Nagagandhari
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The song of Sri Dikshithar, " Sarasijanabha Sodari" is in the above raaga. However, when I am playing this song, I get this feeling of being in "Jonpuri". Is there a connection or it is just my imagination ? If there is one, however remote, could some one please provide the arohana/avarohana for both the raagas?
What are the other songs in the raaga Nagaghandari ?
Appreciate your comments.
Regards
Sam
What are the other songs in the raaga Nagaghandari ?
Appreciate your comments.
Regards
Sam
Last edited by Sam Swaminathan on 19 Jul 2007, 09:48, edited 1 time in total.
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sam,
Please refer to only tyAgarAja kRti in nAga gAndhAri -
http://thyagaraja.sulekha.com/blog/post ... vam-12.htm
Please refer to only tyAgarAja kRti in nAga gAndhAri -
http://thyagaraja.sulekha.com/blog/post ... vam-12.htm
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Hi SAM'
Jone Puri is known as jevan puri- (jan.of 20th mElam(20)th naTabhairavi with IST VERSION: SA RI MA PA DA NI SA
SA NI DA PA MA GA RI SA
2ND VERSION:SA RI GA MA PA DA NI DA PA SA
SA NI DA PA MA GA RI SA
3RD.VERSION SA RI GA MA PA DA NI PA SA
SA NI DA PA MA GA RI SA
aLL THE ABOVE VERSIONS ARE BY RANGIAH OF MYSORE
Ref:Ragam Pravagam by D.Pattammal
You may notice that In all the versions the uttarangam is one and the same(as of NataBHAIRAVI) That is the reason why it tends prsent a Naaga Ghandhari tinge and that too due to the fact that one of the versions (as per Sangeetha Ragak kaDal of mahadevan the uttarangam for NaagaGhandhari is nothing but NaTabhairavi.
It is therefore better to adopt the popular phrases in the sAhityam and as far as possible avoid the uttaranga of both Nagaghandhari and jevanpuri (jonepuri)
Ramaraj
Jone Puri is known as jevan puri- (jan.of 20th mElam(20)th naTabhairavi with IST VERSION: SA RI MA PA DA NI SA
SA NI DA PA MA GA RI SA
2ND VERSION:SA RI GA MA PA DA NI DA PA SA
SA NI DA PA MA GA RI SA
3RD.VERSION SA RI GA MA PA DA NI PA SA
SA NI DA PA MA GA RI SA
aLL THE ABOVE VERSIONS ARE BY RANGIAH OF MYSORE
Ref:Ragam Pravagam by D.Pattammal
You may notice that In all the versions the uttarangam is one and the same(as of NataBHAIRAVI) That is the reason why it tends prsent a Naaga Ghandhari tinge and that too due to the fact that one of the versions (as per Sangeetha Ragak kaDal of mahadevan the uttarangam for NaagaGhandhari is nothing but NaTabhairavi.
It is therefore better to adopt the popular phrases in the sAhityam and as far as possible avoid the uttaranga of both Nagaghandhari and jevanpuri (jonepuri)
Ramaraj
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Songs in nAgagAndhAri.
Andariki- -Sriramachandra Murti Sistla
Are yadukula tilaka (lng)-Triputa-Govindacharya
Bhajamyaham avyayam parvatisham-Adi-Muttiah Bhagavatar
Bhakta samrakshaname- -Sriramachandra Murti Sistla
Enna bhagyam sheiden- -Rajalakshmi Parameshvaran
Enta manninchene nannu nitadu nedu vintalu-Rupaka-Annamacharya
Idivo ni mahimalu emani pogadevayya-Rupaka-Annamacharya
Jagadisha shri ramana mamava jalajanabha-Adi-Svati Tirunal
Jati kulam pirappennum shuzhipattu (tvc)-Rupaka-Manikkavachakar
Mannaru ranga deva shriman-Rupaka-Subbarama Dikshitar
Nagandhari raganute nagaja nandite mamava-Adi-Muttusvami Dikshitar
Ni vishala svarupamulone sthiramuga na manasu- -Sriramachandra Murti Sistla
O rama rama sarvonnata nikipudora vanchana-Triputa-Tyagaraja
Paninden undan padame-Rupaka-R.Shrinivasan (Nadopasana)
Poruttavar-Adi-Ramanathan Chettiar
Rebhummimmajha rinamnam (lkg)-Dhruva-Venkatamakhi
Samasta jivula- -Sriramachandra Murti Sistla
Sarasijanabha sodari shankari pahi mam-Rupaka-Muttusvami Dikshitar
Tanakai chinta shayaledu tarachuga o cheliya-Adi-Shahji Maharaja
Vandeham te nadasudha- -Bangalore S.Mukund
Vara vendum vara vendum taye oru varam tara vendum-Adi-?
