Guru-Shishya concert series @ Hamsadhwani

kalyani · Post by **kalyani** » 09 Sep 2007, 10:55

Concert Schedule:

Inaugural Concert on Sept 1st: Disciples of Sulochana Pattabhiraman

Sept 9th: Guru R.K.Padmanabha - Shishya Manasi Prasad (Vocal)

Sept 22nd: Guru K.N.Shashikiran - Shishya Nivedita Narayanan (Vocal)

Sept 23rd: Guru P.S.Narayanaswami - Shishya T.R.Vaidyanathan (Vocal)

Sept 28th: Guru T.R.Rajaram - Shishya Sruthi Kumar (Vocal)

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 09 Sep 2007, 13:43

I suppose Nivedita is our fellow forum-ite. All the best to her for this prestigious opportunity!

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 09 Sep 2007, 21:11

I would think that she is.
My question is, is the format different from any other concert where a SishyA gives vocal support?

nivedita · Post by **nivedita** » 09 Sep 2007, 21:20

Vijay, thank you.

Arasi-ji, all the concerts are by the shishya-s. The guru-s are honoured before the concerts.

Btw, I attended Manasi Prasad's concert today - she was excellent. Will post the song list and a review as soon as I get the time.

giridharan · Post by **giridharan** » 09 Sep 2007, 22:17

Manasi Prasad is an IIM , Bangalore graduate who has taken a decision boldly to persue Muscic as her career as revealed by her in an interview to a Television Channel.

A Bold decision indeed!Let her come out in flying colours in Music too.

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 09 Sep 2007, 23:07

You're welcome Nivedita. I would have loved to come for your concert but duty beckons and I am off again tomorrow morning.

Good to hear that Manasi Prasad is doing well - we had a long discussion earlier on her giving up "Goldman's Sacks" for the sake of Carnatic Music! If nothing else, it is good to know that our favourite art is worth so much! Unfortunately I was too busy wrapping up things to attend any concerts today...a report would be nice

nivedita · Post by **nivedita** » 29 Sep 2007, 17:40

8th September
Vocal: Manasi Prasad
Violin: S.Karthik
Mridangam: Kumbakonam Swaminathan

Song list:

1.viribONi (varNam) - bhairavi - khaNDa aTa - Pacchimiriam Adiyappiyer (Raga Sketch)
2.shashi vadanA - candrajyOti - Adi - Tyagaraja (R,S)
3.mAnasa guruguha rUpam - Anandabhairavi - rUpakam - Muthuswamy Dikshithar (R)
4.vinarAdA nA manavi - dEvagAndhAri - Adi - Tyagaraja
5.RTP - tODi - khaNDa tripuTa (2 kaLai)
6.rangana tOrisO vADirAja - maNirangu - Adi - R.K.Padmanabha
7.tambUri mITi tava - sindubhairavi - Adi - Purandaradasa (Raga Sketch)
8.pavamana (mangaLam) - saurAshTram

I heard her for the first time and she was very good. The concert was well structured, planned and executed. The raga alapana-s were all neat - I particularly liked the way she handled Anandabhairavi. Karthik and Kumbakonam Swaminathan gave good support throughout.

22nd September
Vocal: Nivedita Narayanan
Violin: Arunachala Karthik
Mridangam: Delhi Raja Subramaniam

Song list:

1. sAmi daya jUDa (varNam) - kEdAragauLa - Adi - Tiruvotriyur Thyagaiyer
2. manasu karuga dEmOshi - hamsadhwani - rUpakam - Patnam Subramanya Iyer (S)
3. mA ramaNan - hindOLam - tisra Eka (2 kaLai) - Papanasam Sivan (R)
4. upacAramu jEsE - bhairavi - rUpakam - Tyagaraja (R,N,S)
5. gurulEkha eTuvaNTi - gaurimanOhari - khaNDa cApu - Tyagaraja
6. shrI venkaTEsha nA manavi - phalamanjari - Adi - Tyagaraja
7. akhilANDEshwari - jujAvanti - Adi (2 kaLai) - Muthuswamy Dikshithar (R,S,T)
8. appuDu manasu (jAvaLi) - khamAs - rUpakam - Patnam Subramanya Iyer
9. kshaNamEva gaNyamanyE - bauLi - Adi - Oothukkadu Venkata Kavi
10. nA dhiranA (tillAnA) - kAnaDA - Adi - Jayachamaraja Wodeyar
11. makuTakE mangaLam - madhyamAvati - Adi - Purandaradasa

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 29 Sep 2007, 21:41

Is the poster also the performer of the second concert?
The gowrimanOhari kriti was very appropriate for this particular concert series!!!

Manasi Prasad can be heard on RadioVerve and is an extremely articulate young lady, in addition to being a good singer.
tambUri mIti tava = tambUri mITidava...

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 29 Sep 2007, 22:08

Yes, it is the same Nivedita. She has sung an OVK song.
A review by someone who attended the concert would be nice.

In Manasi Prasad's concert, she has sung a composition by a modern composer--musician R.K.Padmanabha.

