Bombay Jayashri

Carnatic Musicians
bilahari
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#26

Post by bilahari » 03 Feb 2009, 04:13

vpadmana, how did Smt. DKP explain this? Could you elaborate please?
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Post by Shivadasan » 03 Feb 2009, 07:15

Dear vpadmana,
Carnatic Music can be appreciated at various levels according to the knowledge, experience and interests of the listener

Lay persons - appreciation of tunefulness rhythmic patterns
Acquainted with ragas & kritis - Happiness in recognising of ragas and kritis and remembering earlier experiences
Experienced listener - going into raptures over good rendition, sticking to tradition etc.
Knowledgeable listener - keenly watching technical features and expertise of the artist in handling difficult portions
Performing musician - Appreciating the level of expertise of the musician in maintaining purity, exploring fresh approach to ragas and laya, ability and expertise in performance, stage presentation etc.
Listeners involved in Bhakti - All the above experiences will be increased several folds in each of the category.

One can very well enjoy without being a believer. The experience would be limited. That is all .

How can any one state with certainty that Bhakti or any other factor is essential to appreciate CM ?
Shivadasan
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Post by vpadmana » 03 Feb 2009, 21:23

Dear Shivadasan,
If you read my post carefully, I did not claim that Bhakti is essential to appreciate CM. I chose my words carefully and deliberately. I said "full" appreciate, not just appreciate. I said "I think" there is a mystical level of appreciation that one gets.

I am not stating things in black & white; more like shades of gray - and with good reason. I absolutely know how personal some of these emotions are and that there's no right or wrong answer to the question.

Regards,
Venkatesh.
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Post by vpadmana » 03 Feb 2009, 22:07

Dear Bilahari,

I will try and narrate to the best of my memory (there are portions in Tamil, hope you don't mind).

It was a very interesting experience. I was visiting her (I am related through marriage) a few years back in Kotturpuram. Ishwar Iyer mama was sitting outside reading Hindu paper. After paying respects to him, I went inside to meet Pattammal (everyone fondly calls her that - from the very young to the very old).

After pleasantries were exchanged, she asked me if I was still singing and practicing my violin. I said, Yes. So she asked me to sing a song. I chose to sing Shri Mutthuswami Dikshitar’s Kamakshi Shree Varalakshmi in Bilahari (as in your id ;-).

She listened very carefully, nodding her head from side to side and gently keeping talam with her hands. There was a subtle smile on her face when I missed a sangati and an appreciative nod when I got a complex gamakam right.

At the end, she asked if I understood the meaning of the song. I said that I understood the meaning to a large extent. She asked what I was thinking about when I was singing and I said, "Honestly, I was thinking about how not to make a bad mistake in front of you!"
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Post by Shivadasan » 04 Feb 2009, 07:34

Dear vpadmana,

Your experience with DKP is moving. Thank you for posting it.

The comment on Bhakti was included my post just as a general statement. I had been following the TMK threads and had been wanting to make a comment on that and it happened in the present instant ! It had nothing to do with your statement. I sorry for creating a misunderstanding.
My experience is similar to yours. I feel that bhakti can come to us only if Divine Mother turns her Grace on us.
Regards, Shivadasan
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Post by sramaswamy » 05 Feb 2009, 02:43

Translating the following for the non-tamil members .....

[quote="vpadmana"]Dear Bilahari,

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To this, she replied, "nee kamakshi ya dhyAnichindu pAdinA sangati thAnA varum. atha patthi nee kavalai pad vEndiyathu illai. TL Venkatrama Iyer thAn yenakku intha pAttta solli kudutthAr. appa nA ithe thAn panninEn. avar sonnAR, kAnchipuratthula irunthundu nee yEn kAmAkshi ya dhyAnichindu pAda mAttEngara? aduttha tharava nA manasula kAmAkshiya dhyAnichindu pAdinEn, Venkatrama Iyer ku kannula thanniyE vanthudutthu. Yethukku sollavarEnnA, yenna namba sAdhagam pannAlum, bhagavAna dhyAnichindu pAdinA, athOda tripthiyE thani."
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#32

