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#26

Post by kmrasika » 17 Jun 2006, 06:13

I recall someone mention a varNam in Ahiri by pancanada aiyyer on this board. If so, wondered whether we could have a notation to share if audio is not available.

Thank u (and lots more 8) ) coolkarni for sharing with us these great treasures.
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#27

Post by meena » 17 Jun 2006, 09:51

kmrasika
tanangambadi panchanada iyer's ahiri varna is ninne koriyunnadira rama.

Anytime u request for notations pl. post ur email.
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#28

Post by rbharath » 17 Jun 2006, 14:32

meena, could you please be kind enough to send the notations of the aahiri varnam to [email protected]

coolkarni, thanks for the awesome links.

thanks.
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#29

Post by mnsriram » 17 Jun 2006, 14:47

Sriram,
I think it is vIkshEham sadA gOpAla mUrtim....I think the poet is saying that that he will always have gOpAla mUrti in his sight...
Ravi
Thanks Shankar
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#30

Post by meena » 17 Jun 2006, 23:34

hi rbharath

when folks request notations they forget to provide their emails. So i just reminded 'kmrasika'.

have alerted Lji, the notations will be on its way.
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#31

Post by meena » 18 Jun 2006, 07:12

for those interested in txt.:

ninnE kOri. rAgA: Ahiri. aTa tALA. Composer: T.Panchanada Iyer.

P: ninnE kOriyunnadirA rAma nIrajAkSi nIkainadirA
A: pannaga bhUSUNuDaina shrI pancanadIshvara samayamidErA
C: nIvE nera jANuDani cAla pogaDucunnadirA
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#32

Post by Lakshman » 18 Jun 2006, 19:35

I need to have the email address of people who want the notation of this varNa.
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#33

Post by rshankar » 18 Jun 2006, 19:48

And the same ,sung for Balasaraswathis dance
http://rapidshare.de/files/23200632/bal ... -Ahiri.mp3
Kulkarni sa'ab,
Who is the singer in this track: Brinda? or is it Jayam? When I saw the name of the track, I assumed that Sri Viswanathan would be singing for his sister. (I had the opportunity to listen to him live ~10 years ago: amazing experience - although it was billed as a concert, he ended up making it into an absolutely divine 4.5 hours long lec-dem - he said that he'd been a teacher for so long that even if you took him out of the classroom, you could not take the teacher out of him! That was when I realized that he was a fantastic singer as well!).
Ravi
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#34

Post by coolkarni » 18 Jun 2006, 21:00

Ravi.
Sorry.I have no idea who is the singer
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#35

Post by rbharath » 19 Jun 2006, 22:43

got the notations. i must not learn it somehow. let me see.
thanks to both of u.
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#36

Post by kmrasika » 22 Jun 2006, 06:38

Lakshman/rbharath could one of you froward the notation of the varNa to me: [email protected]

I have a suspicion Swathi Thirunal has heard vIkshEham kadA and modeled his own navaratna kriti, paramapurushananu based on the same tune.
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#37

Post by meena » 22 Jun 2006, 06:49

rbharath wrote:
got the notations. i must not learn it somehow
bharath,
if u dont want to learn the kriti, why then the notations???
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#38

Post by vasanthakokilam » 22 Jun 2006, 08:56

lol.. My guess is Bharath meant to write "i must now learn it somehow" ;)
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#39

Post by rbharath » 22 Jun 2006, 12:01

it was a typo. :oops:

i must learn the varnam. ata tala varnam in aahiri is very juicy and tempting to learn... :cheesy:
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#40

Post by rbharath » 13 Jul 2006, 12:21

I am told that Mudicondan Venkatarama Iyer used to sing this Ahiri varnam. Also, i m told Smt Vedavalli sings it as well.
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#41

Post by prashant » 25 Jul 2006, 09:01

I checked with Vedavalli Amma through one of her students Smt. Sumathi. The Ahiri varnam is not in Amma's repertoire, but she did mention that there is a lovely varnnam by the same composer in suruTTi.
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#42

Post by thathwamasi » 13 Aug 2006, 18:36

Its amazing how Dikshithar chose Ahiri for the most divine last navavarna song. It perfectly suits the divinity and the involvement of ashta-vibakthi in that song. Amazing stuff. I still feel as if I had a darshan of AMMA everytime when I sing or play or listen to this song. Is there an ata tala varnam in Ahiri? I might be crazy but somehow I feel there must be one.
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#43

Post by thathwamasi » 13 Aug 2006, 18:37

sorry, I didnt see the above posts about varnam.is there notation available for this.
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#44

Post by LovingCM » 13 Jan 2007, 10:45

Hi, is it possible to get these ahiri krithis? or Am I too late to jump into these links? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