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 29 Sep 2007, 22:09

Thanks Nivedita - hope you had a good time at the concert! Taking up Dwijavanthi as the main piece is quite daring and as Ravi says, Gurulekha was a very apt choice. All the best for the future!

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 29 Sep 2007, 22:11

IIRC Manasi Prasad is RK Padmanabha's student - in which case that's apt choice #2!

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 30 Sep 2007, 01:51

You are right, Vijay. One can find it at the very top of the thread! As you say, her singing his song was guru vandanA too.

nivedita · Post by **nivedita** » 30 Sep 2007, 08:01

Thanks Nivedita - hope you had a good time at the concert!

Yup, I did. (http://nivedita-n.livejournal.com/)

All the best for the future!

Thank you

Shri R.K.Padmanabha's kriti was very nice. If my memory serves me right, it had the rAga mudrA incorporated in the pallavi like this: rangana tOrisO vADirAja maNi - rangana pADisO tyAgarAja.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 30 Sep 2007, 08:53

Nivedita,
I have seen your posts in the past on the song lists of concerts of your gurus. I knew that you were a serious student.
I went to your journal just now and saw some of your blogs. Your sense of humor is very appealing. The 'wedding concert' is a highly entertaining piece. My! You DO look like you are 28, for a 20 year old in those pictures. THAT old! Seriously, it is only the stage that looks old, like some of us!
Hope I can listen to you in concert too. So long as I do not show my rAgA ignorance, I would not be remarked upon in your blogs.
Good singing and learning--oh, the academic part too...

nivedita · Post by **nivedita** » 30 Sep 2007, 18:33

Thank you very much, arasi-ji. It would be my privilege to have you listen to me in concert

sbala · Post by **sbala** » 30 Sep 2007, 18:47

Nivedita,
Your blog is refreshing. I will send my requests through Arasi. That way, the sahitya would not get mangled before it reaches you/your mom.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 30 Sep 2007, 20:05

I am sure your tamizh is better than what you think. If you were paying a compliment to me, I say thank you!

nivedita · Post by **nivedita** » 01 Oct 2007, 17:37

@sbala:

Your blog is refreshing.

Thank you.

I will send my requests through Arasi. That way, the sahitya would not get mangled before it reaches you/your mom.

lol.

Jigyaasa · Post by **Jigyaasa** » 03 Oct 2007, 13:26

Goldman Sachs vs CM!!! TOO GOOD... Its extremely inspiring to hear about ppl like Manasi, considering I'm working towards getting in to an IIM myself but am also learning music professionally and am very serious about it... As a matter of fact, Goldman Sachs even comes down to my college to offer placements.
And tambUri mITidava reminds me of a small anecdote my friend had once narrated. It seems Shri T.M.Krishna had once pointed out to Manasi that the word was tambUrA and not tambUri, as she had pronounced it while announcing the accompanists for a concert of his at B'lore. She immediately retorted by actually rendering the relevant kriti to illustrate that the word was tambUri in kannaDa! Awesome going!

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 03 Oct 2007, 14:51

I here's wishing that you too will one day give up a job with Goldman for the sake of CM! I think it is a good idea to acquire the qualification and then focus on CM since you always have back-up options - our world is very cruel to unsuccessful musicians...look at Sanjay - I believe that his name is actually a marketing weapon for his company thanks to the number of rasikas in Chennai's corporate circle!

It must take a lot of confidence to retort in that manner but I am wondering if "tamburi" is not a contextual usage i. e the object in the sentence (e.g "Tamburavai X vasippar" versus "X, Tambura" versus "Tamburavil X")...anyway, I am sure being a native kannada speaker, she would have got it right...

cienu · Post by **cienu** » 03 Oct 2007, 18:40

Jigyaasa wrote:Goldman Sachs vs CM!!! TOO GOOD... Its extremely inspiring to hear about ppl like Manasi, considering I'm working towards getting in to an IIM myself but am also learning music professionally and am very serious about it... As a matter of fact, Goldman Sachs even comes down to my college to offer placements.
And tambUri mITidava reminds me of a small anecdote my friend had once narrated. It seems Shri T.M.Krishna had once pointed out to Manasi that the word was tambUrA and not tambUri, as she had pronounced it while announcing the accompanists for a concert of his at B'lore. She immediately retorted by actually rendering the relevant kriti to illustrate that the word was tambUri in kannaDa! Awesome going!

I was there during this concert when this incident took place , sometime during midnight of Jan 25th 2006 (to celeberate Republic Day) at IIM Bangalore. This was a dusk to dawn series of concerts which I look forward to attend every year at IIMB.

I do not remember Manasi correcting Krishna immediately. Possibly she had informed him later. Most musicians from Tamilnadu need to understand that in Karnataka , Mridangam is pronounced as Mridanga , Khanjira as Khanjari , Ghatam as Ghata , Tambura as Tamburi. Possibly Krishna was not aware ( as are most performers from TN) , but considering that he performs in Bangalore atleast once in a month , this is something he should know by now.

rbsiyer · Post by **rbsiyer** » 03 Oct 2007, 19:16

vijay wrote:You're welcome Nivedita. I would have loved to come for your concert but duty beckons and I am off again tomorrow morning.

