Today is Basava Jayanti.
Even though Basavanna probably did not anticipate his works would become musical creations, over the centuries, they have become so.
This post now shows some such examples of vachanas - both audio and video:
A somewhat-musical post about Basavanna:
chakOrange chandramana beLakina chinte: http://neelanjana.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/
-Ramakriya
Remembering Basavanna on Basava Jayanti
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knandago2001
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Truly a labor of love! Thanks Ramakriya - I was amazed by the reference to the 32 ragas in Basavanna's vacana: I had no idea that this predates the earliest references in the hari dasa koota literature by (?) nearly two centuries. What a find!! Also, how carefully the ragas must have been nurtured and nourished by those composers.. Many thanks for the audio clips.. is there a chance we'll get a clip of you singing a vacana?
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ramakriya
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Nandagopal,
Thanks for the good words.
Yes, Basavanna predates the earliest dAsas ( Sripadaraya - born 1404 AD) by more than 2 centuries ( 1134 AD - 1194 AD as per Wikipedia, but I thought Basavanna passed when he was younger than that).
As for as I singing any vachana? may be sometime I will do that
and upload a clip.
-Ramakriya
Thanks for the good words.
Yes, Basavanna predates the earliest dAsas ( Sripadaraya - born 1404 AD) by more than 2 centuries ( 1134 AD - 1194 AD as per Wikipedia, but I thought Basavanna passed when he was younger than that).
As for as I singing any vachana? may be sometime I will do that
and upload a clip.-Ramakriya
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Sreeni Rajarao
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Ramakriya,
That is a nice writeup!
I have been wondering why Basavanna's (and other Shiva sharanas) vachanas are not chosen by Carnatic musicians for renditions.
In an effort to promote Kannada SangIta, my Father Veena Raja Rao had teamed up with Kannada SAhitya Parishat and published Shiva sharanara kritigaLu as far back as 1952, and Basaveshvara vachana gAnamanjari in 1970.
About 100 vachanas have been set to musical notation in these two books.
I have with me some paper clippings from 1940s that document my Father's concerts (both vocal and veena) where all the items rendered were kannada kritis (Dasara padas, shiva sharana vachanas).
I am sure many of you are aware of Aa na Kru's initiative that was the prime mover behind Mallikarjuna Mansur reluctantly taking up vachana gAyana.
I enjoyed your tribute to Basavanna.
Sreeni Rajarao
That is a nice writeup!
I have been wondering why Basavanna's (and other Shiva sharanas) vachanas are not chosen by Carnatic musicians for renditions.
In an effort to promote Kannada SangIta, my Father Veena Raja Rao had teamed up with Kannada SAhitya Parishat and published Shiva sharanara kritigaLu as far back as 1952, and Basaveshvara vachana gAnamanjari in 1970.
About 100 vachanas have been set to musical notation in these two books.
I have with me some paper clippings from 1940s that document my Father's concerts (both vocal and veena) where all the items rendered were kannada kritis (Dasara padas, shiva sharana vachanas).
I am sure many of you are aware of Aa na Kru's initiative that was the prime mover behind Mallikarjuna Mansur reluctantly taking up vachana gAyana.
I enjoyed your tribute to Basavanna.
Sreeni Rajarao
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arasi
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Very nice translation too, Ramakriya.
Yes, would be nice if vocalists include BasavaNNA's verses in their concerts. While PurandaradAsA happens to figure in concerts by non-kannaDigA vocalists, BasavaNNA is barely sung by them, I think. What a different texture it would lend, considering the philosophical content of vacanAs...
Yes, would be nice if vocalists include BasavaNNA's verses in their concerts. While PurandaradAsA happens to figure in concerts by non-kannaDigA vocalists, BasavaNNA is barely sung by them, I think. What a different texture it would lend, considering the philosophical content of vacanAs...
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coolkarni
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Wonderful Ramakriya.Sorry for being late .
Here are a few pages from a book that I can gift you , the next time you are in India
http://rapidshare.com/files/114263522/Basaveswara.doc
Let me tell you about my first experience of Vachana Sangeetha.