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#45

Post by thanjavur » 16 May 2007, 21:22

rAgAnubhava - nIlAmbari and Ahiri by P P Narayanaswami
[quote]Ahiri

Definition (ve.nkaTamakhin)




AhirI sA tu saMpUrNA

Sa grahA shrOtra ra~njanI |

gitOkta mELa maRgENa

bANa yAmE pragIyatE ||

(ve.nkaTamakhin – caturdaNDi prakAshika – anubandham 20-10)

Ahiri is usualy considered a janyam of mElam 8, hanumatODi (but opinions differ, and it can be placed under 14, vakuLAbharaNam, 17 sUryakAntam, or 20 naTabhairavi – see remarks below).

ArOhanam: sa ri sa ga ma pa dha ni Sa (S R1 S G3 M1 P D1 N2 S)

AvarOhaNam: Sa ni dha pa ma ga ri sa (S N2 D1 P M1 G3 R1 S))

The svarams featured are (mELam 8): SaDjam, shuddha riSabham, sAdhArana gAndhAram, shuddha madhyamam, pa~ncamam, shuddha dhaivatam, and kaishiki niSAdham. Since antara gAndhAram, and kakaLi niSAdham appears in several places, Ahiri becomes a bhASA.nga rAgam. It is an Arohana vakra sampUrNa rAgam.

The jIva svarams are ga, dha, and ni.

The chAya svarams are ri, ma, and ni.

The svarams shudda ri and ga are kampita svarams.

Ahiri is a gamaka vArikA rakti rAgam.

A tristAyI rAgam exhibiting a number of subtle shrutis in kaRNATik music.

It is therefore featured in k.rtis, operas, dramas and various dance forms.

The ga in Ahiri is very delicate. The well pronounced antara ga occurs very rarely. In most places it slips own to the sAdharaNa ga level. Even the catushruti dha occurs strikingly in phrases like “p{d}nSnddnDp.

A scholarly ragam that can be properly rendered only with suitable lakSya j~nAnam

Ahiri is a very early morning rAgam (ve.nkaTamakhin says bANa kAlam, which is second yAmam after evening/night). It portrays shOka and karuNa rasam (pathos, and compassion).

In Tamil paNN music, Ahiri is known by the name pa~ncamam.

Ahiri belongs to the 19 pUrva prasiddha mElams declared by “pUrva AcAryasâ€
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#46

Post by thanjavur » 16 May 2007, 21:26

http://www.karnatik.com/ragasa.shtml#aahiri
aahiri

14 vakulaabharaNam janya

Aa: S R1 S G3 M1 P D1 N2 S
Av: S N2 D1 P M1 G3 R1 S

Songs : aa daya shree - T
callarE raamacandru - T (prahalada bhakthi vijayam)
E panulu sesina-?-AC
eTula gaapaaDuduvO - T
inakula tilaka - tripuTa - BR
kathaya kathaya (also kalyaaNi)
pannageenDra sayana 7 - ST & Vadivelu
poola paanpu - T
raama raama bhadraacala - also neelaambari - BR

Alternate scales: (8 hanumatODi janya) S M1 G2 M1 P D1 N2 S - S N2 D1 P M1 G2 R1 S,
(14 vakulaabharaNam janya) S R1 S G3 M1 P D1 N2 S - S N2 D1 P M1 G3 R1 S, S R1 S M1 G3 M1 P D1 N2 S - S N2 D1 P M1 G3 M1 R1 S,
(17 sooryakaantam janya) S G3 M1 P D2 N3 S - S N3 D2 P M1 G3 R1 S,
(20 naTabhairavi janya) S R2 G2 R2 M1 P D1 N2 D1 S - S N2 D1 M1 G2 R2 S, S R2 S G2 M1 P D1 N2 S - S N2 D1 P M1 G2 R2 S

type : janya sampoorna, vakra aarOhanam, trianyaswara bhaashaanga raagam, sankeerna (swarams of 3 melakartas 8, 14, 20 are in this raagam) but 14 because of G3.
jeeva swaras : M,N
nyaasa swaras : G,P
graha swaras : G,P
phrases : SnSRS | Sndn,dp, | ggmgrr, | g,mp, (g with kampitam) | grr, (ekashruti R) | pdp,m (ekashruti D)
sancaaram : g,mp - p,dn,,dp, - p,,dp,,m - g,,mmggrr,s - sn.srs, - sn.n.d.d.,p., - n.n.s, - srsgmp,,m - pdnnS,,S - SnSR,S, - Snn,S,,S - Snndd,,p - pdnnSS - SRGMGRR, - Snn, SS - Snndd,,p - pdnnS,,, - Snndd,,,p - pdp,,m - gmmggrr, - gmpdn,S,, - pdp,mgmmggrr,sn.n.,s,,,
rasam : sOga (sad)

Hindustani:
scope : shines with chowka kaala prayOgams. phrases must be sung carefully.

