It was a wonderful kutcheri
Accompanied by M Chandrasekaran guruvayur Durai and guruprasad.
TNS's concert was breathtaking captivating and haunted the listeners mind even after leaving the concert hall. Would be nice if anyone share the recording.The whole programme consisted of the compositions on Siva by different composers, the day being that of Arudra darisanam. Wow! how much variteties of songs he could able to present, what a repertoire.
A rough song list:
Sivaloganadhanai kandu - Mayamalavagowlai
siva siva siva ena Panthuvarali
sivanaininaindhu - kamboji-??
Anandhanatana prakasam- Kedharam
Appa naan - sahana- ??
innamum sandheha- Keeravani Gopalakrishnabharathiyar
RTP Abhogi- ORU dharam sivachidmbaram ennru uraithaal podhume anudhinam ore
after RTp he also presented some viruthams and tamil songs which was very lively and excellent
The most moving items were raga alapana of kedharam,abogi ragam and thanam, RTp was a treat for the audience.RTP was given a grand treatment with ragamalika swaras, TNS's music is becoming matured day by day and his voice was awesome and reached till athithara nishadha.His rendition of anantha natana prakasam was very graceful prestine and aesthetic. I can say that this is one of the best concerts of TNS in this 2008-09 music season. May God bless him with a long prosperous healthy life.
TNS @ RR Sabha.Jan 10th 2009.
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amrithavarshini
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I didnt mean that way , everybody knows that he is a mahavidhwan legend and vidwans vidwan.
Generally i have heard old generation people saying that "Indha vaasippu/paatu pazhuthirukku" when they refer to a music by a senior great vidwan, I meant that way so this should be taken in right sense
{Given below is a posting of a member for TNs's Parthasarathy swami sabha concert}
"In the young TNS, the voice, power and stamina dominated, in the present day ones, the gnanam, bhava and finer aspects dominate. It is with the rasika to pick and choose the best and enjoy".
"my mention of "maturity" is similar to this
Generally i have heard old generation people saying that "Indha vaasippu/paatu pazhuthirukku" when they refer to a music by a senior great vidwan, I meant that way so this should be taken in right sense
{Given below is a posting of a member for TNs's Parthasarathy swami sabha concert}
"In the young TNS, the voice, power and stamina dominated, in the present day ones, the gnanam, bhava and finer aspects dominate. It is with the rasika to pick and choose the best and enjoy".
"my mention of "maturity" is similar to this
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sama
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Good to know that you did'nt mean it that way. Different facets of an artiste's artistry come to the fore at different stages of his/her career. It is pointless to say that TNS's music has reached a mature stage only now. It is well known that he is a maha vidwan and has been respected as one for long. All rasikas have the responsibility in choosing the right words to convey their opinions.
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sarojaRamanujam
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Dear members,
here is the xcerpt from the writing on the concert to be relished by the rasikas of TNS.
----Then came a song of Neelakantasivan in kambhodhi, ‘sivanai ninaindhu paadi.’ This was followed by a enchanting panthuvarali and the krthi was ‘siva siva siva enaraadhaa,’ of Thyagaraja with neraval-svaram at ‘aagamamula.’ The svara brought to mind the arudra thandava of Nataraja that was to take place that night in Chidambaram. But the rasikas were treated with an audio-visual portrayal of the same by the music that followed during the rest of the concert.
The anandathandava started with the kedara raga alapana, heralding the arrival of ‘ananda natanaprakasam,’ of Dhikshitar. TNS sang the krthi in a slow tempo making it a lasya thandava. The svara was at ‘sangeethavadhya vinodha thaandava,’ and it was indeed a vinodha thandava accompanied with sangeetham and vadhyam by the assemblage of the eminent musician and accompanists. Each phrase of svara proved to be an adavu , being differently executed. The rasikas were enamoured with the darsana of arudra thandava, only to be enraptured more and more later.
After ‘innamum sandheha padalamo,’ in keeravani by Gopalakrisna bharathiar, TNS started the raga abhogi, leaving the rasikas with no doubt, (sandeham) what so ever that this is indeed the arudradarisanam. The abhogi alapana was ‘aabhogeendhram,’ in two ways.
