Jhinjoti or Senjurutti

[sramaswamy]

Recently I came across the ragam - Jhinjoti. When I tried to search for some more information and example songs I did not find many references. Wait! Let me correct that. I am finding quite a few references under Hindustani and not many under Carnatic. But while googling, I find that the Senjurutti /Chenchurutti seems to have same Arohanam/Avarohanam.

So my question is Jhinjoti and Senjurutti - are they the same? If they are almost the same, but there are are some subtle differences, would someone enlighten me on those.

I will also appreciate someone sharing the clips that bring out the essence of the ragam.

Thanks in advance.

[kmrasika]

I don't think there's much difference from the Karnatic She~njcuruTTi vs the Hindusthani jhi~njjhoTi. save that the latter doesn't have all that much ornamentation of sangatis as the former has.

She~njcuruTTi IINM is derived from folk origins, and is quite a popular rAga evidenced by the many compositions in it. I've given a truncated list below. Maybe some kind posters can provide audio samples.

1. mA nAyakA nIdu (svarajati) - vAlAjapETTai venkaTramaNa bhAgavatar
2. vinarAdu gadarA - - do -
3. kalayE ShrI kamala nayana - svAti tirunAL
4. rAma rAma rAma - tyAgarAja
5. gajAmba nAyakO - muttusvAmi dIkshita
6. gaNESha kumAra pAhimAM - - do -
7. gangE mAmpAhi - - do -
8. ShrI jagadamba kadamba - Anai ayyA
9. gOkulatteru - UttukkADu
10. dvArakai enpatu - - do -
11. Sholla kiDaittaDE - do -
12. naDaiyaippAraDi - do -
13. viShamakkAra kaNNan - do -
14. cidambaram pOgAmal iruppEnO - GKB
15. pittam teliya - do -
16. kumara gurupara - aruNagirinAdar
17. nAdabindu kalAti namo nama - - do -
18. parama mangala mUrti - vijaya viTThala dAsa
19. kaliyugadalli hari nAmave - purandaradAsa
20. pandADinAl parama sundarar - sundarEShvara Sharma
21. dhiranA tana dhImta (tillAnA) - vINai ShEshanna
22. pazhani shaNmuga (kAvaDiccindu)
23. vaLLi kaNavan pErai (kAvaDiccindu) - ambAsamudram subbarAya svAmi
24. che~njcuruTTi - Dr. Brazil Subramaniam
25. cennikula nagarvAsan (kAvaDiccindu) - annAmalai reDDiyar

In jhi~njjhoTi:
1. kahAnke pathik kahA kInho - tulasIdAsa

[ramakriya]

I don't think there's much difference from the Karnatic She~njcuruTTi vs the Hindusthani jhi~njjhoTi. save that the latter doesn't have all that much ornamentation of sangatis as the former has.

Depends on how you see it.. There are very elaborate renditions of hindUstANi jhinjhOTi - Actually it is much more important rAga than our jhanjUTi which at best gets a small devaranAma/bhajan/shlOka or a part of a rAGamAlika.

Many sanchAras in hindustani jhanjhUTi are very similar to our own grand rAgas kaMbhOji and yadukula kAmbhOji.



-Ramakriya

[Lakshman]

kmrasika:
I am curious about the composer of vaLLI kaNavan pErai. Where did you locate this information?

[rshankar]

AFAIK, the story about 'vaLLikkaNavan peyarai' as published in the booklet that accompanies one of Amudham Inc.'s CDs (By Sudha) is that this was a chindu that was given to Smt. DKP by a police constable in Madras after one of her concerts, and all the recognition he wanted was for her to sing it. Despite all efforts, Amudham's team was not able to trace the person...has this person been identified as subburAya swAmi?
Ravi

[kmrasika]

Unfortunately, the site where I found the reference to the author of the piece has gone defunct. It did contend that DKP and DKJ popularized it. The tune has become quite popular and Smt. Suguna Purushottaman and Smt. Seetha Narayanan have both composed songs based on the same.

[Vocalist]

Actually, DKP/DKJ also popularised another kavadi chindu with the same tune as "Valli Kanavan" - she may have even tuned it. Nithyashree renders it in her Bharathiyar Songs album - an unfortunately 'light-classical' album.

[Radhakrishnan]

Soulful rendition of RAmalinga Swami thiruvarutpa by KVN.

http://rapidshare.de/files/32720854/che ... y.mp3.html

[CSS]

Hindustani Jhinjoti is nowhere close to Senchuriti !


Jhinjoti is infact very close to Kambhoji but it's flavour is very different. If Kambhoji can be 'robust', Jhinjoti is 'serene and calm'

[ramakriya]

Hindustani Jhinjoti is nowhere close to Senchuriti !


Jhinjoti is infact very close to Kambhoji but it's flavour is very different. If Kambhoji can be 'robust', Jhinjoti is 'serene and calm'

Aptly said, CSS. In that respect, it is more like yadhukula kAmbhOji , which shines well in viLamba kALa.

-Ramakriya

[arasi]

Radhakrishnan,
You made my day. What a combination of Ramalinga Swami's gem of a verse and KVN's feeling one with it and giving us the rasAnubhavA!

[CSS]

For those who may like to listen, there is a wonderful three minute piece of Jhinjoti in Lata Mangeshkar's rendering of the Bhagavat Gita Chapter 9. She has been accompanied by Chaurasia and SK Sharma in that released in the early 70s, with music by Hrdayanath Mangeshkar.

