RARE RECORDS OF 78 RPM ERA

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Here is the Rajam Pushpavanam recording of Akshayalinga vibho

https://archive.org/details/rajam-pushp ... rabharanam

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Thank you very much Shri Shankaran K 🙏

It says recorded in 1930.
If that’s right, she would have been 12/13 years old.

Have you seen this article?
Oldest record of Rajam Pushpavanam’s is in 1930.
https://www.newindianexpress.com/cities ... 70950.html
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Shri Shankaran K,
Do you have a copy of Kasturi Tilakam sung by Rajam Pushpavanam?

https://worldradiohistory.com/hd2/IDX-I ... e-0070.pdf

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O Jagadamba - Anandhabhairavi - M. S. Subbulakshmi
https://youtu.be/SPUUup2VKfs-
uploaded by Vintage Voices Of South India
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This is a rare 1937 Broadcast shellac of the renowned singer M. S. Subbulakshmi of Madura singing a Shyama Sastri Krithi O Jagadamba set to the ragam Anandhabhairavi. Along with the label images the video follows the advertisement page of Broadcast Magazine of May 1937. There is no commercial intent or intent to infringe on copyright in sharing these recordings. These recordings are only uploaded so that it is available for everyone.
Audio Source: Mr. Saidukutty Sainuddin, Varkala

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A very very rare 78 rpm record
by
Smt. N. C. Vasanthakokilam
Thyagaraja Swami kruthi
Sive Pahimam -
KalyaNi raagam
uploaded by
Vintage Voices Of South India
https://youtu.be/9u-wmo0fdZc
-MUST HAVE BEEN SOMETIME IN 1945.

uploader adds
"This is a very rare disc of the great vidushi singing a melodious and sweet kalyani that can melt people's hearts. This beautifully rendered thyagaraja krithi is first started with an alapana followed by neraval, kalapana swaram and thani avarathnam making this record as a complete set. "
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http://thyagaraja-vaibhavam.blogspot.co ... -raga.html

Seems to be 90 % SANSKRIT



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Thank you RSR :)
That voice!
And that mini passage of a tani--a lovely morsel it is--the morsing singing along...

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arasi wrote: ↑11 Apr 2023, 20:05 Thank you RSR :)
That voice!
And that mini passage of a tani--a lovely morsel it is--the morsing singing along...
More like micro. 4:35 to 5:12! Less than 40 seconds. But delightful nonetheless. :)

-T

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A very very rare 78 rpm record by
MS Subbulakshmi,
Thyaagaraja swami
kruthi in
HamirKalyaNi.
Please do visit the link. This record was given in 1927, when MS was just 12.
There is a bonus of bespectacled
photo .
...
Sri.v.govindan has given notes , equally , wonderful at his blog page at
also..a

A rare theme ...a mild rebuke of SRI RAAMAA.
https://youtu.be/llyYtBgrUvs


Comments -by sri.v.govindan

1 - nirmOhi – SrI tyAgarAja seems to have, on purpose, praised the Lord as father of kuSa and lava, because SrI rAma knowing that sItA was pregnant, banished her to forest. Earlier He made sItA undergo fire ordeal. These instances, particularly with regard to His beloved wife, show that SrI rAma regarded virtues and His rAja dharma above affections. Therefore, SrI tyAgarAja calls him nir-mOhi.http://thyagaraja-vaibhavam.blogspot.co ... -raga.html

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RSR wrote: ↑21 Jul 2023, 19:06 A very very rare 78 rpm record by
MS Subbulakshmi,
Thyaagaraja swami
kruthi in
HamirKalyaNi.
Is above really rendered in Hamirkakyani ? Imho does it not look like just yaman/kalyani ? Bcos in renditions by other artists the typical characteristic phrase was clear..
Thx anyway

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Sujamusic.wordpress.com
https://sujamusic.wordpress.com/hameer-kalyani/
Hameer Kalyani
The scales of Raga Hameer (or Hamir) Kalyani are as follows :

Aarohanam (Ascending) : S P M2 P D2 N3 S’
Avarohanam (Descending) : S’ N3 D2 P M2 M1 G3 P M1 R2 S

It is a Janya raga, derived from Mecha Kalyani which is 65th on the Melakarta Scale (see below).

65 Kalyani
This is an import from Hindustani Music but has become an integral part of Carnatic Music now. An elegant raga, it has a weave and flow built into it which, I think, makes it very pleasing indeed. It can be sung to show a sense of supplication; it can also convey a sense of gentleness and peace. There are some beautiful compisition in this raga, such as the Venkata Shaila by Subbaraya Shastri, Manamu Leda by Tyagaraja, Parimala Ranganatham by Muthuswami Dikshithar and Gangeya Vasana by Swathi Thirunal. But the first song I always remember is Thoomani Madathu, the Thiruppavai song set to Hameer Kalyani by the great Ariyakudi Ramanuja Iyengar.
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I think, the MSS version is much closer to ARI.

