Ahir Bhairav

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Post by sxm2872 » 10 Oct 2007, 05:05

Youtube has a video of Dr. Balamuralikrishna singing a thillana in Ahir Bhairav.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Emc18GpAeRY

I would appreciate if someone can point to an online audio source for this song. Thanks.
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Post by ramakriya » 10 Oct 2007, 05:14

To my ears, bindumAlini is a closer cousin to Ahir bhairav, more than chakravAka.

Anyone sharing a similar idea?

-Ramakriya
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Post by cmlover » 10 Oct 2007, 06:09

Bindumalini is a vakra raga and is dhaivata varjyam in aro!
How can it match Ahir bhairavi except being a janya of mela 16?
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Post by arasi » 10 Oct 2007, 06:56

I hear chakravAkam all along and I noticed a touch of bidumalini somewhere. Then again, the first time I heard it, the very beginning was reminiscent of sindhubhairavi!
It is nice to hear performers give us a no-nonsense opening which spells out the rAgA clearly without any musings or deliberations. Nice to hear them when they stay with the rAgA without switching suddenly to another, all in the first half a minute of starting a rAgA...

Of course, they may do all that and still we may not have any idea about the rAgA at all!
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Post by mohan » 10 Oct 2007, 07:27

Sounds like Ahir Bhairavi to me!
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Post by Naada Priya » 10 Oct 2007, 10:33

Guys, u are discussing something that my heart sings.....
I am crazy about Bindumalini I dont know the reason y I get so much facinated to listen to this raga. Its eternal.
U might hav heard Dr Ramani playing "Entha Muddo Entha Soggasu"...a masterpiece in itself...

Are there any other compositions other than Tyagaraja swami's....
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Post by ANAND » 10 Oct 2007, 12:14

Naada Priya wrote:Guys, u are discussing something that my heart sings.....
I am crazy about Bindumalini I dont know the reason y I get so much facinated to listen to this raga. Its eternal.
U might hav heard Dr Ramani playing "Entha Muddo Entha Soggasu"...a masterpiece in itself...

Are there any other compositions other than Tyagaraja swami's....
Yes NAAda priya

This raaga is a very divine raga and it touches ones' heart . The krithi Entha Muddo Entha Soggasu played by Lalgudi on the violin , also bring out the divinity of this raga . But till now it has been a raga which is well elaborate on the violin .. i.e instrument .. I think even in voval if the raga is elaborated, it it really be great .

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Post by epn1950 » 10 Oct 2007, 12:16

The previous discussion on Ahir Bhairav has raised this point in my mind about ragha bhava. Is it not technically right for a musician to just sing within the battery limits of the raga strictly adhering to the swara patterns specified for the arohana & avarohana. I would be obiged if somebody could explain the raga bhava of which everyone talks about so much.

I can understand that if you keep on listening to various established vidwans' alapanas of a particular raga over a period of time, the features of the raga get established in one's mind. Is this called the raga bhava? If some musician deviates from this impression of a raga in one's mind, eventhough he may be adhereing to the raga's arahona & avarohana swara permutaions & combinations technically, is he not singing with raga bahava?

I do agree with arasi's views which is as follows:

"It is nice to hear performers give us a no-nonsense opening which spells out the rAgA clearly without any musings or deliberations."

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Post by Naada Priya » 10 Oct 2007, 13:32

Pls confirm if there are any compositions other than Entha Muddo in Bindumalini....
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Post by gobilalitha » 10 Oct 2007, 14:55

ahir bhairavi is a favourite of hindi film music composers. the best , time honoured songs are;puchona kaise maine by manna dey in his captivating voice in film 'meri surat teri ankhen,music by SDBurman, meri bina tum bina roye by lata mangeshkar in film 'dekh kabira roye , music by filmi ghazal specialist Madanmohan . there are many , but these are the outstanding. gobilalitha
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Post by Naada Priya » 10 Oct 2007, 15:25

Naada Priya wrote:Pls confirm if there are any compositions other than Entha Muddo in Bindumalini....
Also pls let me know if there are any varnams or thillanas in this Raga

-Naada Priya
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Post by rbharath » 10 Oct 2007, 15:27

i remember hearing a tamil song in bindumAlini sung by sIrkazhi Sri siva chidambaram at a concert in IIT Madras, long time ago...
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Post by Naada Priya » 10 Oct 2007, 15:40

I attended a fusion concert conducted by Mrudangam Maestro Mysore H L Shivashankaraswamy few yrs bak. In that kalpanaswaras were put in Pantuvarali and Bindumalini by Mysore A V Prakashs son(dont remember the name!!). It was just great . Thats the only tim I heard Bindumalini other than Dr ramani playing it..
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Post by Lakshman » 10 Oct 2007, 19:32

I don't know of any varNAs in this rAgA but BMK has composed a tillAnA in ahirbhairav.
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Post by ramakriya » 10 Oct 2007, 22:51

cmlover wrote:Bindumalini is a vakra raga and is dhaivata varjyam in aro!
How can it match Ahir bhairavi except being a janya of mela 16?
Why? Because several sanchAras are common :) - Also the kAlapramANa of the two rAgas lend well to unfold slowly.

g r m , p n d p , m g m r s are prayOgas that bring out both rAgas.

p n s , s d p g r s are couple of sanchAra that establishes bindumAlini from Ahir bhirav effectively.

-Ramakriya
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Post by rajesh_rs » 28 Jul 2008, 22:48

I've read in a lot of places that Ahir-Bhairav is the same raga as Chakravakam. Chakravakam is undoubtedly a divine raga, more than most others that can bear the caption. The procession of Chakravakam is gentle and sensitive, its almost as if the raga speaks to you through the song, a sort of message instantly distinguishable from the poetry! I owe a splendid afternoon of several hours of guitar practice to this raga.
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Post by knandago2001 » 29 Jul 2008, 08:16

I was listening to a great Ahir Bhairav by Smt. Padma Talwalkar this morning on Zee Marathi - "re balamaa.." such a lovely drut bandish.. "alaap" airs between 5:30 - 6:00 am.
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#18 Re: Ahir Bhairav

Post by csmurthy » 20 Oct 2010, 08:43

One can never ever forget the Aahi Bhairav composed by Viswanathan Ramamurthy for the film Karnan, beautifully rendered by Dr.Sirkazhi Govindarajan - 'Ullathil Nalla Ullam' which took this raga to the nook and corner of India. What a great classical rendition.! :D
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#19 Re: Ahir Bhairav

Post by ganeshkant » 20 Oct 2010, 11:22

Ahir Bhairav though an equivalent of Chakravaham very rarely or won't have P in arohanam.

There is an excellent song in the film "PAttum Bharathamum" - Deivathin thereduthu deviyai thedu -Music by MSV and extraordinarily rendered by TMS.This song starts with a virutham "karpanaikku .....".Available in muisc india online or raga or you tube.KIndly check up.

There is another song "Bhoomadevi pole vAzhum jeevan needhane" from the film 'Pancha kalyani' - Music by Shyam and sung by SPB.A good one too.
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#20 Re: Ahir Bhairav

Post by SrinathK » 11 Jan 2019, 09:54

If you want to hear Ahir bhairav, here's the video that broke the internet : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJxVWF8KjFI

Rahul Vellal - pibarE rAma rasam - Sadashiva Brahmendra
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