KARNATAKA BEHAG AND HARIKAMBODHI- ANY DIFFERENCE?

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#1 KARNATAKA BEHAG AND HARIKAMBODHI- ANY DIFFERENCE?

Post by RSR » 12 Jan 2019, 12:32

Is there any major difference between Karnaataka Behaag and Harikaambodhi?
specific reference to 'naenendhu vedu kuthura hari' by Thyagaraja ?
https://sites.google.com/site/homage2ms ... du-kuthura
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https://youtu.be/bS5uX1YqGQk
( upload by Sr.V.Srinivasan)
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#2 Re: KARNATAKA BEHAG AND HARIKAMBODHI- ANY DIFFERENCE?

Post by SrinathK » 12 Jan 2019, 12:53

karnATaka behAg uses the phrase M1 G3 R2 G3 S and S N2 D2 N2 P and also S N2 P and M1 G3 S - apart from this all other phrases of this rAgA overlap totally with harikAmbhoji - it's almost like 2 cars that are identical but one has a different sent of tail lamps. :lol:

It's quite clear from LGJ's recording (with kalpanaswaras) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pzby7z0ZfN8#t=5m27s

I was in fact wondering what that rAgA was - I had forgotten it. Thanks for reminding me.

There is also a rendition of Brinda and Mukta from the sangeethapriya tribute page to Thyagaraja.
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#3 Re: KARNATAKA BEHAG AND HARIKAMBODHI- ANY DIFFERENCE?

Post by RSR » 13 Jan 2019, 11:10

HARIKAMBODHI
g3=g2 ( FOLLOWING HM notation for convenience)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hari ... _scale.svg
HARIKAMBODHI -> S R2 G2 M1 P D2 N2 S
<- S N2 D2 P1 M1 P G2 R2 S
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KARNATAKA BEHAG S R2 G2 M1 P D2 N2 S
S N2 D2 N2 P D2 M1 G2 R2 S
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srinath wrote:
M1 G3 R2 G3 S and S N2 D2 N2 P and also S N2 P and M1 G3 S
m1 g2 r2 g2 s
s n2 d2 n2 n2 p
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s n2 p
m1 g2 s

May I know, if the versions cited by me are correct?
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Happened to come across part of a book in pdf on rare ragas handled by Thyagaraja.
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CHAPTER-III
RARE RAGAS HANDLED BY TYAGARAJA
http://shodhganga.inflibnet.ac.in/bitst ... er%203.pdf

( page-44 of the pdf) deals with karnaataka behag
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