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Ragam hameer kalyaNi dies not seem to have been discussed in ragas section of this forum.
Generally, there may be fine differences in the treatment of HM related raagams between SS and Thyagaraja school and that of MD.
@Srinath specialises in such analysis
A request, if he finds time

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Here's my say, NOT from an expert at all, but from my childhood experience. I have heard ARI, VVS sing mAnamu lEdA, thUmaNi mADathu and also Subbaraya Shastry's VenkaTa Saila vihAra in what was called amIr kalyANi and I remember B.Rajam Iyer writing it down as hamIr kalyani in my aunt Jayalakshmi Santhanam's music note book!
Ari must have fancied the rAgA then and so sang it often and tuned a tiruppAvai with it too.

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Suja music .wordpress
Many music lovers cite three kruthis as reference for hamirkakyani. ..Thyagaraja's maanamuledha,
MD Parimalaranga
Subbaraya SĂ srry's kruthi on lord venkatesa...venkaTa shaila vihArA
.
Sujamusic has given transliterarion and translation for Subbaraya SAstry kruthi.
And as arasi madam says, ARI had a liking for this ragam and this kruthi.
We will hear ARI at item.10 of the concert uploded to sangeethapriya...
First the kruthi
....

pallavi

venkaTa shaila vihArA
nIvE gati brOva rAdA (shrI)

anupallavi

pankaja bhava surapati nuta charanA
kinkara sankula sankaTa haraNA (shrI)

charaNam

viNTininE nI varaguNa kathalanu
vInulakentO Anandamuga (alternate : yunTini epuDu sEvintunani)
gaNTini girini gOpuramula maNimaya
maNTapamula (/mulanu) nI baNTuDa naiti nI

Ariyakudi Sri.Ramanuja Iyengar - venkaTa shaila - Hameer Kalyani - Subbaraya Sastri" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/6eJsGMZekow

Translation

Oh Venkatesa who dwells on the Venkata mountain, you are my sole refuge, please come to protect me.

The Lotus Born (Brahma) and the Lord of Devas (Indra) worship your feet. You are the saviour of your servants (should be read as devotee here) afflicted with multitude of sufferings.

I heard the stories of your greatness that are so pleasing to the ears (alternate: I heard the stories of your greatness and I was eager to worship you) I saw the hills, the gopuras (towers) and mantapas (pavilions) studded with gems. I have become your servant/devotee.
.
" Brinda & Smt T SmtMuktha I Hameer Kalyani I Venkatasaila I Subbaraya Sastri I From the Archives" on YouTube

YouTube
https://youtu.be/godG_saUkMg
...

..T Brinda- Venkata Shaila- Hamirkalyani- Adi- Subaraya Shastri
https://youtu.be/gw1URqIN3Qo
...............
...........

Here is MD's famous kruthi.
Parimala ranganathami"
Temple somewhere very near Maayavaram.
Rendered by smt.amrita mural
https://www.sangeethamshare.org/kasturi ... ha_Murali/

.
04. There are 3 mp3s. One of which shows name as Saranga...?

...

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Thanks for all delights!
Ari's breezy, enthused expression in singing about VenkaTESa. T.Brinda singing it as a chiselled piece of beauty, dwelling in subbaraya Shastry's adoration of the Lord. A step by step description the song is, like climbing the hill to the shrine. I remember the line (as a child) maNTapa, Ari reverting back and singing ma...Ni...maNTapa! Loved hearing that. Notice that he doesn't sing the last verse.
Both of them sing the charaNam line as vinTIni. That was more current then and it is more appealing in meaning too, I feel.

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@arasi madam,
Thank you.
I am eager to learn about your opinion
1-
the rendering of Brinda and that of Brindha-Muktha. Which sounds better..?
2-
any subtle difference between ARI and Brinda handling of this raagam?
...
3
Manamuledha song rendered by Radha-Jayalakshmi , posted in musicians section?

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Now, you are putting a non-expert to test, RSR! After many years of our not seeing any tamizh movies, videos came about and the first film we saw was Sindhubhairavi which amazed us. What a giant step in tamizh cinema, I thought. Why this reference? Because of that song in it: pADaRiyEn--how it was just a reflection of my non-expertise in music, I felt. So, rasikkath theriyum, and that about sums it up and at Rasikas.org which teems with experts, I am the wrong person to answer your question!

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@arasi
Madam, if i had given that impression, my sincere apologies.
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I have read that while Brundha sang the saahithyam, Muktha would sing the same as swaram. Should have been thrilling. I wanted just a confirmation from a veteran like you. I know that you too learned from great musicians.
.
Perhaps kishore can find the slight difference between the MD school ..and
Thyagaraja swami school.

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https://youtu.be/z1C0mY2tKAg

Another rare rare 78 rpm by MSS
1934, shared by @cienu
Thyagaraja kruthi
Manasa..etulortune
Raagam Malayamarutham

Gist. By Sri.V.Govindan
My Mind! O Virtue-less!

How shall I tolerate? Accept my appeal.

