srikant1987, I would at least like to know what it was that T.M.Krishna sang. The opening post does mention something, but then quickly moves to an opinion on what was done. Like we expect a concert pattern, I suppose even in our rasika comments, we should first say what was sung and then give our opinion!

But jumping ahead myself, since I do not believe in the concert paddhati, I feel that an artiste in the limelight should have complete freedom to experiment. We should trust his/her judgement completely and even allow a couple of false starts and retractions. That is the only way something new and worthwhile will evolve. If a person in the limelight does not try it, who is going to? You and me? That will hardly make any impact!

Almost all the worthwhile music that we hear (of the old masters) came because someone was willing to stick his/her neck out and willing to try something. The people who spoke ONLY about the great tradition and their gurus went up to a point, perhaps sustained something (very commendable). But the surutti and the stirring music that we remember did not come by doing only that. Unless we provide some room for experiments and even mistakes, we will not move.

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Post by ganeshkant »

Ranjanimalavi,

Hamsadhwani RTP is not that uncommon.I have heard one by TMT in MA in DEc'85.
Surati main has been taken by some musicians;the one that I remeber is by Bombay Jeyasri @ Nagpur in '94.KJY is famous for handling Hamsadhwani in detail.I don't understand what made KVN & NKM make that staement.

We humans only created gods,given them names and an order of appearance.I don't think Pillaiyar is going to descend and pick up a fight with TMK.Spiritually speaking the different names with which we call the so called gods is not of any relevance than showing our own immaturity.So seeing from that perspective, a song on Ganapati in the middle doesn't pose any problem for me.

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Post by sandhyashree »

Hi all !!

I did attend the concert of Shri T.M.Krishna. With due respects to the artist, i wondered why he didnt sing svarakalpana for the main item and also why he didnt sing svarakalpana in the second speed after an elaborate Ninne namminAnu in Todi??...though the rAga was sung very briefly..

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I did attend the concert of Shri T.M.Krishna. With due respects to the artist, i wondered why he didnt sing svarakalpana for the main item and also why he didnt sing svarakalpana in the second speed after an elaborate Ninne namminAnu in Todi??...though the rAga was sung very briefly..
Why didn't Kishan say "Good morning" to me today? Why did Toney suddenly send an email today? Couldn't he just come over and talk? Why did Akhila not speak to me on phone and said she'll talk later instead? Oh, with due respect to all of them!

For heaven's sake, could you TELL something about the concert instead of HOWLING and CRYING about it, as if everyone else has also attended the concert?!

You can probably email TMK and ask why he did what he did and why he didn't do what he didn't do.

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i know Kishan and Toney . But Who is Akhila ?

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Shri srikant1987,

What is howling and crying abt the post?? I am sorry i didnt get you.

I was only mulling over the concert pattern of Shri T.M.Krishna..no offence meant. i think a lot was said abt what he sang...

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Here is the list:
1.Hecharikaga rara-Yadukula Kambhoji
2.Ninne namminAnu-Todi-Mishra chapu
3.Vatapi-Hamsadhwani-Adi talam
4.Raga sudha rasa-Andolika-Adi talam
5.Manasa sancharare-Sama-Adi
6.O jagadamba-Anadabhairavi-Adi
7.Sagara shayanavibho-Bageshree-Adi talam
8. Jagadodharana-Kapi-Adi talam,followed by a couple of items by which time we had to leave.

There might me some errors in the order. Excuse me for the same !!

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[Why didn't Kishan say "Good morning" to me today? Why did Toney suddenly send an email today? Couldn't he just come over and talk? Why did Akhila not speak to me on phone and said she'll talk later instead? Oh, with due respect to all of them!]
It is not all that easy to push away the subject. We pay for these concerts and attend to get to listen to a good concert in line with any other good artistes' concert. TMK cannot keep experimenting and I don know when he will settle with a his style of experimenting and get to give what the audience want. At least this is expected out of a chenniate singer when Hyderabadis invite him for a concert. Pl don think hyderabadis are laymen.
yes he sticks to tradion once he starts his alapana or swaras, but listing that too in order, also makes a difference.
Anyway the concert is over and was thrusted upon Hyderabadis, that all artistes from Chennai are bound to perform well.

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Just go to the concert by Parassala Ponnammal and enjoy a concert by an authentic disciple of Semmangudi Srinivasa Iyer.

