Varalis,Gowlais,Bhairavis

balusatya · Post by **balusatya** » 18 Dec 2007, 21:15

It is nice to hear RTP with the Ragas with these titles this season.Can we start the thread with Kritis in each Raga(Group)Bharavi,Vasantha Bhairavi,Salaka Bhairavi,Nata Bhai..,Varali,P.Varali,K.Varali,prathapa,Vasantha(Pahi rama Dhotha)..&Gaulai....

vageyakara · Post by **vageyakara** » 19 Dec 2007, 06:47

Kusuma varaLi. Kuntala kusuma varali, kanaka varali, gaNA SAMA VARALI, KUNTAL,A VARALI, kOKILAVARALI, Chalana varali ,chithra varali subha pantu varali,,siva pantu varali tALi varali,Dhira varali, Naga varali, Nama varali, Bhinna varali, Poorva varavali
List of other ragas in the Varali Group.
Note : Most of the above have no popular/fullfledged kritis .
Ramaraj

balusatya · Post by **balusatya** » 19 Dec 2007, 18:13

good info.

Vocalist · Post by **Vocalist** » 20 Dec 2007, 08:08

*nagasvarali

srinivasrgvn · Post by **srinivasrgvn** » 20 May 2009, 13:25

Vocalist wrote:*nagasvarali

I thought it was 'nagaswaravali'! Isn't it?

srinivasrgvn · Post by **srinivasrgvn** » 20 May 2009, 13:35

Some Gowlais:

gowlai
nArAyanagowlai or harikEdhAragowlai
kEdhAragowlai
mAyAmAlavagowlai?
kannadagowlai
rIthigowlai
nArireethigowla
How about gowlipanthu??

Some Bhairavis:

bhairavi
vasanthabhairavi
sindhubhairavi
natabhairavi
Anandhabhairavi
chalagabhairavi
shAradhabhairavi
sOmabhairavi
vAtivasanthabhairavi
Adibhairavi
lalithabhairavi
janyabhairavi
pUrnabhairavi
udayabhairavi
yOgabhairavi
shuddhabhairavi
simhalabhairavi
bhOgibhairavi
jOgibhairavi
surabhairavi
jingalabhairavi
sundarabhairavi
kanakabhairavi

keerthi · Post by **keerthi** » 20 May 2009, 14:40

vageyakara wrote: Kuntala kusuma varali,
List of other ragas in the Varali Group.
Note : Most of the above have no popular/fullfledged kritis .

Ramaraj

Is there such a rAga, I think it must be kuntala-kusumavali, which has compositions by H.Yoganarasimham and tiruvottriur thyagayyar..

And the gaulanta ragas should include chAyagaula and pUrvagaula

svkashyap · Post by **svkashyap** » 27 May 2009, 17:22

Do the words gowla, varali and such words found in many raga names have meaning in any language?

keerthi · Post by **keerthi** » 29 May 2009, 16:50

It is possible to attribute a meaning to them in Sanskrit.. However, gauLa is believed to have a regional orinal from the gaudA-deSa.. varAti or varAtika/varADi is one of the pUrva-prasiddha meLas.. and there is no way to discern the meaning..

gn.sn42 · Post by **gn.sn42** » 29 May 2009, 21:46

Here is some information on varali at the Carnatica web site.

And in an article on kedaragowla the author says that "gowla" means "white".

keerthi · Post by **keerthi** » 29 May 2009, 23:14

It can be construed to mean white.. There are rules in sanskrit grammar, which say r, L and D are interchangable on certain occasions..

Gaura definitely means white.. So gauLa can be treated as an equivalent..

Most of the old rAga names either indicated a region or had no traceable meaning..It is only the new kanti-s priya-s and angi-s that have some semblance of a meaning..

All of these names can't be ascribed a definite meaning - takka, paraj, HinDola, todi, kamAj, mukhAri etc..

garavasimhala · Post by **garavasimhala** » 01 Jun 2009, 15:59

Even I had that doubt! Is it nagasvarali or nagaswaravali?

keerthi · Post by **keerthi** » 01 Jun 2009, 21:11

it is the latter..

svkashyap · Post by **svkashyap** » 02 Jun 2009, 13:42

Thanks keerthi and gn.sn42 for the information.