TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
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TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
1)ninnu sEvinchina - yadukula kAmbhOji
2)Dhanyasi alapana followed by Mettangadu kanju poche ?? written by perumal murugan
3)Suma Saayaka- Kapi pada varnam
4)Nijamarmulu- Umabharanam
5)Ragam - Varali , Bhairavi
6)Tanam - Nattai,varali, bhairavi
7)Pakkala Nilabadi- Karaharapriya
May be somebody can continue as I left after pakkal nilabadi
2)Dhanyasi alapana followed by Mettangadu kanju poche ?? written by perumal murugan
3)Suma Saayaka- Kapi pada varnam
4)Nijamarmulu- Umabharanam
5)Ragam - Varali , Bhairavi
6)Tanam - Nattai,varali, bhairavi
7)Pakkala Nilabadi- Karaharapriya
May be somebody can continue as I left after pakkal nilabadi
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
8) Behag Varnam
9) Rabeendra Sangeet
Umabharanam included a nice alapana and some great swaras.
Pakkala nilabadi had some fast paced swaras with an akara eduppu which was very nicely done.
Varali & Bhairavi alaps covered 4, may be 5 octaves.
Some glimpses of vintage TMK before his reformist persona.
9) Rabeendra Sangeet
Umabharanam included a nice alapana and some great swaras.
Pakkala nilabadi had some fast paced swaras with an akara eduppu which was very nicely done.
Varali & Bhairavi alaps covered 4, may be 5 octaves.
Some glimpses of vintage TMK before his reformist persona.
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
A range of three octaves is enough for Carnatic music. Beyond this limit it's a strain both for the singer as well as the listener.
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
Perhaps he is preparing himself to sing geetham and prabandham in the future.
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
Unfortunate...Heard about a live feed by his associate in FB... Those interested please watch and decide yourself..
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
Spoken like a conservative critic Those trying to push the boundaries may differ.Sivaramakrishnan wrote: ↑25 Jul 2017, 16:14 A range of three octaves is enough for Carnatic music. Beyond this limit it's a strain both for the singer as well as the listener.
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
suresh,
You offered me a point.
Conservative critics may be necessary to define boundaries.
Pushing boundaries might end up as 'fetes' - not a must in fine arts.
You offered me a point.
Conservative critics may be necessary to define boundaries.
Pushing boundaries might end up as 'fetes' - not a must in fine arts.
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
What is going on with TMK, looks like there was no structure to the concert whatsoever...
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
All progress happens only after boundaries are pushed. It may not seem significant at that time, but these efforts gather critical mass over a period of time and then a new wave forms that moves the state-of-the-art forward. Fine arts is no exception.Sivaramakrishnan wrote: ↑25 Jul 2017, 21:41 Pushing boundaries might end up as 'fetes' - not a must in fine arts.
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
Point
Truth always is in a in a minority of One and Every custom begins as a broken precedent.
.Counterpoint
TRADITION means giving votes to that obscurest of classes, our ancestors. It is the democracy of the dead. Tradition refuses to surrender to the arrogant oligarchy of those who merely happen to be walking around
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
@narayara000 he even did a nereval for, perumal murugan 'kriti'
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
Would like to know the lines of Perumal Murugan's verses, if anyone noted them down.
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
The pallavi line was:
mEtAnkAdu kAnju pOchu, motta pArai pOla Achu
mEtAnkAdu kAnju pOchu, motta pArai pOla Achu
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
I noted down the lyrics except for one line of the anupallavi, Arasi. Here we go: copying this from my cellphone & sorry for not providing a transliteration in English.
ராகம்: தன்யாஸி
ரூபகம்
பெருமாள் முருகன்
ப: மேட்டாங்காடு காஞ்சு போச்சு
மொட்டப் பாறை போலாச்சு
அனு: போட்ட வெத மொளக்கவில்ல
Missed next line
ச:
காலமெல்லாம் இதுதானா?
வெள்ளாம காடு முழுக்க வெந்தேதான் போகுமா?
ஏழபாழ நாங்க மடியேந்தி மனமுருகி
கெடக்க இப்போ விதியாச்சே
மழ வருமா? மண் மரம் தருமா?
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
mEttAngAdu kAnju pOchu (the land has become parched)
mottap pARai pOlAchu (has hardened like a rock)
pOtta vedha moLakkavilla (the seeds didn't sprout)
kAlamellAm idhu thAna (is this how it is going to be?)
veLLAma kAdu muzhukka vendhEthAn pogumA (will all the farm land go dead?)
EzhapAzha nAnga madiyEndhi manamurugi
kedakka ippO vidhiyAche (is it providence that we the ryots/poor and downtrodden have to beg)
mazha varuma (will i rain), maN maram tharumA (will the land become green again?)
mottap pARai pOlAchu (has hardened like a rock)
pOtta vedha moLakkavilla (the seeds didn't sprout)
kAlamellAm idhu thAna (is this how it is going to be?)
veLLAma kAdu muzhukka vendhEthAn pogumA (will all the farm land go dead?)
EzhapAzha nAnga madiyEndhi manamurugi
kedakka ippO vidhiyAche (is it providence that we the ryots/poor and downtrodden have to beg)
mazha varuma (will i rain), maN maram tharumA (will the land become green again?)
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
What contour of bhairavi did TMK show in his 5 octave siging which he couldn't in the usual 2 octave !