First, Adhisesha, bhogeendra, wishing to see the dance off Siva came to Chidambaram in the form of Patanjali. .The alpana of TNS of abhogi portrayed Adisesha encircling the region with all his thousand hoods. Abhoga means extension and expansion. Abhogi is that which has extension and expansion which just describes the raga abhogi sung by TNS this day, justifying the name of the raga.
Secondly, in the spread hoods of Adhisesha the Lord Govundaraja was seen enjoying the dance of Siva, This was evident in the elaborate thanam. The word thaana means extension and thanu means sareera and the thaana was as beautiful as the Lord Govinda and after the Adhisesha has encircled and spread his hoods naturally the Lord Govinda would come and lie on it. Hence it was the complete picture of Chidambaram and all that is left was to enjoy the arudra natanam. This was brought on stage by the pallavi ‘orudharamsivschidambaram enRuraitthaal pOdhumaam., anu dhiam orE orudharam,’ All the kinds of nrtthas attributed to Lord Siva could be seen in the pallavi and svara prasthra which was a ragamalika. Each raga was wonderfully brought out in full by the svaras while the kapi was exclusive , kumbakonam degree kapi!
‘It is superfluous to mention about the accompanists who are well known for their expertise and also the seasoned accompanists of TNS who were the accompanists for at least half a dozen concerts during this season. to TNS. The ragas beautifully played by MC and the laya lasya thandava by the playing of Guruvayur Dorai made the concert enjoyable besides the extraordinary music of TNS.
here is the xcerpt from the writing on the concert to be relished by the rasikas of TNS.
----Then came a song of Neelakantasivan in kambhodhi, ‘sivanai ninaindhu paadi.’ This was followed by a enchanting panthuvarali and the krthi was ‘siva siva siva enaraadhaa,’ of Thyagaraja with neraval-svaram at ‘aagamamula.’ The svara brought to mind the arudra thandava of Nataraja that was to take place that night in Chidambaram. But the rasikas were treated with an audio-visual portrayal of the same by the music that followed during the rest of the concert.
The anandathandava started with the kedara raga alapana, heralding the arrival of ‘ananda natanaprakasam,’ of Dhikshitar. TNS sang the krthi in a slow tempo making it a lasya thandava. The svara was at ‘sangeethavadhya vinodha thaandava,’ and it was indeed a vinodha thandava accompanied with sangeetham and vadhyam by the assemblage of the eminent musician and accompanists. Each phrase of svara proved to be an adavu , being differently executed. The rasikas were enamoured with the darsana of arudra thandava, only to be enraptured more and more later.
After ‘innamum sandheha padalamo,’ in keeravani by Gopalakrisna bharathiar, TNS started the raga abhogi, leaving the rasikas with no doubt, (sandeham) what so ever that this is indeed the arudradarisanam. The abhogi alapana was ‘aabhogeendhram,’ in two ways.
First, Adhisesha, bhogeendra, wishing to see the dance off Siva came to Chidambaram in the form of Patanjali. .The alpana of TNS of abhogi portrayed Adisesha encircling the region with all his thousand hoods. Abhoga means extension and expansion. Abhogi is that which has extension and expansion which just describes the raga abhogi sung by TNS this day, justifying the name of the raga.
Secondly, in the spread hoods of Adhisesha the Lord Govundaraja was seen enjoying the dance of Siva, This was evident in the elaborate thanam. The word thaana means extension and thanu means sareera and the thaana was as beautiful as the Lord Govinda and after the Adhisesha has encircled and spread his hoods naturally the Lord Govinda would come and lie on it. Hence it was the complete picture of Chidambaram and all that is left was to enjoy the arudra natanam. This was brought on stage by the pallavi ‘orudharamsivschidambaram enRuraitthaal pOdhumaam., anu dhiam orE orudharam,’ All the kinds of nrtthas attributed to Lord Siva could be seen in the pallavi and svara prasthra which was a ragamalika. Each raga was wonderfully brought out in full by the svaras while the kapi was exclusive , kumbakonam degree kapi!
‘It is superfluous to mention about the accompanists who are well known for their expertise and also the seasoned accompanists of TNS who were the accompanists for at least half a dozen concerts during this season. to TNS. The ragas beautifully played by MC and the laya lasya thandava by the playing of Guruvayur Dorai made the concert enjoyable besides the extraordinary music of TNS.