Andariki- -Sriramachandra Murti Sistla
Are yadukula tilaka (lng)-Triputa-Govindacharya
Bhajamyaham avyayam parvatisham-Adi-Muttiah Bhagavatar
Bhakta samrakshaname- -Sriramachandra Murti Sistla
Enna bhagyam sheiden- -Rajalakshmi Parameshvaran
Enta manninchene nannu nitadu nedu vintalu-Rupaka-Annamacharya
Idivo ni mahimalu emani pogadevayya-Rupaka-Annamacharya
Jagadisha shri ramana mamava jalajanabha-Adi-Svati Tirunal
Jati kulam pirappennum shuzhipattu (tvc)-Rupaka-Manikkavachakar
Mannaru ranga deva shriman-Rupaka-Subbarama Dikshitar
Nagandhari raganute nagaja nandite mamava-Adi-Muttusvami Dikshitar
Ni vishala svarupamulone sthiramuga na manasu- -Sriramachandra Murti Sistla
O rama rama sarvonnata nikipudora vanchana-Triputa-Tyagaraja
Paninden undan padame-Rupaka-R.Shrinivasan (Nadopasana)
Poruttavar-Adi-Ramanathan Chettiar
Rebhummimmajha rinamnam (lkg)-Dhruva-Venkatamakhi
Samasta jivula- -Sriramachandra Murti Sistla
Sarasijanabha sodari shankari pahi mam-Rupaka-Muttusvami Dikshitar
Tanakai chinta shayaledu tarachuga o cheliya-Adi-Shahji Maharaja
Vandeham te nadasudha- -Bangalore S.Mukund
Vara vendum vara vendum taye oru varam tara vendum-Adi-?
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For the original Jonpuri (Hindustani) the nominal chalan is something like :vageyakara wrote:Jone Puri is known as jevan puri- (jan.of 20th mElam(20)th naTabhairavi with IST VERSION: SA RI MA PA DA NI SA
SA NI DA PA MA GA RI SA
2ND VERSION:SA RI GA MA PA DA NI DA PA SA
SA NI DA PA MA GA RI SA
3RD.VERSION SA RI GA MA PA DA NI PA SA
SA NI DA PA MA GA RI SA
aLL THE ABOVE VERSIONS ARE BY RANGIAH OF MYSORE
Ref:Ragam Pravagam by D.Pattammal
You may notice that In all the versions the uttarangam is one and the same(as of NataBHAIRAVI) That is the reason why it tends prsent a Naaga Ghandhari tinge and that too due to the fact that one of the versions (as per Sangeetha Ragak kaDal of mahadevan the uttarangam for NaagaGhandhari is nothing but NaTabhairavi.
It is therefore better to adopt the popular phrases in the sAhityam and as far as possible avoid the uttaranga of both Nagaghandhari and jevanpuri (jonepuri)
Ramaraj
S R M P S - S D P M P G R S
MOre details on Jonpuri, and allied rAgas are available in an article by Rajan Parrikare at http://www.sawf.org/newedit/edit06112001/musicarts.asp
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...vageyakara wrote:Hi SAM'
Jone Puri is known as jevan puri- (jan.of 20th mElam(20)th naTabhairavi with IST VERSION: SA RI MA PA DA NI SA
SA NI DA PA MA GA RI SA
2ND VERSION:SA RI GA MA PA DA NI DA PA SA
SA NI DA PA MA GA RI SA
3RD.VERSION SA RI GA MA PA DA NI PA SA
SA NI DA PA MA GA RI SA
aLL THE ABOVE VERSIONS ARE BY RANGIAH OF MYSORE
Ref:Ragam Pravagam by D.Pattammal
You may notice that In all the versions the uttarangam is one and the same(as of NataBHAIRAVI) That is the reason why it tends prsent a Naaga Ghandhari tinge and that too due to the fact that one of the versions (as per Sangeetha Ragak kaDal of mahadevan the uttarangam for NaagaGhandhari is nothing but NaTabhairavi.
It is therefore better to adopt the popular phrases in the sAhityam and as far as possible avoid the uttaranga of both Nagaghandhari and jevanpuri (jonepuri)
Ramaraj
The observation that naga gandhari is same as natabhairavi is interesting..I was listening to "sri valli devasenapathe"
a beatiful composition by sri diskshitar..i was always under the impression that it is in raaga "naga gandhari"....it sounds so mu ch like naga gandhari...later only i could find out that it is in naata bhairavi...
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Dear CT,
Please note that the entire structure of both NAAGAGHANDHARI AND NATABHAIRAVI are not identical.Only the (UttarAngam)i.e the avarOhaNamm part of them is identical.
In this connection request u to view and listen to my creation in the rAgam naTabhairavi
"innisai ezhil konjum naTabhairavi" glorifying the very rAgam.
Link ref:www.karnatik.com/c3493.shtml
Ramaraj
Please note that the entire structure of both NAAGAGHANDHARI AND NATABHAIRAVI are not identical.Only the (UttarAngam)i.e the avarOhaNamm part of them is identical.
In this connection request u to view and listen to my creation in the rAgam naTabhairavi
"innisai ezhil konjum naTabhairavi" glorifying the very rAgam.
Link ref:www.karnatik.com/c3493.shtml
Ramaraj
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hallo CMDevotees, and CT,
Since the pallavi line by most of the vidwans is sung with sr vallidEva sEnApatE-with notation starting from "REE GAA MA " a slight tinge of nAaga ghaNDHARI seems to peep into . Where as if started with "SA RI GAA MA"will give the perfect swaroopa of naTabhairavi in the beginning line itself.This is my humble opinion.
Ramaraj
Since the pallavi line by most of the vidwans is sung with sr vallidEva sEnApatE-with notation starting from "REE GAA MA " a slight tinge of nAaga ghaNDHARI seems to peep into . Where as if started with "SA RI GAA MA"will give the perfect swaroopa of naTabhairavi in the beginning line itself.This is my humble opinion.
Ramaraj