Sanjay Subramanian - Narada Gana Sabha - 23 Dec 2008

hariharans · Post by **hariharans** » 23 Dec 2008, 19:37

Narada Gana Sabha
23 Dec 2008- 04:30pm

Sri Sanjay Subramanian - Vocal
Sri Nagai Muralidharan - Violin
Sri P Satishkumar - Mridangam
Sri KV Gopalakrishnan - Kanjira

01 samini rammanave - kedAram - rupakam - Tiruvottiyur Thyagaya
02 Ongi ulgalanda - Arabi - Adi S
03 kAlai thooki - yadukula khAmboji - Adi(2) R
04 endu dAgi nAdo - thodi - misra chApu - Thyagaraja R N S T
05 pAdavendume - hamsanAdham - rupakam
06 RTP - durbAri kAnadA - khanda truputa
pallavi: govindA alarmel mangai manalA vA thiruvenkata nAdha
07 paniyin venthuli - thirupugazh
08 mangalam

The authorities of Narda Gana Sabha didn't allow photography

PUNARVASU · Post by **PUNARVASU** » 23 Dec 2008, 22:31

The authorities of Narda Gana Sabha didn't allow photography
This photograph was taken with the cell phone !!

Loss is ours.

jananee · Post by **jananee** » 23 Dec 2008, 23:22

Bilahari: I will have to borrow a few words from your review of the last sanjay concert!

I was totally speechless after this concert! I took the great decision of getting a stage ticket and cant thank my stars enough ! I am unable to decide which was the best right from the item 1.

The todi was just amazing and i personally thought Sanjay handled Darbari kanada really well. A raga in which we are generally used to tukkadas, sanjay really delved into it and brought out the best. He brought out a lot of Hindustani nuances in the RTP.

I am going to take a break for 2 days to let this concert sink in fully!

Accompanists were equally brilliant!

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 23 Dec 2008, 23:26

Feeling pretty much the same....in fact I thought of missing the Malladis concert afterwards thinking that it would be better not to spoil the mood set by Sanjay's Darbari...but boy, what an exquisite Charukeshi was waiting for me there!! This is one of the best days I've had in the last few seasons!!

musicfan_4201 · Post by **musicfan_4201** » 24 Dec 2008, 08:31

We will never change. If photography is not allowed, I think we should refrain from taking one and respect the rules set by the Sabha authorities, than using a cell fone to discretely take one.
Will we do this in Europe, Singapore, the US or any other foreign country in any museum or a public place where photography is prohibited. we respect or are scared from trespassing the rules set. Why cant we follow that in our own country as well???????????????
What is the loss in not taking a photograph! There are numerous photos of the artist available and we are going there to listen to the splendid music and not just to see the artist.

rbsiyer · Post by **rbsiyer** » 24 Dec 2008, 10:00

endudaginado is a nice change. not heard much outside of the musiri school.

tamizhkizchan · Post by **tamizhkizchan** » 24 Dec 2008, 10:08

Sanjay once again leads from the front by reintroducing a Musiri classic, Endudaginado. As is the case in the past, such classics inspire other musicians like TM Krishna to adopt this krithi and sing it at a later time. There is a great possibility that he might sing this song at the Academy next year. Any bets?

hariharans · Post by **hariharans** » 24 Dec 2008, 10:15

musicfan_4201 wrote:We will never change. If photography is not allowed, I think we should refrain from taking one and respect the rules set by the Sabha authorities, than using a cell fone to discretely take one.
Will we do this in Europe, Singapore, the US or any other foreign country in any museum or a public place where photography is prohibited. we respect or are scared from trespassing the rules set. Why cant we follow that in our own country as well???????????????
What is the loss in not taking a photograph! There are numerous photos of the artist available and we are going there to listen to the splendid music and not just to see the artist.

Point taken. I have removed the photo.

Sathej · Post by **Sathej** » 24 Dec 2008, 10:16

Endu Daginado is still considerably in vogue. Have heard it quite often from Suguna Purushothaman Mami and her school.