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This is my impression of TNS over the years
TNS over the years- -added depth of bhava, gaambheeryam , and tejas over the years and has grown in status approaching divinity which will be completed in a few years.. TNS 's visvaroopa is on stage and most unforgettable and inspiring is his music by its splendour and beauty. It has grown more and more attractive over the years. One thing has remained as enchanting as ever. That is his manodharma. prathipadhalalitham prathyaham noothanam
TNS over the years- -added depth of bhava, gaambheeryam , and tejas over the years and has grown in status approaching divinity which will be completed in a few years.. TNS 's visvaroopa is on stage and most unforgettable and inspiring is his music by its splendour and beauty. It has grown more and more attractive over the years. One thing has remained as enchanting as ever. That is his manodharma. prathipadhalalitham prathyaham noothanam
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thodiragam
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Yes, he is an exponent in vocal veena harikatha harmonium, He has excelled in Ragam, svaram niraval and Pallavi singing , he has sung pallavis in ragas such as bindhumalini bhagesree sindhubhairavi rakesree chandrakauns dwijavanthi and sruthi bhedha pallavis etc
Have heard that TNS is a good mrithangam and flute player, he is a multifaceted genius
He is not only a great performer , he is also a great guru who has numerous disciples who are all good performers in the music fileld
Member first is correct, why this great vidhwan has not been awarded Doctorate till date
Have heard that TNS is a good mrithangam and flute player, he is a multifaceted genius
He is not only a great performer , he is also a great guru who has numerous disciples who are all good performers in the music fileld
Member first is correct, why this great vidhwan has not been awarded Doctorate till date
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Amruthavarshini
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Very few know that TNS can play the kanjira too! Apart from being a vocalist, veena player, Harikatha exponent and Harmonium player ( all at concert levels) he can handle almost any instrument with ease. Apart from being a giant in this field, TNS is very accomplished in the literary field also. His thematic concerts, like the Kambaramayanam, Divya Prabandham, Tiruppugazh, Kannadasan Kavidaigal, Thiruvarutpa, are all interwoven with very good speeches. Recently when he was awarded at Srilanka by the Kamban Kazhagam, he gave a speech on "Kambanil guruthvam", in front of so many literary greats. His Music academy lec dem sessions and the Gayana Samaja, Bangalore, lec dems were a great hit. He is one great musician, who holds a degree in music, and who can at ease explain the theory of music with practical knowledge. His contributions to the realm of music has not been recognised as it should have been. I wonder, how such talent is not considered for doctorates. I have a strong feeling that artists like him should be defintely honoured for the benefit if carnatic music.
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Ragjay
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I wonder why such artist like Prof TNK Lalgudi jayaraman MSG UKS TNS and other giants are not offered honorary doctorates for their outstanding contribution to classical music. This list is only illustrative and many more deserving artists are there.It must be understood that such honors will only enhance the prestige of the universities that confer such honors to artists and not vice versa. Bye ragjay
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sarojaRamanujam
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Here is the write up on his keyboard concert in 2003. He has given a cd on keyboard as well
25-12-2003 at PGS - Keyboard concert
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The skill displayed in playing the keyboard is inconceivable. Nobody could believe , unless they have heard this concert , that Thodiraga, leave alone its nuances, can be played on the keyboard. TNS did it and how! It was something incredible, aghatitha ghatanaa saamarthyam on the part of TNS to have played Thodi with all its glory on the keyboard. He had indeed achieved the impossible. In the vedagosha that followed one could almost hear the words and even the udhaaththa anudhaaththa accents were brought out clearly. It made this rasika wonder that whatever could be the alchemy  that gives out a shower of nectar from wherever his fingers travel. May it be veena, key board and God knows what else!
25-12-2003 at PGS - Keyboard concert
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The skill displayed in playing the keyboard is inconceivable. Nobody could believe , unless they have heard this concert , that Thodiraga, leave alone its nuances, can be played on the keyboard. TNS did it and how! It was something incredible, aghatitha ghatanaa saamarthyam on the part of TNS to have played Thodi with all its glory on the keyboard. He had indeed achieved the impossible. In the vedagosha that followed one could almost hear the words and even the udhaaththa anudhaaththa accents were brought out clearly. It made this rasika wonder that whatever could be the alchemy  that gives out a shower of nectar from wherever his fingers travel. May it be veena, key board and God knows what else!