Because this is a sad raagam, a proverb says if one sings aahiri in the morning, one will not get food that day.

VEnkaTamakhi considers this the 21st melakarta.

Same as Pann Pancamam of Tevaram.
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#47

Post by thanjavur » 16 May 2007, 21:28

Sangeethapriya (Ahiri) links

Abhayamo
by Somu (contribution - Raju Asokan)
http://www.sangeethapriya.org/~asokan/C ... -Ahiri.mp3

Challare Ramachandrunipi (Thyagarajar)
by MSS (contribution - Vasu)
http://www.sangeethamshare.org/vasu/MSS ... -Ahiri.mp3

Manasi dussahamayyo (Swati Tirunal)
by KVN (contribution - KL)
Song # 17

Mayamma yanine (Syama Sastry)
by DKJ (contribution - HMG Murthy)
Song # 024

by KVN (contribution - HMG Murthy)
http://www.sangeethapriya.org/~murthy/0 ... hastry.mp3

by MSS
(contribution - HMG Murthy)
Song # 025

(contribution - Kumar Narayan)
http://www.sangeethapriya.org/Downloads ... _Ahiri.mp3

(contribution - TVG)
http://www.sangeethapriya.org/~tvg/018. ... 1.77MB.mp3

by Mysore Nagaraj & Manjunath (contribution - T Giridhar & S Sridharan)
http://www.sangeethapriya.org/Downloads ... _AHIRI.mp3

by RNK (contribution - Vasu Srinivasan)
http://www.sangeethapriya.org/~svasu/08 ... -Ahiri.mp3

Mosamaye (Kshetragna)
by Brinda & Mukta
(contribution - Ajit)
http://www.sangeethapriya.org/cgi-bin/g ... mp3&loc=BM

(contribution - HMG Murthy)
Zip file (has songs 07 to 17) - Song # 09

Saksha nadana kodi
by BVR & BVL (contribution - TVG)
Song # 9

Sri Kamalamba Jayathi (Dikshitar)
by DKJ (contribution - Sunil)
http://www.sangeethamshare.org/sunil/gu ... m--DKJ.mp3

by P S Iyer
(contribution - HMG Murthy)
Song # 206

(contribution - Sunil)
http://www.sangeethamshare.org/sunil/gu ... 20Iyer.mp3

by Ranjani & Gayathri (contribution - TVG)
http://www.sangeethapriya.org/~tvg/092. ... 2.45MB.mp3

by SSI (contribution - Sunil)
http://www.sangeethamshare.org/sunil/gu ... M--SSI.mp3

by SSI Disciples (contribution - HMG Murthy)
Song # 205

Sompaian (Thyagarajar)
by Sugandha Kalamegham (contribution - R Ramachandran)
Song # 9

Venkatesam gada
by TNS (contribution - Raju Asokan)
Song # 07
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#48 Re: Ahiri

Post by SrinathK » 10 Jan 2019, 10:30

Over time the antara gAndhAram (G3) has become more prominent in Ahiri than sAdhAraNa gAndhAram (G2), to the point where I have to look very closely for the occasional sign of a G2.

Listen to Brindamma's rendition of A daya SrI raghu vs the Alathoor brothers - the usage of G2 is nearly 100% everywhere giving a tODi like flavour.

tsallarE rAmchandruni - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9ZNbqp1kHQ
A daya SrI raghu - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9ZNbqp1kHQ - This is the Alathur Brothers' recording.

I can't find the Brindamma recording on youtube, but it's in Sangeethapriya. Look for it.

You can listen to DKJ sing the 9th navAvarNam here : https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotatio ... kU#t=34m2s - official Youtube channel of a commercial album.
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#49 Re:

Post by RSR » 10 Jan 2019, 12:52

rbharath wrote:
09 Jun 2006, 10:52
come aahiri, the most popular piece is maayamma of shyama sastri. A very beautiful kriti.

the kamalamba navavarnam by itself is an magnum opus.

Adaya srI raghuvara and tsallarE rAmachandruni being the two tyagaraja kritis that are heard occasionally in concerts. Again really beautiful pieces.

Aalatthoor brothers rendering of aadhayasri is my favourite song.
Varsha_ji has a link.
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#50 Re: Ahiri

Post by SrinathK » 11 Jan 2019, 09:36

mAyamma (Shyama Sastri) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oMH8bjG4aQ - MS Amma
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