Sanjay @ Mudra

s_hari · Post by **s_hari** » 29 Dec 2007, 12:12

Vid Sanjay Subramanian - Vocal
Vid S Varadaraja - Violin
Vid B Harikumar - Mridangam
Vid Udupi Sridhar - ghatam

1. Varnam - Neelambari
2. Brocheva - Sriranjani - tyagaraja
3. Sudhamayi - Amritavarshini (Raga alapana) - Muthaiah Bhagavathar
4. Abhimana - Begada (Raga alapana, swarams at Abhimana) - Pattnam subramanya iyer
5. Enneramum - Devagandhari - GKB
6. Srinivasa tava charanam - Kharaharapriya - Papanasam sivan (Raga alapana, neraval & swaram at kamalaja manohara)
......
(I had to leave after this, someone else may complete)

Another great selection of songlist. Amritavarshini ragaa was detailed, but the keerthana was too fast. Could have been little slower. Begada alapana & keerthana was sung well bringing out bhavam. Swarams for kharaharapriya keerthana had too much kanakku, i haven't seen Sanjay indulging in kanakku before. He started devagandhari kriti with anu pallavi line - tennancOlai tazhaikkum.

Kharaharapriya alapana was very detailed, and i liked it very much.

-hari

mahavishnu · Post by **mahavishnu** » 29 Dec 2007, 17:52

Is the varnam is neelambari by LGJ?

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 29 Dec 2007, 20:00

Doubt it. Sanjay prefers vintage composers.
Two srIranjanIs in a row. He sang bhuvini dAsuDanE in his Bharat Kalachar concert...

mahavishnu · Post by **mahavishnu** » 29 Dec 2007, 20:13

Arasi, You may well be right about this varnam. I would be surprised too if he sang LGJ's varnam in Neelambari.

However, Sanjay does sing "non-vintage" compositions. He sang a kathanakuthukalam varnam by his guru KSK last year at the academy. He also sings Tanjore Kalyanaraman's compositions from time to time.

In any case, nice to hear from you...Trust you are enjoying the season!

Jigyaasa · Post by **Jigyaasa** » 29 Dec 2007, 20:18

And some tuned by Sri Calcutta Krishnamoorthy also IIRC...

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 29 Dec 2007, 21:07

mahavishnu, jigyaasa
You both are right! He does sing his guru's compositions and those of others too. That Kadana kutuhalam varnam is a favorite of mine.
My music season ended yesterday. Today, I am trying to rest my aching bones. I have only been posting in the Twitter and Rasikas Meet thread during my stay in Chennai. Are you still enjoying the season?

mahavishnu · Post by **mahavishnu** » 29 Dec 2007, 21:26

As much as one can from a cold nation far far away.....
This forum is a lifeline for many of us.

Jigyaasa · Post by **Jigyaasa** » 29 Dec 2007, 22:05

VERY MUCH

Vacations in December are DEDICATED to the season... It's a pity it's gonna end

n so are my hols...

ganesh_mourthy · Post by **ganesh_mourthy** » 29 Dec 2007, 22:09

lalgudi varman = non vintage?

I dont understand the meaning here of vintage.

vintage = something of high quality.

or do you mean to say somethng else.

To me all lalgudi compositions are great

Jigyaasa · Post by **Jigyaasa** » 29 Dec 2007, 22:13

i suppose, in this context, vintage=pre-1950 compositions...?

mahavishnu · Post by **mahavishnu** » 29 Dec 2007, 22:32

ganesh_mourthy: I agree with jigyaasa's definition. Vintage, in this context, refers to something that has been aged.
And no question about what you said. LGJ's compositions are top-quality. I wish more vocalists would sing them, their beauty comes out so much more than in an instrumenal rendition.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 29 Dec 2007, 23:29

I meant it in the sense that he hardly sings anything post Subrahmanya Bharati and of course, there are exceptions...

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 29 Dec 2007, 23:50

Sanjay has been "indulging" in kanakku for quite a while now! From as far back as I can remember. I don't think he overdoes it however although at times one misses a sarvalaghu climax when a kannaku kuraippu is done

prashant · Post by **prashant** » 30 Dec 2007, 09:12

IIRC the nIlAmbari varNam Sri Sanjay sings is by tarangambadi panchanada iyer. I think bharath had once posted a review of a concert where this was mentioned.

ganesh_mourthy · Post by **ganesh_mourthy** » 30 Dec 2007, 11:22

well an absurd input here, yet...

what is tharangambadi ? the place near karaikal. someone told me it is out of Tharangam + paadi.
singing tharangam .....

could some knowledged person throw lights?