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sarojaRamanujam
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I fully agree. TNS has done post doctorate in not only music but also in whatever he has done so far and goes on amassing knowledge. I remraked when he got the sangitha kalanidhi that a sangitalkalanidhi, that is a treasure house of music is called as one today.It was like writing the name under the picture of a lotus or pointing to the sun and saying this is the sun. Similarly to award a doctorate which is long overdue the honour will be honoured, as in the case of every award he has received so far, including the padmabhushan
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I fully agree to what thodhiragam has said. Being a dedicated devoted Guru is a very great service to this invaluble precious art.
Many of his disciples are popular performers in todays carnatic music world, TNS has numerous students all over the world in different age groups i think. He is one the musician having many performing students.
Rasikas are constantly sharing their experiences after attending tns's concert, there are many ardent die hard fans and admires who give detailed reviews of his concerts in this forum, Rasikas feed back is overwhelming and very interesting ( also informative) to read .
I suggest that some of his disciples should share their experience of learning under tns, they should explain in detail the ability of his teaching also.
It is a well known fact that he is an exponent in vocal vina and harikatha, but thanks for giving other informations , It is very interesting to note that he can also play the keyboard mrithangam kanjira and accompalished in literary field. A great person indeed!
he is also a composer, he has composed few thillanas and tamil songs? Can anybody give authentic information on tns as a composer?
Many of his disciples are popular performers in todays carnatic music world, TNS has numerous students all over the world in different age groups i think. He is one the musician having many performing students.
Rasikas are constantly sharing their experiences after attending tns's concert, there are many ardent die hard fans and admires who give detailed reviews of his concerts in this forum, Rasikas feed back is overwhelming and very interesting ( also informative) to read .
I suggest that some of his disciples should share their experience of learning under tns, they should explain in detail the ability of his teaching also.
It is a well known fact that he is an exponent in vocal vina and harikatha, but thanks for giving other informations , It is very interesting to note that he can also play the keyboard mrithangam kanjira and accompalished in literary field. A great person indeed!
he is also a composer, he has composed few thillanas and tamil songs? Can anybody give authentic information on tns as a composer?
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Amruthavarshini
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TNS has composed thillanas in ragas, Hameer Kalyani, Vijayanagari, Chandrakauns, Niroshta, Patdeep, Thodi, Bhairavi, Basant and Huseni, as far as I know. He has composed quite a few tamil songs. i have heard one song starting "Thaaye, thanayan pizhai porutharulvaaye" in Sama. He has composed varnams too, I hear. it is the duty of his performing disciples to get those from him and introduce to the concert circuit. He has composed hundreds of Pallavis. The famous one in kalyani, explaining what a pallavi is!
TNS has set 500 verses of the Kambaramayanam to music. All India Radio has archived this too. About 900 Divya Prabandhams have been set to music by him. He has given thematic concerts in Thayumanavar padalgal, Manickavachagar's Thiruvachagam,and Andal's thiruppavai too. I vividly remember the 12 hours nonstop programme by TNS where he sung all the thirty thiruppavais non stop without referring to notes!!
He has given numerous lec dems on Pallavi singing, Namasankeerthana padhdhathi, Harikesanallur Muthiah Bhagavathar's compositions. I think TNS alone has sung so many compositions of Muthiah Bhagavathar. the morning sessions ar the Music Academy when he was conferred the Sangita Kalanidhi and the sessions at Gayana Samaja Bagalore, when he was honoured there were great hits, with Halls overflowing. One could never forget the many inputs he gave during those sessions.
TNS has christened the Keyboard as Swara Raga Pradarshini. He is adept in rendering rags like Bhairavi, Thodi and even Nayaki in the keyboard.
A super star in Carnatic Music world. Not only doctorate, this rasika would wish the moon for him.
TNS has set 500 verses of the Kambaramayanam to music. All India Radio has archived this too. About 900 Divya Prabandhams have been set to music by him. He has given thematic concerts in Thayumanavar padalgal, Manickavachagar's Thiruvachagam,and Andal's thiruppavai too. I vividly remember the 12 hours nonstop programme by TNS where he sung all the thirty thiruppavais non stop without referring to notes!!
He has given numerous lec dems on Pallavi singing, Namasankeerthana padhdhathi, Harikesanallur Muthiah Bhagavathar's compositions. I think TNS alone has sung so many compositions of Muthiah Bhagavathar. the morning sessions ar the Music Academy when he was conferred the Sangita Kalanidhi and the sessions at Gayana Samaja Bagalore, when he was honoured there were great hits, with Halls overflowing. One could never forget the many inputs he gave during those sessions.