Good to hear that Manasi Prasad is doing well - we had a long discussion earlier on her giving up "Goldman's Sacks" for the sake of Carnatic Music! If nothing else, it is good to know that our favourite art is worth so much! Unfortunately I was too busy wrapping up things to attend any concerts today...a report would be nice

while one wishes this singer the best, and does not wish to detract from her commitment to music, i hardly think this is so unusual or in any way a "sacrifice".

there are singers in this country who have taken far greater risks and taken the "plunge" in a truer sense. i can think of a few examples off-hand: sowmya (iit?), charulatha mani (guindy engg), trichur ramachandran who dropped out of medicine etc. there are many more i am sure.

the decision to take up music *full-time* is far more courageous i.e. as opposed to choosing an india-based job (also well-paid i'm sure!) instead of overseas.

the difference between amateur and professional musicians is usually very evident too. i strongly feel this is one of the causes of lowering of standards.

again, this is in way of a general observation and is not to detract from anyone's effforts to pursue classical music. an amateur or part-time pursuit of the art is infinitely better than not taking it up.

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 03 Oct 2007, 23:13

vijay wrote:It must take a lot of confidence to retort in that manner but I am wondering if "tamburi" is tnot a contextual usage i. e the object in the sentence (e.g "Tamburavai X vasippar" versus "X, Tambura" versus "Tamburavil X")...anyway, I am sure being a native kannada speaker, she would have got it right...

It is not contextual usage.

tambUri is the noun in kannaDa

tambUriyannu nuDisu

tambUri nuDisu

tambUriyaa nAda

tambUrige jIvALa hAKu

are the different case endings.

I am reminded of two kannaDa songs with the word tamboori right in the pallavi

tambUri mITidava bhavAbdi dATidava (purandara dAsa)

taravalla tagi ninna tambUri svara, bidade bArisadiru tambUri (shishunALa sharrief)

-Ramakriya

Jigyaasa · Post by **Jigyaasa** » 04 Oct 2007, 00:21

@Vijay, thank u so much for the wishes. If God wills it, then I'm sure it'll happen

gravikiran · Post by **gravikiran** » 04 Oct 2007, 00:37

i was on stage playing the "tambura" for my guru when this happened.
what happened was rather informal and casual.
manasi prasad used the kannada term "tamburi" while sri tm krishna pointed it out to her that the correct sanskrit term was "tambura".
she gracefully corrected herself and there ended the whole thing - without any love lost

on an aside, i do remember manasi prasad telling me that she is currently working for a leading investment bank here in bangalore.

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 04 Oct 2007, 10:54

Aha, Mr. X surfaces! Thanks for the clarifications Ramakriya and Ravikiran...Jigyaasa you're welcome...

Ramakriya could you give me the meaning of the Pallavi line of Tamburi Meettidava - it is a lovely piece. I have so far understood it as "Strum the tambura" but something tells me I am striking the wrong note there!

Jigyaasa · Post by **Jigyaasa** » 04 Oct 2007, 20:31

Ooh! @gravikiran, I guess tales always have the tendency to get sensationalised while travelling thru word of mouth

... No wonder my version sounded slightly audacious!

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 04 Oct 2007, 22:14

vijay wrote:Ramakriya could you give me the meaning of the Pallavi line of Tamburi Meettidava - it is a lovely piece. I have so far understood it as "Strum the tambura" but something tells me I am striking the wrong note there!

Vijay,

Here is the sAhitya for the ugAbhOga:

tambUri mITidava bhavAbdhi dATidava
tALava taTTidava suraroLu sEridava
gejjeya kaTTidava kharaLede meTTidava
gAyana pADidava harimUruti nODidava
purandara viTTalana nODidava vaikuNThakke Odidva

He who strums the tambUri, he who crosses the ocean of life
He who keeps the rythm, he who becomes one with celestials
He who wears the anklets, he who stamps the chest of wicked men
He who sings, he who sees Hari
One who sees Purandara vithala
Is the one who sprints to VaikunTha

-Ramakriya

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 04 Oct 2007, 22:17

Thanks Ramakriya - a lyric worhty of the tune!

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 04 Oct 2007, 22:30

Great translation,
Ramakriya!

Suji Ram · Post by **Suji Ram** » 04 Oct 2007, 22:35

I like the way TRS sings this piece. One can feel/hear/see the "sprint" in the way he sings those lines last lines

ramakriya · Post by **ramakriya** » 04 Oct 2007, 22:35

Thanks Arasi, Vijay.

As you can see, I have left the postfix

-Ramakriya

thanjavooran · Post by **thanjavooran** » 24 Oct 2007, 20:26

Few years back I had a chance to enjoy a whistling concert by a young school student by name Nivedita at Raga sudha hall. She was a disciple of Suguna purushothaman. Is that girl and this Nivedita one and the same. Since the elctronic media technicians came late the poor girl was asked to perform once again for a coverage.

nivedita · Post by **nivedita** » 25 Oct 2007, 09:52

No, thanjavooran, we're not the same. I'm a disciple of Shri Shashikiran. The artiste you are referring to, I believe is T.S.Nivedita.