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 30 Dec 2007, 11:47

ganesh,
That is intresting. pADi refers to a town (Ur, Uru); vANiyampADi, a town of merchants or oil vendors. AyarpADi where krishnA grew up was a locale of cowherds. tarangam is sea (kaDal). So, a town near the sea?

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 30 Dec 2007, 12:27

Also called Tranquebar where there is quaint Bungalow on the Beach by a Danish fort which I hear is a great holiday destination

ganesh_mourthy · Post by **ganesh_mourthy** » 30 Dec 2007, 13:06

yeah that was a early danish settlement. now the fort is taken over by the TAJ .

fine tharangampadi . town close to the sea. of course it is a seashore town. gives a lot of meaning.
i have visited it 15 years back. Had a beautiful temple Maasillaamani kovil ( maasu + illaa = flaw less) which was eroded 4 / 5th even then by the sea.

I still remember standing in the edge of the remnants wondering when the left over will be completely vanish into the sea. Reading tharangambadi in the thread was like a throwback to those days.

Ganesh

apasruthi · Post by **apasruthi** » 30 Dec 2007, 21:06

For those who haven't been to Tranquebar or Tharangambadi(or pAdi). This comes on the way between Cuddalore and Karaikal. The main attraction is the dilapidated Dansborg Fortress and the Konk's street (King's street in Danish). The legend is that the Danish king Christiaan the IV somewhere in the 17th century sent 19 ships in expedition to India to fetch spices to preserve meat, and accordingly the ships reached Tranquebar, and the history has it that only 10 returned to Denmark, the rest would have got lost or some of the Danes would have chosen to marry Indian women and settle there itself. Anyways those who are interested in some history, you can also see a kind of MoU signed between the King of Tanjore and the envoy from the King of Denmark in the fortress and also enjoy the pristine beach, sorroundings, a nice chapel, and if you are lucky then get a few Christiaan the IV coins as souvenir from the beach sands (Don't worry, there are enough guys to chase you down to sell some of them, you can always claim later that you got it from the beach yourselves!)

For a lot of Danes, Tranquebar is a part of their folklore, a far-away land where their heroes have gone by and they learn about it through the rhymes and songs in kindergarten. But surprisingly, most of the Danes don't even know that it actually exists in India, south of Chennai!

So much on TharangampAdi!

Apasruthi

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 30 Dec 2007, 21:16

Thanks Apasruthi! Makes me want to set off immediately

rajeshnat · Post by **rajeshnat** » 30 Dec 2007, 21:45

apasruthi wrote:This comes on the way between Pondicherry and Cuddalore.

Wrong here , comes in between cuddalore and KAraikAl.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 30 Dec 2007, 22:58

Tarangambadi was one of the towns severely affected by the Tsunami. I wonder if the Maasillaamani kovil and the fort survived ( I do not know how close is the fort to the sea shore ).

Thanks apasruthi on the history lesson. I did not have a clue. If I meet any Danish person, I will ask for some Tranquebar nursery rhymes..

rshankar · Post by **rshankar** » 31 Dec 2007, 05:30

rajeshnat wrote:Wrong here , comes in between cuddalore and KAraikAl.

Makes more sense, because I do not remember it being between Cuddalore and Pondy - being that I did that route so many times!

apasruthi · Post by **apasruthi** » 31 Dec 2007, 09:39

Thanks all. I have corrected the post to Cuddalore and Karaikkal. I vaguely remember that after leaving Pondy one morning somewhere before or after Cuddalore it came. It was 6 years back and much before Tsunami, so I don't know post that.

VK, yes that's the whole idea. Tell it to as many Danes as possible, not just for Rhymes but to also make them fund for improvement in that place. Danes are sitting on pots of monies to be spent on developing world!