TNS has christened the Keyboard as Swara Raga Pradarshini. He is adept in rendering rags like Bhairavi, Thodi and even Nayaki in the keyboard.
A super star in Carnatic Music world. Not only doctorate, this rasika would wish the moon for him.
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SR
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This is my humble attempt to write about TNS sir as a guru. Even though, I am not at all qualified in any sense to write about the legend, I feel learning under his feet for a good number of twenty years and being able to witness in person the numerous classes that he has taken for various students, I would fail in my duty as student, if I do not write about him.
First of all, he is such a humble person, when it comes to dealing with his students.The great vidwan will vanish and a simple teacher will be in front of us. One need not be a performing musician to become his student. If he finds that a student can sing to some extent, he would gladly take him under his wings. Patience, personified! I have never seen him get angry when a student does not understand something or even sings badly. He gets immensely disturbed only when he finds students being lazy and never practice.Each student is taught in a way best suited to them.I have seen the same krithi taking various shades when taught to a senior and a beginner. Wonder of wonders is that even if the student forgets the way in which he taught a particular krithi, he would never! The same evening we would hear the same krithi in his concert and it would be totally different. Many days I have wondered how he is able to stoop to our level while he is capable of making a jewel out of the krithi himself.
He used to teach students with the help of the veena to make them understand better. When he finds some student worthy of learning, then there is no stopping at all. Whole heartedly he will tell ten things, when u ask for one. He will also add, "If not today, one day when you get the understanding all these things will fall in place" The humane side of Sri TNS is something which one has to experience. He is such a compassionate teacher. From the lowest level of how to sing the varisais, to teaching a complicated pallavi, he does with utmost devotion.He is a teacher par excellence.
All of us who have had the good fortune of learning under him are truly blessed. We have been shaped into performing artists, teachers and wonderful rasikas. I personally feel that even a thousand births are not enough for me to repay what he has given to me musically, and also in shaping me into a good human being.
I could site several instances, not in this thread, but should write a book!
Sri Gurubyo Namahah!
First of all, he is such a humble person, when it comes to dealing with his students.The great vidwan will vanish and a simple teacher will be in front of us. One need not be a performing musician to become his student. If he finds that a student can sing to some extent, he would gladly take him under his wings. Patience, personified! I have never seen him get angry when a student does not understand something or even sings badly. He gets immensely disturbed only when he finds students being lazy and never practice.Each student is taught in a way best suited to them.I have seen the same krithi taking various shades when taught to a senior and a beginner. Wonder of wonders is that even if the student forgets the way in which he taught a particular krithi, he would never! The same evening we would hear the same krithi in his concert and it would be totally different. Many days I have wondered how he is able to stoop to our level while he is capable of making a jewel out of the krithi himself.
He used to teach students with the help of the veena to make them understand better. When he finds some student worthy of learning, then there is no stopping at all. Whole heartedly he will tell ten things, when u ask for one. He will also add, "If not today, one day when you get the understanding all these things will fall in place" The humane side of Sri TNS is something which one has to experience. He is such a compassionate teacher. From the lowest level of how to sing the varisais, to teaching a complicated pallavi, he does with utmost devotion.He is a teacher par excellence.
All of us who have had the good fortune of learning under him are truly blessed. We have been shaped into performing artists, teachers and wonderful rasikas. I personally feel that even a thousand births are not enough for me to repay what he has given to me musically, and also in shaping me into a good human being.
I could site several instances, not in this thread, but should write a book!
Sri Gurubyo Namahah!
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rajeshnat
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Mods,
Can we move this general posts of amrithavarshini and sr in Shri TNS thread
http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php? ... an-p3.html
All,
Let us continue in that thread.
Can we move this general posts of amrithavarshini and sr in Shri TNS thread
http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php? ... an-p3.html
All,
Let us continue in that thread.
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sarojaRamanujam
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Thank you all who have written in detail about the accomplishments of TNS ,some of them not known to the rasikas like me. With the permission of the members I will upload the sam in my website on TNS www.freewebs.com/sarojaramanujam to keep a permanent record of the same.
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sarojaRamanujam
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"I could site several instances, not in this thread, but should write a book!" _ SR
Well SR. why don't you do it !I will be the first one to buy it!
