ananda bhairavi

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suman pai
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Post by suman pai » 25 Oct 2008, 13:48

can any body help me by giving links to downloads of raga 'ananda bhairavi'
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Post by Lakshman » 25 Oct 2008, 16:34

go to sangeethamshare.org and type in anandabhairavi in the searchstrip and find a number of songs in this raga.
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Post by gobilalitha » 26 Oct 2008, 07:35

I remember Subbudu's outburst against fat cheque payments to hm performers.He used to say' I dare
any hm singer to sing anandabhairavi(excuse me, i have already mentioned this in another thread). The point is anandabhairavi such adifficult raaga? I am an ardent fan of TMK'S 'ksheera sagara' in
anandabhairavi gobilalitha
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Post by vijay » 26 Oct 2008, 10:56

I am not sure what Subbudu meant by his comment. AB does have plenty of foreign notes so one needs to be careful. Slipping into Ritigowla is always a danger. Elaborations and swara kalpana can be quite taxing.

But there are plenty of such ragas in Hindustani as well. In fact in Hindustani music, you tend to have more ragas that have the same notes but different "pakads" which necessitates careful handling. Ramashraya Jha's mini lec-dem on a parallel thread should amply illustrate this point.

If I were Subbudu I would have focused my tirade on rhythm where CM is undoubtedly far more sophisticated.
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Post by tmohan » 27 Oct 2008, 10:47

Many a times, Subbudu's comments were only to read and enjoy, not to make much meaning. Once Dr.Rukmani Arundel
told that Subbudu never appreciated her dance( rather approved!)

Though AB is considered as a property of Shyama Shastry, that of Dikshitar has several unique prayogas especially in
"tyAgarAja yogavaibhavam" ( the version of MSS is slightly different from that of KVN ; I consider MSS to be more authentic here, close to SSP). Some are not popularly used.


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Post by anandabhairavi » 04 Apr 2009, 11:01

Wow I love the ragam .Al ways wondered why no body sings it as main RAGA in an elaborate manner but just passing one in RTP.This is great news i will try with BP meter!!
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Post by rbharath » 04 Apr 2009, 11:42

wow!
nice news.

i think i saw a songlist recently, which mentioned 'kamalAmbA samrakshatumAm' as main.

years ago, Sri Maruti Prasad, had sung 'marivEre' as main at his Academy concert.

songs like 'O jagadamba' or 'manasa guruguhA' and 'danDAyudapANim' are really mainable.

even RTPs in Anandabhairavi are rare...
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Post by Sathej » 04 Apr 2009, 11:50

I think I've seen a songlist with O Jagadamba as main. I don't recollect the artiste - TMK perhaps? There is also an RTP in Sangeethapriya by GNB, I guess. TNS has sung an RTP in Anandabhairavi-Sindubhairavi.

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Post by braindrain » 04 Apr 2009, 12:46

rbharath wrote:even RTPs in Anandabhairavi are rare...
Is that so ? I listened to 3 concert with RTP in Anandabhairavi ( two of them by Vijay Siva and one by Gayathri Venkataraghavan) last year.
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Post by balusatya » 04 Apr 2009, 18:49

Dr.BMK has sung sunadavinodhini/Anandabhairavi RTP. I have heard it longback @Madurai.
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#11 Re: ananda bhairavi

Post by SrinathK » 14 Jan 2019, 14:47

Time to revive another thread. Ananda bhairavi is the only rAgA I'm aware of that uses all 3 Ds (D1, D2 and D3).