Post by bilahari » 05 Feb 2009, 02:49

vpadmana, thank you for recounting your meeting with DKP. She does have a very good point!
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Post by vpadmana » 05 Feb 2009, 02:54

Dear sramaswamy, thanks for posting the translation.
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Post by prashant » 06 Feb 2009, 14:50

[quote="vpadmana"]
To this, she replied, "nee kamakshi ya dhyAnichindu pAdinA sangati thAnA varum. atha patthi nee kavalai pad vEndiyathu illai. TL Venkatrama Iyer thAn yenakku intha pAttta solli kudutthAr. appa nA ithe thAn panninEn. avar sonnAR, kAnchipuratthula irunthundu nee yEn kAmAkshi ya dhyAnichindu pAda mAttEngara? aduttha tharava nA manasula kAmAkshiya dhyAnichindu pAdinEn, Venkatrama Iyer ku kannula thanniyE vanthudutthu. Yethukku sollavarEnnA, yenna namba sAdhagam pannAlum, bhagavAna dhyAnichindu pAdinA, athOda tripthiyE thani."
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#35 Re: Bombay Jayashri

Post by rajeshnat » 18 Jul 2010, 21:13

Bombay Jayashri reviewed by SVK whose favourite is always sadguru thyagarAja
http://www.hindu.com/fr/2010/07/16/stor ... 390400.htm
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#36 Re: Bombay Jayashri

Post by venkatakailasam » 30 Apr 2011, 15:54

'E'-SWARA-07-Mumbai Jayasree - Engu nan selven ayyah-Dwajanthi
click on the image-You can hear the song.

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' 'E'-SWARA-05-Mumbai Jayasree - Thottu Thottu pesa varan-Behag -
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#37 Re: Bombay Jayashri

Post by venkatakailasam » 30 Apr 2011, 20:22

The song kAmAkSi-varalakSmi--bilahari referred to above rendered by Shri DKJ can be listened here at post #149

http://www.rasikas.org/forum/viewtopic. ... &start=125

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#38 Re: Bombay Jayashri

Post by rajeshnat » 03 Mar 2012, 09:59

A week before there were lots of ads for this concert , like 5 days to go, ... 3 days to go, 1 day to go. I was wondering about the concert , here is the review of BJ's concert.
http://www.thehindu.com/arts/music/article2949793.ece
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#39 Re: Bombay Jayashri

Post by rajeshnat » 10 Aug 2012, 14:34

hmmm ...the gamut of musical experiences
http://www.thehindu.com/arts/music/article3746093.ece
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#40 Re: Bombay Jayashri

Post by venkatakailasam » 10 Aug 2012, 17:47

Here is another interview by her...

I am always going to be a rasika: Bombay Jayashree....

http://www.dnaindia.com/lifestyle/inter ... ee_1716475

She is a melodious singer over which there is no doubt..

Whether she she loves God or Raga or wants to be a rasika....we always love her music..But what she has done for rasikas?

Are there any concerts of her available for us..for free..??

Her name does not appear in Sp archives...which were removed on her request..if I remember correct..

I do have some of her songs possibly downloaded earlier to her request for removal..

I am not sharing them..

She is more commercial minded..no offense meant..

There are some songs here from an album..

http://ww.smashits.com/collections-of-b ... -7130.html
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#41 Re: Bombay Jayashri

Post by rajeshnat » 07 Nov 2014, 07:31

May be one can hear music in dance , how can one see music - perhaps only in internet forums
http://www.thehindu.com/features/friday ... 570678.ece
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#42 Re: Bombay Jayashri

Post by rajeshnat » 02 Nov 2018, 16:03

Bj and abhishek are pairing and performing in november fest. Writeup on nov 02 2018

https://www.thehindu.com/november-fest/ ... epage=true
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