RSR wrote: ↑13 Sep 2020, 16:14
jayadeve sang all his songs on the courtesan padmavathi. and the kshethrgaya went from temple to temple seeking the favours of call girls abounding in hose days In Andhra country. what is so great about it?
Firstly I must ask you what are your sources? Where do you get these facts from?
@RSR, I do respect your age and vast experience of the world, but I request you not to twist historical facts to suit your own interpretations. Kshetrayya was a bhakta of Krishna, as was Jayadeva. Also, your calling the Devadasis “call girls” is an insult, and shows your own ignorance.
I have seen several threads where you have adopted this holier-than-thou attitude. Why? Why do you criticise Sringaram and view it in such a negative narrow-minded way?
Fact is, not a single one of us would be here today if not for feelings of love between two individuals. Humans are not born due to mitosis. And love is a feeling like any other. Teluguites experience it, Tamilians experience it, every human being on earth does. An expression of this love, and the other feelings that make us what we are, is the Padam or Javali. The meanings and feelings they evoke, are relevant whether they are in Telugu, Tamizh or even Japanese. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the expression of that divine love through lyrics, be they in any language.
You are a great admirer of Sangita Kalanidhi, Bharat Ratna, and a fierce champion of Bhakti, Vidushi M S Subbulakshmi. Didn’t she also have feelings of sringaram and love towards GNB and Sadashivam? Also she and her mother were devadasis. Are you going to call MSS’ mother a call girl? Your comments show your ignorance of these matters. Music is a vehicle for the expression of emotions, and no human emotion can be termed lewd or disgraceful. These legendary musicians and composers are far greater than we are, and closeting them, branding them, and imposing our own narrow minded ideas on them is an insult to them and their contributions to Carnatic Music.
Now the question comes, why are most padams and javalis in Telugu. Well, most krithis are in Telugu also. Carnatic Music, far a large part of its history, has been inextricably linked with Telugu literature. So many compositions are in Telugu. That padams and javalis are in Telugu does not mean that Telugu is a language that serves the purpose of disguising lewd and obscene lyrics. This premise of the discussion deeply offended me, for I am a Teluguite myself.
Thus to conclude-
1. Padams and Javalis are not lewd.
2. Devadasis are not call girls
3. All human emotions, including love as well as Bhakti, are sacred and must be respected
4. Telugu is not a language designed to make obscenities seem beautiful
Also, Tamil Nadu is not the sole repository of rasikas. Carnatic Music is not the sole property of Tamil Nadu, and no composition has ever been tailored to suit the tastes of the Tamilian rasika. These compositions were composed as an expression of the poet’s soul and mind, and not composed keeping in mind what the Tamilian Rasika may think about the lyrics. There are Telugu and Kannadiga and Malayali and who knows, even Dutch rasikas also, and Carnatic Music belongs to the world at large, not just the Tanjore belt.
Apologies if this seemed rude. I have the greatest respect for all the rasikas and musicians and composers of the past and present. But reading some of the comments in this thread have affected and hurt me deeply.
) with no qualms , and no effort required to understand the "lyrics" - just on the fly. 