Well SR. why don't you do it !I will be the first one to buy it!
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sarojaRamanujam
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"TNS has set several verses of the Kambaramayanam to music. All India Radio has archived this too" _Amrthavarshini
I think that he had set to music 1000 verses or so. But only few are recorded. Is that what in the adchives of AIR? If so it has been uploaded on the internet and I can upload the same if any one wants. His kambaramanyan songs are itself an epic. You can relish the poetry of Kaman as well as the sentiment with which he has written. I have written about it in more detail in my writings on his kambaramayana harikatha.
vide www.freewebs.com/sarojaramanujam
Please go to all the links and one on TNSthe legend which contains the page harikathasiromani. I have also written in detail about his lecdem on Muthiah bhagavathar in Music academy in 2006 and about his comments on the lecdems of others as the preident of the conference, everyone of them being a lecdem on its own which shows the depth of knowledge and research he has done on everything he touches.To do credit to his resarch work one doctorate is not enough!
I think that he had set to music 1000 verses or so. But only few are recorded. Is that what in the adchives of AIR? If so it has been uploaded on the internet and I can upload the same if any one wants. His kambaramanyan songs are itself an epic. You can relish the poetry of Kaman as well as the sentiment with which he has written. I have written about it in more detail in my writings on his kambaramayana harikatha.
vide www.freewebs.com/sarojaramanujam
Please go to all the links and one on TNSthe legend which contains the page harikathasiromani. I have also written in detail about his lecdem on Muthiah bhagavathar in Music academy in 2006 and about his comments on the lecdems of others as the preident of the conference, everyone of them being a lecdem on its own which shows the depth of knowledge and research he has done on everything he touches.To do credit to his resarch work one doctorate is not enough!
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sarojaRamanujam
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Amruthavarshini
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I hope many of you would have visited this blog. I am sending the link for ones who haven't. Thought it would be appropriate to send it in this context where TNS as a guru is being discussed. This is a blog of T.N.S. Krishna, son of TNS, where he has explained about his Guru.
http://sriramajayam.blogspot.com/2004_0 ... chive.html
http://sriramajayam.blogspot.com/2004_0 ... chive.html
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sarojaRamanujam
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The blog URL of TNSKrishna was given by someone in this group quite sometime back. I do not remember who did it and when. I had even incorporated it in my website on TNS with more photos.
www.freewebs.com/sarojaramanujam
Enjoy listening to the music of TNS while you browse through
www.freewebs.com/sarojaramanujam
Enjoy listening to the music of TNS while you browse through
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saptaratna
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TNS is a truly a masterly and adventurous artist.
Only an artist who is mightily adventurous and not afraid to take risks, outshines others. TNS is one such aritst who challenges himself and has rediscovered himself , heartily taking risks and setting higher and higher goal posts for himself. He is a dheera parakraman as far as his musical feats are concerned. And at no point in time has he sacrificed classicism or traditionality at the altar of experimentation or explorations.
His emerging as a full fledged Harikatha aritist as late as 2003 , is the best example. After gaining considerable standing in the vocal music arena, he launched himself in another dimension and has been a successful , true Harikatha artist at that.
Another dimesion is also of a challenging teacher. Dr.Hamsini Nagendra, an artist from Bangalore, is a visually impaired lady, who has been groomed by him into a full fledged carnatic vocalist and she can sing difficult pallavis with consummate ease, all due to the tutelage of this mighty vidwan. She has completed her Phd, and he has assisted her through that phase.
One more dimension of TNS, is that of an avid Botanist. He is a B.sc in Botany, Zoology from Madras University and his love for plants and the aesthetic touch he lends to all the plants he grows, is to be seen to be believed !!
Also any person who is fairly interested in music and music related topics,, with a genuine intention of dialogue and debate, can draw extensively from conversing with him, which will have colourful and kaleidoscopic dimensions.
Only an artist who is mightily adventurous and not afraid to take risks, outshines others. TNS is one such aritst who challenges himself and has rediscovered himself , heartily taking risks and setting higher and higher goal posts for himself. He is a dheera parakraman as far as his musical feats are concerned. And at no point in time has he sacrificed classicism or traditionality at the altar of experimentation or explorations.
His emerging as a full fledged Harikatha aritist as late as 2003 , is the best example. After gaining considerable standing in the vocal music arena, he launched himself in another dimension and has been a successful , true Harikatha artist at that.