While Shyama Sastri and Dikshitar krithis come first to mind when thinking about this raga, I'm instead starting elsewhere with GNB singing Periyasami Thooran's sAma gAna priyE instead :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQ6Am4Sv58I

And while we're at it, from an official HCL Maestros release : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bEOXexM7WM - thyAgarAja yOga vaibhavam of Dikshitar
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#12 Re: ananda bhairavi

Post by ajaysimha » 14 Jan 2019, 15:41

SrinathK wrote:
14 Jan 2019, 14:47
Time to revive another thread. Ananda bhairavi is the only rAgA I'm aware of that uses all 3 Ds (D1, D2 and D3).
ananda bhairavi as bhashanga raga uses:
g2(self) and g3(anya)
d2(self) and d1(anya)
n2(self) and n3(anya)
all these 3 prayogams can be illustrated in raveme maguva swarajathi.
link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeBKMlX8UFo

@SrinathK are you referring to d3 as n2 ?
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#13 Re: ananda bhairavi

Post by SrinathK » 15 Jan 2019, 10:12

Yes, see, I have seen only a handful of musicians sing P N2 P S or N2 P M G P M G M G R, etc... everyone only sings it as P D3 P S or P D3 P M G R. The chittaswaram of O Jagadamba is an example.

N2 is explicitly used for S N2 D2 P phrases.

The phrase P N2 S IMHO does exist in Ananda Bhairavi although it is rare. It can be sung with a gap between the P and N2 S. Mostly it is sung as P R2 S
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#14 Re: ananda bhairavi

Post by SrinathK » 15 Jan 2019, 10:51

A 45 min elaboration with 2 pieces : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDXpDG43_r4 by TMK. This is from the First edition arts Channel's Youtube so that's why I'm sharing it.

- The first composition was "azhudEn" penned by Perumal Murugan. The second composition, "O jagadamba" was by Shyama Sastri.

One advantage of singing at such an ultra slow tempo is that you can decipher every phrase.
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#15 Re: ananda bhairavi

Post by SrinathK » 16 Jan 2019, 11:17

Lalgudi Jayaraman playing kamalAmba samrakshatu (the first navAvarna kriti of Dikshitar) :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pwf8M1u8oU#t=31m22s - Official channel of Music Today
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#16 Re: ananda bhairavi

Post by ajaysimha » 17 Jan 2019, 16:25

SrinathK wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 10:12
P D3 P M G R. The chittaswaram of O Jagadamba is an example.
need a clarification
"P D3 P M G R" this phrase you stated, can it look like this too "P D1 P M G R"

because what i know is
D1 is used in phrases like
P D1 P and go towards M

D2 is used in phrases like
P D2 P S
P D2 P N S
and go towards N or S'
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#17 Re: ananda bhairavi

Post by SrinathK » 17 Jan 2019, 17:26

Yes, G M P D1 M P, or D1 P D1 M P G R (marivErE chittasawaram - that uses all 3 of them), G M P D1, G,, (in alApanas) are all possible.

No D2 is not used in P D P S. It is P D3 P S or P N2 P S (some musicians even sing it that way to avoid a vivAdi swaram).

D2 is used in N2 D2 P phrases.
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#18 Re: ananda bhairavi

Post by ajaysimha » 17 Jan 2019, 18:10

sure, thanks
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#19 Re: ananda bhairavi

Post by ajaysimha » 18 Jan 2019, 17:12

coming to varnams it reminds me of these 2:

>Sakhiye inda velayil jalam sheyyade (pv) - Anandabhairavi - Adi - Shivanandam
(this varnam has done a complete justice to anandabiravi ragam,
the muktayi swarams are beautifully composed wherein one can imagine the ullasa-nadai, joyful walk of
dancer/swarams)

>Sami ni rammanave sarasakshi i vela (tv) - Anandabhairavi - Ata - Shyama Shastri
(this follows the same structure of viriboni varnam whose composer is adiappayya , guru of shyama-shyastrigal,
also the usage of words are fabulous, we can also see the Dhatu Mathu alankara employed here)
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#20 Re: ananda bhairavi

Post by ajaysimha » 22 Jan 2019, 13:58

Anandha Bhairavi ragam said to be as shyama shastris swatthu (property)

Has composed 6 kerthanams and 1 varnam in this ragam
Shastrigal has covered all possible prayogams of Ananda Bhairavi in these compositions.