In my younger days , Mansoor was not one of my favourites , simply because my brain was not upto that quality of Music.
So when My Dad would goad me to accompany him to a late night Vachana-concert by Siddaram Jambaldinni , I would be left wondering whether that was the best way to spend an evening.
An evening that meant walking 15 mts to our town busstand, travel to Davangere 14 kms away , standing in a crowded bus, walk 20 minutes to the Shivayogi mandira and catch a late night Lorry ride back home.
Walking with Dad was not a very pleasant experience either.
Because he believed in walking at a pace that would ensure my little heart would pump blood to reach and every farthest capilliary.
In short , it would be running , for me.
The entrance to the Shivayogi Mandira would depict a scene that is ample testimony to your statement that I quote.
Since slippers would not be allowed , there would be hundreds of pairs outside.And the most obvious type of footwear would be the thick and rugged type ,belongingto a man who has spent a hard day at the fields.A type so rugged that it would be a great defense against the most dreaded thing on a field ....
a kuzha , a leftover root from an old sugarcane plant, which could be vey injurious.
That sight was unbelievable.
In one stroke , the mood would be set for me.This was a kind of Music for the very very ordinary man , who had the skies for his roof , for the best part of his day.
White clothes ,it would be for all.
The richer merchants would be in their spotless variety.We two, with our coloured clothes , would be the obvious outsiders.
And then the Music would start.I was not lucky enough to listen to the likes of Mallikarjun Mansoor , but we had the next best alternative. Siddaram Jambaldinni , his seniormost disciple.
In fact while a vachana is being rendered , it is difficult to tell who is singing.They are so similar.
A very proficient classical vocalist , too.,He dedicated him self fully to the cause of the Vachanas.
Those were great moments in my life and I am not sure If I have been able to communicate my experiences well enough.
May be these carefully collected tracks would do the trick.
http://rapidshare.com/files/111506073/S ... ldinni.MP3
http://rapidshare.com/files/114262926/B ... chanas.mp3
http://rapidshare.com/files/114264480/0 ... achana.mp3
http://rapidshare.com/files/114270869/jambaldinni_1.mp3
http://rapidshare.com/files/114270869/jambaldinni_1.mp3
Here are a few pages from a book that I can gift you , the next time you are in India
http://rapidshare.com/files/114263522/Basaveswara.doc
Beautiful Words.Even though Basavanna probably did not anticipate his works would become musical creations, over the centuries,
Let me tell you about my first experience of Vachana Sangeetha.
In my younger days , Mansoor was not one of my favourites , simply because my brain was not upto that quality of Music.
So when My Dad would goad me to accompany him to a late night Vachana-concert by Siddaram Jambaldinni , I would be left wondering whether that was the best way to spend an evening.
An evening that meant walking 15 mts to our town busstand, travel to Davangere 14 kms away , standing in a crowded bus, walk 20 minutes to the Shivayogi mandira and catch a late night Lorry ride back home.
Walking with Dad was not a very pleasant experience either.
Because he believed in walking at a pace that would ensure my little heart would pump blood to reach and every farthest capilliary.
In short , it would be running , for me.
The entrance to the Shivayogi Mandira would depict a scene that is ample testimony to your statement that I quote.
Since slippers would not be allowed , there would be hundreds of pairs outside.And the most obvious type of footwear would be the thick and rugged type ,belongingto a man who has spent a hard day at the fields.A type so rugged that it would be a great defense against the most dreaded thing on a field ....
a kuzha , a leftover root from an old sugarcane plant, which could be vey injurious.
That sight was unbelievable.
In one stroke , the mood would be set for me.This was a kind of Music for the very very ordinary man , who had the skies for his roof , for the best part of his day.
White clothes ,it would be for all.
The richer merchants would be in their spotless variety.We two, with our coloured clothes , would be the obvious outsiders.
And then the Music would start.I was not lucky enough to listen to the likes of Mallikarjun Mansoor , but we had the next best alternative. Siddaram Jambaldinni , his seniormost disciple.