Why is it that you wouldn’t listen even when exhorted to spend days by becoming humble and chanting the names of Lord rAma - the adornment of Solar dynasty?
Why is it that you wouldn’t listen to the words of this tyAgarAja who gives you suggestions for being redeemed easily in the kali yuga, instead of wandering here entangled in the company of those endowed with qualities of passion and inertia and thus wasting time?

How shall I tolerate? Accept my appeal.

[
Thyagaraja Kriti - Manasaa Etulortunae - Raga Malaya Maarutham

Great many thanks to @cienu

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Vaaridhi neekku

Thyagaraja swami kruthi
Todi raagam
Smt.Dk PattammaaL
78 rpm record
....

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Vaaridhi neekku
Gist
https://youtu.be/ooS5rApsosA

O Lord of Ocean! O Lord of Waters!

I offer my salutations to You.

Please listen.
Please tell me the path (adhered by You) due to which Lord hari always abides in Your heart Lotus.

Please protect me by having mercy on me;
please speak to the Lord a word about me;
please save my life, adopting any method.

please tell the path adhering to which the Lord would never be separated from me;

I shall not worry about all the troubles created by demons;
I shall not beg for Worldly pleasures, wealth and prosperity;
I shall not let go Lord hari from my mind;

please, therefore, tell me the path adhering which I may .

Thyagaraja swami kruthi
Todi raagam
Smt.Dk PattammaaL
78 rpm record
....

This kriti forms part of dance-drama 'prahlAda bhakti vijayam'. This is part of the conversation between prahlAda and Lord of Oceans after prahlAda was rescued from the snake-bond (nAga pASa) by garuDa.
..
Thanks to Sri.V.Govindan

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RSR wrote: ↑22 Jul 2023, 20:22 Ragam hameer kalyaNi dies not seem to have been discussed in ragas section of this forum.
I did find an existing discussion here in forum on (h)Amir kalyani aka hameer kalyani or humveeru in MD school .
https://www.rasikas.org/forums/viewtopi ... c114843e57
Hope above link i pasted rightly. That thread has fairly good details by one "vageyakara" about this ragam imported/adapted from kEdAr raag of KalyAn thAt in HM by our great MD into CM. Beauty i feel is the Dhrupad style he used in his kriti Parimala Ranganatham similar to his jambupathe of Yamuna kalyani . It has a characteristic "swinging style" which brings out the beauty or melody of the ragam esp the characteristic M1,M2 (both madhyamam) usage as well as both Nishadam (N2,N3) too.
Here's https://youtu.be/Gy74_ndRc3Y
@9:00 vidwan Trichur Ramachandran explains it in his own words in midst of his rendering of MD kriti on dhrupad swinging style )
Imho (I am no way expert just a listener ) I just find bcos MD introduced this ragam first he made it more closer to HM or preserved melodic aspect slightly better than ST kritis. Perhaps that having used to this MD way made me think that the one rendition of ST kriti MS sang in link you gave here little different.
-- i may be wrong too.
Also a blog of Anuradha Mahesh beautifully goes into full details of ragam if ones interested to read.
https://anuradhamahesh.wordpress.com/ca ... m-n-india/
Hope this post doesn't distract from main theme of this thread ,in case so it can be moved under ragas or as appropriate.

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@KKishore
Fine. And you are right. Keep it up.

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Is this accounted for already?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBL3bLart9E

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Here is another one a complete collection of ARI(s) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S98G5bhpZV0

Posting for convenience of access more than anything rare there to find.

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Here is another one a complete collection of ARI(s) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S98G5bhpZV
Great!
Anything from 1930 to 1950 is precious.
Thank you.

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https://youtu.be/DKE5pNvmCxg?si=UOEh3hBYu_5lRPhd

Innamum paaraa mukam aen , en iyane

Smt. M.S.Subbulakshmi


Bairavi raagam

Uploaded by
Vintage voices
78 rpm
1936?

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"M. S. Subbulakshmi

Sri Raghukula [

Useni

https://youtu.be/REqrmLRQn80?si=vOpGEIrpdt7Xekj3

Composer
Ramnad 'poochi' Srinivasa Iengar

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Here is a Chembai , Erode Visvanatha Iyer , Paghat Mani Iyer and Pudukottai Dakshinamoorthy Pillaival Kanjira from 1930s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2T2mewNNa4

The syllabic speed of the tALa vadyams is remarkable!

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T N Rajarathnam Pillai -
Thodi Pts 1 & 2 -78 rpm"


https://youtu.be/wJqbyKPVLlM?si=1JwsNOelCIh3IIyq

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I think the following vintage record would be relevant to this thresd.
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Watch "Intha Sowkhyamani - Kapi - Adi - Tyagaraja - Sangeetha Kalanidhi Vid. M S Subbulakshmi" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/ktGFTrHQYZA?si=qCv2mDoeV0TxXU83

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Watch "Raga Kapi (Pillangoviya Cheluva Krishnana)" on YouTube

https://youtu.be/_eWzLXGC-Bw?si=G9jtD3W40zdrnaeJ

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