Apasruthi

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 31 Dec 2007, 11:11

the neelambari varnam that sanjay usually sings is 'nI vaNTi deivamu' in aTa tALam. composition of panchananda iyer as prashant was mentioning.

rbharath · Post by **rbharath** » 31 Dec 2007, 11:11

however, this might be a different one.

ganesh_mourthy · Post by **ganesh_mourthy** » 01 Jan 2008, 23:26

thanrangambadi is far away from cuddalore. just only 7 kms from karaikal

harimau · Post by **harimau** » 02 Jan 2008, 07:04

rajeshnat wrote:
apasruthi wrote:This comes on the way between Pondicherry and Cuddalore.
Wrong here , comes in between cuddalore and KAraikAl.

Let us narrow it down further. Between Sirkazhi and Karaikkal.

The Masillamaninathar Temple is still standing after the tsunami. The utsava idols have been moved off to a nearby structure.

Large rocks have been dumped along the seashore to prevent further erosion. The Danesborg fort is still standing and was not affected by the tsunami.

Three hundred years ago, Bartholomeus Ziegenbalg, a German missionary, landed in Tranquebar and set about trying to convert the locals to Christianity. He learnt Tamil, set up the first printing press in Tamil Nadu, and printed the Tamil translation of the Bible. A couple of pages can be seen at the museum in one of the churches; hopefully, a full copy survives somewhere.

As opposed to CSI (the Church of South India, the Protestant church organization), Ziegenbalg's church is known as Tamil Evangelical Lutheran Church, the word "Lutheran" being the more common usage in Europe as opposed to "Protestant".

The main street is full of churches and church-supported schools. Local fishermen's children attend these schools in large numbers sporting vibhuthi (holy ash) and kumkum (for girls) on their foreheads. Ziegenbalg's efforts seemingly have not borne much fruit nor does propaganda about the tsunami being caused by belief in false gods.... I actually heard a priest say this in a school assembly.

Bungalow on the Beach is a Neemrana hotel, not a Taj hotel. The office of the Tanjore Collectorate (of the Danes) has been restored and turned into this hotel. The ground floor is authentically restored; the columns of the upper floor are not exact replicas. The restaurant serves outrageously priced meals and doesn't have a liquor license. The rooms go for Rs 5000+ a night, a princely sum in Tharangampadi.

The nearby Governor's Palace is still in ruins; years of efforts by Neemrana Hotels to acquire and restore it have been in vain due to the dog-in-the-manger attitude of the state government.

Tharangampadi indeed does mean Singing Waves.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 02 Jan 2008, 08:56

Thanks harimau.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&t ... &z=10&om=1

Also, can someone mark the temple, fort etc. on this google satellite map...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&t ... &z=17&om=1

gn.sn42 · Post by **gn.sn42** » 02 Jan 2008, 09:09

vasanthakokilam wrote:can someone mark the temple, fort etc. on this google satellite map...

Try Wikimapia:

http://wikimapia.org/#lat=11.02575&lon= ... =0&m=a&v=2

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 02 Jan 2008, 09:31

Nice. Thanks.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 02 Jan 2008, 10:33

Spring cuckoo,
This year, I was lucky to savor two weeks of the season. As a castaway, I have felt the longings which comes out of being so far away from the musical feast. Nostalgia rules, and it extends to places as well, as this thread indicates. Not a bad idea to have a separate thread for the birth place of composers, don't you think?

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 02 Jan 2008, 11:00

Excellent idea Arasi. That jives with a few thoughts I have been having( rather rants ) about the lack of in depth real history about our composers. May be a topic about their birth places or where they lived would add flesh to such details. With Google satellite maps, we get a more realistic picture as well. We will work on the most logical place to put those topics/threads of discussion so they do not get scattered. Thanks.

Svaapana · Post by **Svaapana** » 04 Jan 2008, 19:54

Song list after Karaharapriya:

7. Kanmaniye - Saranga - Adi - Malavai Chidambara Bharathi
8. RTP - Gowlai - Tanam in ganaragapanchamam - Pallavi had the following words - Karunai varumo kandha namai kathurala and in Adi talam.
9. Nagumomu - Aberi - Adi - T
10. Modi jesi - Javali in Khamas - Adi - Pattabhiramayya
11. Vizhikku thunai - Viruttam - Sindhubhairavi followed by Manadirku - Sindhubhairavi - Tanjore Sankara Iyer,and
12. Mangalam

The RTP was simply awesome. Never heard Gowlai sung so elaborately and beautifully.
Nogumomu as post RTP piece came as a pleasant surprise..