[ushasree]

raagam: jhinjoTi
28 harikaambhOji janya
Aa: D2 S R2 G3 M1 P D2 N2
Av: D2 P M1 G3 R2 S N2 D2 P D2
I came across a composition of muthuswamy deekshitaar ,Ganesha kumara pahimaam.
I noticed the arohana and avarohana start with D2 instead of S.Is there any specific reason for this?Can anyone enlighten me on this....
Thank you

[humdinger]

sorry for the degression...
is this based on jhinjhoTi?
http://www.tlca.com/music/srr-tlca-6.m3u

famed telugu film music composer of yesteryears, S.Rajeswara Rao singing one of his all time hits. beautiful lyrics there, if you can understand.

[bhaktha]

@ushasree,
I guess the same is true of all ragams that are sung in madhyama sruti (nAdanAmakriyA for eg.), as their range is usually restricted.
-bhaktha

[thanjavur]

Duplicate topic of

Index » Raga & Alapana » Jhinjoti or Senjurutti by sramaswamy

[ajaysimha]

hello @SrinathK ,
could you give an analysis of this ragam?

thanks in advance,
ajay simha

[karnatikkitta]

This is an excellent resource on Jhinjoti with clips from films as well: https://www.parrikar.org/hindustani/khamaj/. Enjoy!

[SrinathK]

All of you may please hold the horses. jhinjhOTi isn't even the name in CM. It is a HM rAgA quite different from senchuruTTi and as pointed out earlier, is more similar to a "dEsified kAmbhOji" than anything else. The CM name in the Dikshitar school is junjUTi and there are some differences between it and modern senchuruTTi. There are also some differences between senchuruTTi's classical and folk variants as well.

More on this after some more research.

[ajaysimha]

i just got reminded of a joke from anninyan movie
where actor vivek gives various permutations of the word "kumbi pakam" like
kabim kubam - kubam kabim - kambi kumba - kumba kambi ... and etc.

in the same way i have heard/read the name of this ragam spelt as
janjuti-janjooti/ jinjuti-jinjooti/ junjuti-junjooti ... and also majourly confused with senjurutti

a few add-on's to srinath's post

janya of:
hari-kamboji

scale:
Ar: d S R G M P D N
Av: D P M G R S n p d S

range of ragam:
from lower octave pa to middle octave ni

madhyama shruthi ragam:
this ragam sounds good if sung in madhyama shruthi

allied ragams:
this ragam uses the phrase (n p d S) in the lower octave and swaram da is given a gentle gamakam
which may sound as kamboji
even the ragam tarangini aka sudha tarangini also sounds a litte similar.

raga mudra:
yeah dikshithar uses the raga mudra of janjuti
in the phrase "su-janjUTi rAga pAnaH"(in the krithi "gajAmbA nAyakO")

compositions:
amongst the popular ones:
dikshitar's: gajAmbA nAyakO and ganje mam pahi
veene sheshanna's: jathiswara and thillana
(yet to discover ...)

[Lakshman]

ajaysimha wrote:

veene sheshanna's: jathiswara and thillana
(yet to discover ...)

What exactly did you mean when you say yet to discover?

[ajaysimha]

haha... i meant- i'm yet to discover the other songs in this ragam

[Lakshman]

I have 456 songs listed in cenjuruTi and 18 in jhanjhUTi in my INdex.

[SrinathK]

Lakshman sir, you are flying so high that where you are can't be seen from down here

[Lakshman]

Srinath: If I am flying so high, how come I can still see all the requests for notations? !!!

[RSR]

I will refer to the CM ragam as Chenchurutti. This ragam has been the favorite of Smt.MS Subbulakshmi, right from her first disc, 'maragatha' given at the tender age of ten. , right through her singing career. nearly 70 years. She has sung full kritis in this ragam ( purandaradasa...kaliyuga , Barathy's 'mannum imayamalai'(78 rpm special),, vaasudeva kamalaasana (telugu), 'naadhabindhu kalaadhi', ) and so many of her ragamalikas ( first stanza of maalaip pozhuthinile) and a lot more ) . Enadhu uLLame another gem , I believe in this ragam.
From the points made by esteemed rasikas , it appears that jinjothi of HM is not like our Chenchurutti at all!
I have a few queries.
1) Have other famous singers in CM made use of chenchurutti as often as Smt.MS has done?
2) Is ThyagarajaSwami's 'junjoothi', the same as Chenchurutti? Is there any rendition of the kritis?
3) Have MD and Shyama Sastry given us any kriti? in this Chenchurutti?

[Lakshman]

Dikshitar has three songs in jhanjuti ans Shyama Shastri has n compositions in this raga.

[CRama]

MS has sang Gange mam pahi in Chenjuruti of Deekshitar, Pranatharthiharam of Vasudevachar as also the Veene Seshanna Tillana in the same ragam.

DKP has sung Gajamba nayako in this ragam.

Maharajapuram santhanam has sung Ganesakumara in this ragam- compostion of Deekshitar

[RSR]

@27-> Lakshman_ji and @28 -> CRama , Thank you Sirs.
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sangeethapriya - Thyagaraja kritis- site mentions two kritis.
navanIta-chOra jenjUti and rAma-rAma-rAma jenjUti
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https://youtu.be/wkCLrKwcZ7A
Dr.Panthula Rama singing Navanitha Chora- ..but the ragam is mentioned as Navroj,-
Is it correct?

[tsshreevidya]

https://youtu.be/6XhhcEhGCCI

Plz check above link for some information about jhanjuti

[Lakshman]

RSR wrote:

https://youtu.be/wkCLrKwcZ7A
Dr.Panthula Rama singing Navanitha Chora- ..but the ragam is mentioned as Navroj,-
Is it correct?

Yes. She sings it in Navaroj. I am not sure where I got the song details that are posted in Karnatik.com. It may be from Kalluri Virabhadra Shastri's book.