Sathej

bilahari · Post by **bilahari** » 24 Dec 2008, 10:23

Hope there will be recordings of all these spellbinding Sanjay concerts. Sanjay has also been singing quite some Kedaram recently, a nice revival of the raga which I don't seem to have heard many artistes render frequently since MDR.

gn.sn42 · Post by **gn.sn42** » 24 Dec 2008, 10:24

musicfan_4201 wrote: Will we do this in Europe, Singapore, the US or any other foreign country in any museum or a public place where photography is prohibited.

Sure:
http://flickr.com/search/?q=sistine+chapel&m=text

peanutbutter · Post by **peanutbutter** » 24 Dec 2008, 10:46

gn.sn42 wrote:
musicfan_4201 wrote: Will we do this in Europe, Singapore, the US or any other foreign country in any museum or a public place where photography is prohibited.

Sure:
http://flickr.com/search/?q=sistine+chapel&m=text

I agree... Having taken pictures of both Da Vinci's Mona Lisa and Michelangelo's Statue of David while traveling through Europe. And I wasn't the only one there doing it... So taking secret pictures through a camera phone, or digital camera is nothing specific to India!

tamizhkizchan, you might have been right about other musicians also singing the song later on, but I doubt he will take the song up now after seeing this post!

musicfan_4201 · Post by **musicfan_4201** » 24 Dec 2008, 11:09

gn.sn42 wrote:
musicfan_4201 wrote: Will we do this in Europe, Singapore, the US or any other foreign country in any museum or a public place where photography is prohibited.

Sure:
http://flickr.com/search/?q=sistine+chapel&m=text

Well, lot of people do it. The author of this thread has been good enough to remove the picture and I respect that. My point was to law abiding citizens. There are always exceptions.

sampath77 · Post by **sampath77** » 24 Dec 2008, 11:45

This was "concert of the season" for my group that attends kacheris together. For me, this was best concert in last 3 seasons. Imagine a 2 hour 40 minute concert with just 8 items including mangalam. As my young granddaughter would say, this was an "awesome concert". What Sanjay sang was matched wonderfully by Nagai and Satish Kumar. The kanjira boy also good.

We got the last few seats in balcony. We all glad we got the tickets. The todi was majestic. What a gait? What a majesty? It was presented so very brilliantly by Sanjay. He made Musiri proud. Ok "endu daki nado" may be in vogue through the Suguna Purushottam school (according to Sathej). But I am not sure as to how many people listen to that school. So it is not in vogue. The todi piece including taniavartanam took 1 hour and 20 mins. I will cherish each and every minute of that. If that was not enough, my heart was filled with the sounds of brindavanasaranga.

Sanjay is a trend setter. No doubt. What TMK is doing today is what Sanjay has been doing for sometime anyway except all these articles that TMK has started to write just for extra masala. So Mr tamizhkizchan I will not be surprised if TMK sings "endu daki nado" sometime soon. Also maybe TMK will also do RTPs in hindustani ragas.

This was my 3rd Sanjay concert for the season and in each one he has sung a hindustani raga RTP. He is very good at that.

I hope this is released as a CD. If it is, I will buy it. This concert was a masterpiece.

prashant · Post by **prashant** » 24 Dec 2008, 12:23

This may be a really stupid question, but is it really necessary to bash one artiste in order to add to your praise of another? If you don't like an artiste, perhaps you would be better off not attending their concerts or contributing by making substantive comments about their music and why it doesn't appeal to you, rather than questioning their artistic integrity [with little evidence], and choice of concert items. I don't think any one of us is qualified to comment on what makes an artiste choose to sing / popularize a certain song or raga.

sampath77 · Post by **sampath77** » 24 Dec 2008, 15:10

[This contribution has been suitably edited after the moderators' quite correct request]

Prashant

Since you asked, I can confirm that yours was a stupid question.

By making slanderous remarks about other artistes in his article in The Hindu, TMK has left himself wide open to be compared and criticised. End of story.

In my group that attends concerts together, based on that article by TMK, the names that we have thrown around as to who TMK's article slanders (without actually naming names) includes T. N. Seshagopalan, Karaikudi Mani, B. S. Purushottam, Sanjay Subramanian, Sowmya, etc.

Sathej · Post by **Sathej** » 24 Dec 2008, 16:43

sampath77 wrote:Ok "endu daki nado" may be in vogue through the Suguna Purushottam school (according to Sathej). But I am not sure as to how many people listen to that school. So it is not in vogue.