Another dimesion is also of a challenging teacher. Dr.Hamsini Nagendra, an artist from Bangalore, is a visually impaired lady, who has been groomed by him into a full fledged carnatic vocalist and she can sing difficult pallavis with consummate ease, all due to the tutelage of this mighty vidwan. She has completed her Phd, and he has assisted her through that phase.
One more dimension of TNS, is that of an avid Botanist. He is a B.sc in Botany, Zoology from Madras University and his love for plants and the aesthetic touch he lends to all the plants he grows, is to be seen to be believed !!
Also any person who is fairly interested in music and music related topics,, with a genuine intention of dialogue and debate, can draw extensively from conversing with him, which will have colourful and kaleidoscopic dimensions.
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thodiragam
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sarojaRamanujam
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Thank you for the further details Saptaratna. I have included all the details in my website www.freewebs.com/sarojaramanujam
in the page aboutTNS and have added aphoto also to your post ,of him tending flowers!
in the page aboutTNS and have added aphoto also to your post ,of him tending flowers!
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Sangathi
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Hello Saptaratna,
Please do not write this kind of false and rong statements. The fact that, he has assisted her for her Ph.D programme is far from truth. The actual fact will be known only to Vidushi Dr. Hamsini Nagendra herself.
Please do not write this kind of false and rong statements. The fact that, he has assisted her for her Ph.D programme is far from truth. The actual fact will be known only to Vidushi Dr. Hamsini Nagendra herself.
saptaratna wrote:TNS is a truly a masterly and adventurous artist.
Only an artist who is mightily adventurous and not afraid to take risks, outshines others. TNS is one such aritst who challenges himself and has rediscovered himself , heartily taking risks and setting higher and higher goal posts for himself. He is a dheera parakraman as far as his musical feats are concerned. And at no point in time has he sacrificed classicism or traditionality at the altar of experimentation or explorations.
His emerging as a full fledged Harikatha aritist as late as 2003 , is the best example. After gaining considerable standing in the vocal music arena, he launched himself in another dimension and has been a successful , true Harikatha artist at that.
Another dimesion is also of a challenging teacher. Dr.Hamsini Nagendra, an artist from Bangalore, is a visually impaired lady, who has been groomed by him into a full fledged carnatic vocalist and she can sing difficult pallavis with consummate ease, all due to the tutelage of this mighty vidwan. She has completed her Phd, and he has assisted her through that phase.
One more dimension of TNS, is that of an avid Botanist. He is a B.sc in Botany, Zoology from Madras University and his love for plants and the aesthetic touch he lends to all the plants he grows, is to be seen to be believed !!
Also any person who is fairly interested in music and music related topics,, with a genuine intention of dialogue and debate, can draw extensively from conversing with him, which will have colourful and kaleidoscopic dimensions.
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saptaratna
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Sangathi,
Pls note that I have only said "assisted" and not "guided". (as technical guidance in a Phd).
Being a Guru, he has helped mould her thought process and he has also written a foreword for the book by her, which is also available commercially. Any worthy student will appreciate the goodwill and effort that her guru would take on her behalf and in turn the guru also feels happy and proud of such a student.
The intention is here is not to rake a controversy.
The idea here is to just bring to the notice of the rasikas, the challenge that the vidwan has taken in training and moulding , a sishya, that too, a person, with a challenge.
Just as a teacher needs a committed student, a student also needs a committed guru and increasingly the committment from teachers is becoming a question. It was only in this context that this was written.
Dear Administrator: Pls may we close this thread? Sorry to have even lengthened it to this level.
Saptaratna
Pls note that I have only said "assisted" and not "guided". (as technical guidance in a Phd).
Being a Guru, he has helped mould her thought process and he has also written a foreword for the book by her, which is also available commercially. Any worthy student will appreciate the goodwill and effort that her guru would take on her behalf and in turn the guru also feels happy and proud of such a student.
The intention is here is not to rake a controversy.
The idea here is to just bring to the notice of the rasikas, the challenge that the vidwan has taken in training and moulding , a sishya, that too, a person, with a challenge.
Just as a teacher needs a committed student, a student also needs a committed guru and increasingly the committment from teachers is becoming a question. It was only in this context that this was written.
Dear Administrator: Pls may we close this thread? Sorry to have even lengthened it to this level.