She is not out to prove anything to anybody. She is content to sing as if to say, "This is music as I I have been taught. Take it or leave it." There is no arguments at the end of the concert about why she did what she did, like we have here.

It may have taken the world 5 decades or more to discover her but that has been our loss only.

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Thimma, Akhila is Srikant's sister :)

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cant anybody who went for the concert provide the song list yet?

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Anyone here likes a Parasala concert of two decades vintage , sung at Hubli ?

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bilahari wrote:Thimma, Akhila is Srikant's sister :)
Thanks . :P I see that I am already obsolete in this thread.

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Anyone here likes a Parasala concert of two decades vintage , sung at Hubli ?
Me!

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mankuthimma wrote:Anyone here likes a Parasala concert of two decades vintage , sung at Hubli ?
Me too!! But, don't upload in this thread, may be in vidwan/vidhusi );-

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Me three! And yes, NOT in this thread!

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OK OK . Not in this thread . I Myself like TMK very much . Only that I like CM more !!
I am more prone to believe Edward Steichen's words

Every true should begin with a blank canvas. It is only a photographer who begins with the finished product. Maybe i am old fashioned .

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sandhyashree wrote:
There might me some errors in the order. Excuse me for the same !!
:lol:

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MLV sang Hamsadhwani in the middle of a concert many times

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ya of course Dr. MLV amma , had sung an RTP in Hamsadavani? In TMK's concert, it is not the question of singing Hamsadvani in the middle, the discussion is whether the krithi 'vatapi' could be sung as third or fourth item in a progamme.

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We are really starting to go around in circles here ... if the objection is to singing Hamsadhwani late in the concert, the example of MLV and others singing RTP should hold water in the argument here. If the objection is to singing a kriti on Vinayaka late in the concert, there are abundant examples - offhand, I can think of SSI (Gajavadana - Todi), GNB (Maha Ganapathim - Todi), TVS (Lambodaram Bhavaye - Kambhoji), TNS (the Malahari RTP) - which go on to show that this is also not a new trend. In fact, I remember a concert listing of MBK, which had the mangalam addressed to Vinayaka!

Incidentally, in the concert in question here, it is not about TMK having sung Vatapi late, but about singing an elaborate Alapana, Kriti and Swaram as the first piece.

There is a reason ARI had a varnam as the first piece. In his lec-dem on katcheri paddhati, KVN talks about how ARI would use the varnam to warm up, and more importantly, check his own voice quality that day to make sure that what he sang for the rest of the concert was something he could execute THAT day. If TMK is confident of his own voice to be able to pull off a major alapana and kriti first up, what is wrong?

Not that TMK would resort to quoting precedents, but this is not the first time something like this has been attempted. In the DVD on GNB, Palghat Raghu talks about a specific concert where his mridangam gave way after the first piece. To give him time to get his spare tuned up, GNB is said to have launched in an elaborate Bilahari alapana as the second piece, after a brisk varnam, and is reportedly said to have told PR when he went thank GNB for covering up for him, "Is there any law that I cannot sing a big alapana this early in the concert?". TRS is known to have started concerts singing a Tanam or a Javali, just to push the envelope. I am sure there are more such examples that other rasikas can point out.

It is the nature of a good artiste to evolve from the currently accepted norms. Sanjay tries singing RTPs in small or very hindustani ragas (Nilamani, Jonpuri, HamirKalyani, Patdeep etc) and recently, in a concert in Bangalore, he took up Todi for RTP, but instead of one pallavi, he sang three different pallavis after the Tanam - one Khanda Triputa-4 Kalai, two Charusra Triputa-2 Kalai and three Tisra Triputa-1 Kalai. Is that a criminal offence? :)

Again, there are statements about "thrust on us", "we are not laymen" etc. No one could have forced anyone to attend (forget pay and attend) TMK or any concert. Vote with your feet folks, rather than your pen or your purse!

Giving the audience what they want all the time is what is called playing to the gallery - AS's snake dance song; all the lady singers singing Kurai Onrum Illai; everyone singing Karpuram Narumo; everyone and their uncles singing Maadu Meikkum Kanne; everyone, their uncles and the uncles' mothers-in-law singing Theerada Vilayattu Pillai!