Suguna Purshothaman is still quite active in giving concerts and she has several students as well. Endu Daginado is widely rendered in their school as well as by TK Govinda Rao Mama and his students. Quite a few do listen to such artistes.

sampath77 wrote:Sanjay is a trend setter. No doubt. What TMK is doing today is what Sanjay has been doing for sometime anyway except all these articles that TMK has started to write just for extra masala. So Mr tamizhkizchan I will not be surprised if TMK sings "endu daki nado" sometime soon. Also maybe TMK will also do RTPs in hindustani ragas.

This seems a slander to me. As Prashant points out, just because one admires one artiste, one need not go overboard in putting down others. Every artiste has his/her own virtuosity that has enabled them to be what they are today. If one resorts to saying what A does is nothing but an imitation of B, there is no end to the story. It would not be difficult to find out 'inspirers' of each artiste including trendsetters today. A has got inspired from B, B from C and the list would go on. To call someone a trendsetter is a personal opinion and I respect that. But to label other artistes as imitators is a statement without justification and amounts to mere slander.

Sathej

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 24 Dec 2008, 16:56

tODi? durbAri kanaDA or yadykula khAmboji? All those were delectable. endu tAginADo, a super rasikA said to me, was a piece de resistance of Alattur brothers as well.

Vijay,
I thought it was difficult to get that chArukESi out of my head, but that was fine. There is more room in one's mind for other pristine presentations too....

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 25 Dec 2008, 00:13

Prashant, you are wasting your time on this guy. Mods - Sampath is making statements that are untrue and malicious. The article does not mention any of the names he is shooting off. His accusations are potentially injurious to TMK's professional relationships. Strongly request that his post be suitably edited. For the record, TM Krishna is playing with BS Purushottaman is several venues this season and is playing with KRM at KGS.

Arasi - were you at the Malladis concert as well?!! We seem to be missing each other at a whole host of venues.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 25 Dec 2008, 01:26

A "Mod note" has been inserted into Sampath's post. Sampath please do the needful.

prashant · Post by **prashant** » 25 Dec 2008, 06:12

vijay wrote:Prashant, you are wasting your time on this guy.

I realize that now, Vijay, after reading his previous posts. I'm done with this!

sampath77 · Post by **sampath77** » 25 Dec 2008, 08:04

Mr Vijay and other "moral police". My post has been suitably edited. No need to get your knickers in a horrible twist over that.

But I ask one thing. Who do you think TMK was trying to slander in his article? Where were you and your "moral police" hats when that article was published? Or are you the type that sips coffee in 5-star hotels, talking about eradicating hunger and poverty?

You say that my accusations are potentially injurious to TMK's professional relationships. I find this quite laughable.

Three things to say: (1) Why are you so protective of TMK's professional relationships? That is his problem and prerogative. (2) If the strength of TMK's professional relationships are based on a post by me, even God may not be able to help him. (3) Do you think that TMK's article itself contributed positively to his professional relationships?

No don't even bother answering those questions. They were rhetorical. But I will not be surprised by another knee-jerk from you.

Finally, if Purushottaman is playing for TMK, it is a credit to the young kanjira players' professional conduct. I salute the young man. It will be hard for him.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 25 Dec 2008, 08:18

OK, let us move on from the TMK discussion in this thread.

prashant · Post by **prashant** » 25 Dec 2008, 09:22

vasanthakokilam: Yes, let's move on. I'm off to 'sip coffee in a 5-star [udupi] hotel'

Sathej · Post by **Sathej** » 25 Dec 2008, 10:34

prashant wrote:I'm off to 'sip coffee in a 5-star [udupi] hotel'

True, helps to take some heat off..On a side note, while one can comment for or against some particular performance (thats a personal preference), talking against an artiste in general and making sweeping allegations can be distasteful.

Sathej

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 25 Dec 2008, 16:27

Good idea VK. Let us get back to Sanjay's concert at Narada Gana SAbha!

manikand28 · Post by **manikand28** » 25 Dec 2008, 20:14

OP,
please put the photo back, i am really interested to see the photo, it will help me relate to the mood. As long as you are not using flash i feel it is perfectly ok to take photography.