Saptaratna
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Hamsini
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Hello all,
I am Dr. Hamsini Nagendra, a student of respected Guru Sri T N Seshagopalan Sir since allmost 13 years and he has been our most respected and reverd Guru. He may not be my official gide from the University but, when ever I had any doubt or when ever I approached him for any clarification, he has happyly obliged and clarified my doubts. Please do not unnecessorily complicate the matter.
I am Dr. Hamsini Nagendra, a student of respected Guru Sri T N Seshagopalan Sir since allmost 13 years and he has been our most respected and reverd Guru. He may not be my official gide from the University but, when ever I had any doubt or when ever I approached him for any clarification, he has happyly obliged and clarified my doubts. Please do not unnecessorily complicate the matter.
saptaratna wrote:Sangathi,
Pls note that I have only said "assisted" and not "guided". (as technical guidance in a Phd).
Being a Guru, he has helped mould her thought process and he has also written a foreword for the book by her, which is also available commercially. Any worthy student will appreciate the goodwill and effort that her guru would take on her behalf and in turn the guru also feels happy and proud of such a student.
The intention is here is not to rake a controversy.
The idea here is to just bring to the notice of the rasikas, the challenge that the vidwan has taken in training and moulding , a sishya, that too, a person, with a challenge.
Just as a teacher needs a committed student, a student also needs a committed guru and increasingly the committment from teachers is becoming a question. It was only in this context that this was written.
Dear Administrator: Pls may we close this thread? Sorry to have even lengthened it to this level.
Saptaratna
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sarojaRamanujam
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Here the wood has been missed for the trees! The idea saptaratna wanted to convey was that TNS had helped Hamsini a visually impaired scholar. The word guided must have been used in the strict dictionary meaning of the term. Often we miss the real meaning in quibbling over the words. Saptarana said TNS giuded her in her research and did not say that he was her guide in research in the professional capacity. But one thing should be noted here. !. Being her music guru naturally she would have asked him for any info. 2. In my opinion he would have been more than her guide in helping her in her research because no professional guide could have done more than what TNS could do.I am also a Ph D and I should know! In this context it is unfortunate that instead of acclaim for TNS for teaching a visually impaired student to the capacty of a full fledged performing artist or for Hamsini for having achieved more than what many with full vision could not , It made her come out with an expalnation and clarification. Let us understand the spirit with which the words are uttered and not the words literally.
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rajaglan
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I know why TNS is not given a PhD.
Normally for a PhD , you should specialise in a subject and become a specialist in that field.
Say for example a Varnam specialist, or an RTP specialist or HM in CM specialist or specialise
in HMB krithis or Thodi specialist or some specific raga specialist.
And TNS is specialist in so many fields in CM (and not only that he is in to Veena and
Kathakalshepam ) and I guess the universities are wondering what is the right topic
to pick for honouring him.
Just a joke , only to complement him.
Normally for a PhD , you should specialise in a subject and become a specialist in that field.
Say for example a Varnam specialist, or an RTP specialist or HM in CM specialist or specialise
in HMB krithis or Thodi specialist or some specific raga specialist.
And TNS is specialist in so many fields in CM (and not only that he is in to Veena and
Kathakalshepam ) and I guess the universities are wondering what is the right topic
to pick for honouring him.
Just a joke , only to complement him.
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Hamsini
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Hello,
Please anybody do not use the word visually impaired, offon. It is a request and I do not like it.
Please anybody do not use the word visually impaired, offon. It is a request and I do not like it.
sarojaRamanujam wrote:Here the wood has been missed for the trees! The idea saptaratna wanted to convey was that TNS had helped Hamsini a visually impaired scholar. The word guided must have been used in the strict dictionary meaning of the term. Often we miss the real meaning in quibbling over the words. Saptarana said TNS giuded her in her research and did not say that he was her guide in research in the professional capacity. But one thing should be noted here. !. Being her music guru naturally she would have asked him for any info. 2. In my opinion he would have been more than her guide in helping her in her research because no professional guide could have done more than what TNS could do.I am also a Ph D and I should know! In this context it is unfortunate that instead of acclaim for TNS for teaching a visually impaired student to the capacty of a full fledged performing artist or for Hamsini for having achieved more than what many with full vision could not , It made her come out with an expalnation and clarification. Let us understand the spirit with which the words are uttered and not the words literally.
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kunjammaal
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