I remember when Bilahari Marthandam Pillai says he was awarded the title for singing that raga for hours hus son hums and replis that it can ve sung in few seconds also.showmanship everywhere since there are psychopants.
I remember when Bilahari Marthandam Pillai says he was awarded the title for singing that raga for hours hus son hums and replis that it can ve sung in few seconds also.showmanship everywhere since there are psychopants.
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
What contours are there in the Himalayas that is not in Parangimalai? Only people willing to venture out of their narrow confines will know.
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
Highly idiotic allegory.
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
Thanks Sridhar, Sureshvv for the lines and sankark for your effective translation. Good verses in the Good Earth mode. TMK would have created the mood very ably. But personally, I wish the caraNam had ended with a note of hope of some kind--instead of leaving the poor cultivators of the vAnam pArtha bhUmi and the listeners with no hope. After all in music, even oppAri-s (dirges), there is the positive element of singing about the virtues of the dear departed.
The good thing is, that TMK learned all the words to sing this eminent writer's poem and worked on presenting it musically--well, glancing at the lyrics, of course!
The good thing is, that TMK learned all the words to sing this eminent writer's poem and worked on presenting it musically--well, glancing at the lyrics, of course!
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
No hope of that from Perumal Murugan! Mainly the reason his poetry has been handpicked for presentation. Of course, giving the DK cadres much hope
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
Sureshvv,
Just thought for a moment. Supposing Perumal Murugan wrote verses meant as songs for TMK (as with the designer of TMK's kurtAs)...and he chose to, as most composers did, added his mudrA to them too, that would be something! Also an ariyum aranum, avan maganum onRE (Hari, Hara, and his son are one) aspect thrown in there
Just thought for a moment. Supposing Perumal Murugan wrote verses meant as songs for TMK (as with the designer of TMK's kurtAs)...and he chose to, as most composers did, added his mudrA to them too, that would be something! Also an ariyum aranum, avan maganum onRE (Hari, Hara, and his son are one) aspect thrown in there
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
is there an app called raga sudhaarasa? how to download it. not available in playstore
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
Except he referred to it as a "keerthanai"Venkat Ramachandran wrote: ↑26 Jul 2017, 10:28 @narayara000 he even did a nereval for, perumal murugan 'kriti'
Wonder if it is just a temporary brain glitch or a conscious attempt to muddy the waters or an eye poke at people who care about such things?
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
" மழ வருமா? மண் மரம் தருமா?"
அட !மழே வந்திடிச்சே மெட்ரா சிலே
தன்யாசி அம்ருத வர்ஷினி ஆயிடுச்சே
பெருமாள் முருகா கிருஷ்ணா
கோவர்தனதே புடிங்கபா
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அட !மழே வந்திடிச்சே மெட்ரா சிலே
தன்யாசி அம்ருத வர்ஷினி ஆயிடுச்சே
பெருமாள் முருகா கிருஷ்ணா
கோவர்தனதே புடிங்கபா
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
Transliteration
ada!. mazhe vandhidiche metrAsilE
dhanyAsi amirdha varshini Ayidiche
perumAl murugA krishnA
gOvardhanathe pidigapA.
ada!. mazhe vandhidiche metrAsilE
dhanyAsi amirdha varshini Ayidiche
perumAl murugA krishnA
gOvardhanathe pidigapA.
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
Bale! Bale!!
Blast from the past! Reminded me of "Onnarai pakka naaledu".
Blast from the past! Reminded me of "Onnarai pakka naaledu".
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
aDa, vandArE aiyyA nam pon bhairavi!
paDa paDannu kUraiya mazhe toDavum!
mAl maruga muruganum mAyAvi kiTTanum
mazheyap pathi pADavumE! nanRi nanRi
iruvarukkum, avaraip paDaichavanukkumE
Ha, here comes our pon bhairavi!
As rain comes tapping on our roofs!
On hearing murugan, vishNu's nephew
And mAyAvi Krishna invoke varuNA
Thanks to the two, and to their creator
paDa paDannu kUraiya mazhe toDavum!
mAl maruga muruganum mAyAvi kiTTanum
mazheyap pathi pADavumE! nanRi nanRi
iruvarukkum, avaraip paDaichavanukkumE
Ha, here comes our pon bhairavi!
As rain comes tapping on our roofs!
On hearing murugan, vishNu's nephew
And mAyAvi Krishna invoke varuNA
Thanks to the two, and to their creator
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
அட, வந்தாரே ஐயா பொன் பைரவி!
பட படன்னு கூரைய மழை தொடவும்!
மால் மருகனும், மாயாவி கிட்டனும்
மழெயப் பத்திப் பாடவுமே! நன்றி, நன்றி
இருவருக்கும், அவரெப் படைச்சவனுக்குமே
பட படன்னு கூரைய மழை தொடவும்!
மால் மருகனும், மாயாவி கிட்டனும்
மழெயப் பத்திப் பாடவுமே! நன்றி, நன்றி
இருவருக்கும், அவரெப் படைச்சவனுக்குமே
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
Ponbhairavi and arsi avl,
crisp and apt review.
With wishes,
Thanjavooran
03 08 2017
crisp and apt review.
With wishes,
Thanjavooran
03 08 2017
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Re: TM Krishna, BVB,24 Jul'17
suresh,arasi,,thanjavooran
Thanks
Thanks