In fact while a vachana is being rendered , it is difficult to tell who is singing.They are so similar.
A very proficient classical vocalist , too.,He dedicated him self fully to the cause of the Vachanas.
Those were great moments in my life and I am not sure If I have been able to communicate my experiences well enough.
May be these carefully collected tracks would do the trick.
http://rapidshare.com/files/111506073/S ... ldinni.MP3
http://rapidshare.com/files/114262926/B ... chanas.mp3
http://rapidshare.com/files/114264480/0 ... achana.mp3
http://rapidshare.com/files/114270869/jambaldinni_1.mp3
http://rapidshare.com/files/114270869/jambaldinni_1.mp3
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ramakriya
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Sreeni,Sreeni Rajarao wrote:Veena Raja Rao had teamed up with Kannada SAhitya Parishat and published Shiva sharanara kritigaLu as far back as 1952, and Basaveshvara vachana gAnamanjari in 1970.
About 100 vachanas have been set to musical notation in these two books.
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Sreeni Rajarao
I wonder if this book is still in print - If not, would n't it be a good idea to create an e-text version?
-Ramakriya
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Sreeni Rajarao
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Ramakriya,
These books are definitely out of print. I have heard that the parishat (kannada sAhitya parishat) library has maintained some copies of these books, only for reference and not for circulation. Next time I visit Bangalore, I am planning to look into that.
It has been my desire for many years to get the above mentioned two books, as well as other books of my Father (Haridasara kritigalu, Haridasa kriti manjari, BhartIya sangIta vAdyagaLu published by Bangalore university and his own compositions) re-printed or brought in some kind of electronic version.
I have to channel my time and energy to venture into that. I hope to take up these projects one by one. First, I have to understand the legal implications (copyrights and such) and make sure I don't create new problems!
These books are definitely out of print. I have heard that the parishat (kannada sAhitya parishat) library has maintained some copies of these books, only for reference and not for circulation. Next time I visit Bangalore, I am planning to look into that.
It has been my desire for many years to get the above mentioned two books, as well as other books of my Father (Haridasara kritigalu, Haridasa kriti manjari, BhartIya sangIta vAdyagaLu published by Bangalore university and his own compositions) re-printed or brought in some kind of electronic version.
I have to channel my time and energy to venture into that. I hope to take up these projects one by one. First, I have to understand the legal implications (copyrights and such) and make sure I don't create new problems!
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raghupatil
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ramakriya
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Re:
April 15th 2010 was Basava Jayanti.ramakriya wrote:Today is Basava Jayanti.
Even though Basavanna probably did not anticipate his works would become musical creations, over the centuries, they have become so.
This post now shows some such examples of vachanas - both audio and video:
A somewhat-musical post about Basavanna:
chakOrange chandramana beLakina chinte: http://neelanjana.wordpress.com/2008/05/08/
-Ramakriya
Two years ago when I started this thread, I did not anticipate I would one day make a "musical creation" based on a vachana of BasavEshavara; but as luck would have it, I did
Few months ago, I composed this varNa in rAga nAgaswarAvaLi, taking the sAhitya (partially) from a very well known vachana of Basavanna - nAdapriya shivanembaru nAdapriya shivanalla.
Click here for the notation of the varNa.http://neelanjana.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... %E0%B3%81/
I do not have a good recording at the moment; I will post one, when I have one that is good enough to be posted!
-Ramakriya
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ramakriya
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Re: Re:
Now, I do have a recordingramakriya wrote:
Few months ago, I composed this varNa in rAga nAgaswarAvaLi, taking the sAhitya (partially) from a very well known vachana of Basavanna - nAdapriya shivanembaru nAdapriya shivanalla.
Click here for the notation of the varNa.http://neelanjana.wordpress.com/2010/0 ... %E0%B3%81/
I do not have a good recording at the moment; I will post one, when I have one that is good enough to be posted!
-Ramakriya
. Well known bay-area vocalist Ragavan Manian sang this composition in a concert a few days ago. My composition starts around the 6 minute mark in this video, after he finishes off with the verses.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgycvEiBNpY
-Ramakriya