Tradition is not just about the order of pieces in a concert. The very touch and feel of ragas does change. Does the GA in Saveri always have to be oscillated? Not so, as per TRS and he talks about Musiri asking his students to try and sing Saveri with a plain GA, before moving on to the oscillated one. Does PurviKalyani always have to start from GA and quickly have a downward sweep? Again TRS talks about GNB saying he will start the alapana from DHA, touching the Tara Sthayi SA before descending to the GA. I am also reminded of TRS's lec dem on Patantharam, where he talks about GNB humming some uncommon / unfamiliar phrases in Saveri, when they were generally talking before a concert. When TRS asked him to sing that in the concert later in the day, GNB is supposed to have said "Ayyo! When I sit on the stage, the same Bhajanai Sangeetham comes out every time!This is meant only for our enjoyment." How unfortunate for us that he felt he could not take us rasikas with him on that exploratory journey, not because he didn't have the vision or the ability to execute, but because of his lack of confidence in our willingness to go with him on the ride!

In a recently released Charsur concert, TMK has sung Bhairavi alapana and Balagopalam with a very different feel, with a preponderance of Sudhha DHA. He says that this how the kriti is notated in the SSP, and how the raga lakshana is also given. Now, who is in "violation" of tradition - TMK, because he is singing it differently from how we have heard the past legends singing, or the past legends, because they sang it differently from what is arguably the most authentic notation of Dikshitar's compositions? Does it even matter?

We as an audience seem bound by what we have heard. How will we evolve (and as a result the art evolve) unless the artistes give us something we have not experienced before? And as with any experiment, some are bound to fail, some will stick around, and a precious few will become the new norm!

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Post by bhavarasa »

Concur with KSJaishankar.

Another example is that of mAyE tvam yAhi in Tarangini. Almost all artists sing it in senjurutti (jenjhuti). One of the few who sang it in the original Tarangini was Shri. B. Rajam Iyer. And the uninformed rasika was heard commenting that "that's not the way to sing mAyE". Well, actually, it was and still is the right way to sing Tarangini.

As far as TMK's experimentation with ordering goes, I say, more the merrier. Today's kutcheri format wasn't given to us by the Gods. It was Ariyakudi (though some might regard him as one ;-) who for the most part established that. So what's wrong in tinkering with it?

Shri. DKJ used to say, "pazhasa otti pannara pudhu vishayangalukku ennikkume nalla varavErppu irukkum". It's not as if TMK is singing Jazz or Rock in the middle of a Carnatic concert. So, lay off him, people!

Sabaash
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Re: T M Krishna in Kalasagaram, Hyderabad

Post by Sabaash »

I think Sri Jaishankar has a few valid points.

But pls excuse me for pointing out a small issue... ( irrelevant to this whole discussion or what Mr. Jaishankar has said ).

"offhand, I can think of SSI (Gajavadana - Todi)"

I think Sri.Jaishankar has made this reference regarding rendering of kritis on lord ganesh in as the 4th or 5th item in a concert. I humbly point out that this kriti is on Lord Muruga.

" Gajavadana Sammodhitha Veera Gajavalli Ramana"

And the charanam ends as
"Vaagvilasa karthikeya guhavara"

annamalai
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Re: T M Krishna in Kalasagaram, Hyderabad

Post by annamalai »

Bale, Sabaash.

Many examples of Maha Ganapathim Vandhe - Thodi - MD has been sung by musicians as (R,S) in the middle of a concert - Madurai Mani Iyer, GNB and many more. KVN used to sing Siddhi Vinayakam - Shamukapriya - as the 3 or 4th item - Nice Prathimadhymam raga choice instead of the usual Pantuvarali - Appa Rama Bakthi, Ninnu Nera Nammi ...

Hastivadanaya Namasthubyam - Navroj has been sung as a thukkada item at the end of a concert and Ganesa Kumara - Senchurutti is also sung at the end of a concert.

KSJaishankar
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Re: T M Krishna in Kalasagaram, Hyderabad

Post by KSJaishankar »

Sabaash wrote:I humbly point out that this kriti is on Lord Muruga.

" Gajavadana Sammodhitha Veera Gajavalli Ramana"

And the charanam ends as
"Vaagvilasa karthikeya guhavara"
Mea culpa ... point taken sir.

weird.world
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Re: T M Krishna in Kalasagaram, Hyderabad

Post by weird.world »

order does not matter ?? Then why not we have curd rice first and then have sambhar sadham ? or should I say .. why don't you start a concert with mangalam ? Or Dress like a superman in ULTA PULTA manner ??

People who beat their chest saying I stick to traditional aspects of music never stick to the traditional way! And we continue to support all gimmicks. People should grow up!

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