A dinamuninci
himAcala tanaya
mahilO ambA
mari vErE gati
O jagadambA
pAhi SrI giri rAja
And
Sami ni rammanave varnam

Mari vere gati: this composition is so very popular and technically sound, any one trying to do an alapana of this ragam will keep this as a reference point

Himachal Tanaya: this composition has a very nice opening in pallavi and anupallavi confirming AB ragam, where the all 3 charanas have same varna mettu with good usage of words fitting apty.
What a wordplay !!!

Pahi Sri giriraja: the characteristic phrase of AB ragam is the dhatu prayogams b/w only prakruthi swaras ie. S-P-S', This can be seen in the opening word pa-hi-sri

More that all these Sangeetha laksanams,
Addressing bangaru kakmakshi ambal by SS in ananadbharavi ragam, divinity just outflows.
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#21 Re: ananda bhairavi

Post by SrinathK » 12 Feb 2019, 15:12

GNB RTP in Ananda bhairavi :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Tfl3vmgyI&t=1157s - pArvati paramAnanda bhairavi in Adi tAlA 1 1/2 eDuppu.

For any elaborate renditions of rAgAs, GNB is the go to vidwan for the job - the amount of detail he packs into his rAgA AlApanAs is something else.
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#22 Re: ananda bhairavi

Post by SrinathK » 12 Feb 2019, 16:26

When venkaTamakhin wrote about Ananda Bhairavi, he used only D1 (shuddha dhaivatam). During the time the SSP was written, Ananda bhairavi used shuddha dhaivatam for the S N D P phrase and D2 is said to have been adopted over time in certain phrases. The SSP rendition of kamalAmba samrakshatu can sound alien at some spots because of that D1. These days, D1 is only used on some phrases for a more emotional impact.

But looking at the mUrchana from the SSP, it looks like N3 was at least used in some arOhanam phrases, though I am not clear about that one.

It used phrases like PNNS as well. GNB for one never used D3 in his rendition of this rAgA, he used only N2 in phrases like PNPS, etc. It's clear from that RTP I shared. Now-a-days we tend to sing that also as D3, as in P D3 P S.
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#23 Re: ananda bhairavi

Post by rajeshnat » 12 Feb 2019, 17:15

SrinathK wrote:
12 Feb 2019, 15:12
GNB RTP in Ananda bhairavi :- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Tfl3vmgyI&t=1157s - pArvati paramAnanda bhairavi in Adi tAlA 1 1/2 eDuppu.

For any elaborate renditions of rAgAs, GNB is the go to vidwan for the job - the amount of detail he packs into his rAgA AlApanAs is something else.
Not just elaboration , some times GNB packs so much of punch of raga bhava with intense creativity. While all musicians usually sing thirruppugazh where other than the popular hamsanandi thirruppugazh you only get a concotion of words as perumAle stopper at the end. GNB introduces intense packed anandabhairavi in thirruppugazh, felt I had my first orange juice after a long day of fasting or dharna :lol: :lol:

GNB in his intense best singing dhavaloroopa -thirruppugazh in anandabhairavi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXKmQEHuCZ4
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#24 Re: ananda bhairavi

Post by SrinathK » 28 Feb 2019, 11:42

Back in the day, Carnatica, via their archival center (CAC), used to host raganubhava sessions where musicologists would discuss rAgAs in depth. They published their discussions in a monthly newsletter.

Take a look at the thorough discussion of Ananda bhairavi here : http://carnatica.in/newsletter/anandabh ... letter.htm

Unfortunately they did not cover too many rAgAs, but this is the difference between true musicologists and rank amateurs like us. If they had covered many more ragas, I need not have to write anything.

In time I will try to get discussions like these from various sources and compile them here.

Meanwhile, listen to mAnasa guruguha of Dikshitar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnZkyJQT1pw

Who knows how many more kritis Thyagaraja could have composed in it if some contemporaries had not made him promise not to compose more than once in it. All other composers certainly had a field day with it.
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