Performance of Gayathri Girish, Muthiah Baghavathar day
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Smt. Gayathri Girish will perform at cultural centre , BTM Layout on 23/1at 5.30 pm , rendering kritis of Muthiah Bhagavathar I specially requested her thro e mail on behalf of members of rasikas.org to give a lec-dem on grahabedham in raagas for an hour after the performance from 8pm to 9pm , for which she has graciously agreed. I am sure all members will utilise this opportunity. gobilalitha
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s_hari, we people from tamilnadu, Andhra and kerala feel any temperatue less than22 , to be a coldwave. At the same time, despite the weather conditions,you could have seen several bhajanai ghoshtis with mufflers,woolen blankets covering the bodies doing the rounds singing divine bhajans, at the end of which being served with mouth watering very tasty hot ven pongal in dhonnais. the pepper in the pongal pepping up the sore throats. eagerly expecting to meet you in GG's performance gobilalitha
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Well, the Gobilalithas and I made it to the concert--one of a series of concerts, each on a different vAggEyakAra. Couldn't spot any other forumites. The hall was full. Wish someone would post a review. Since I am not qualified to do that, here is the song list and my impressions of a very satisfying performance by Gayatri Girish.
BTM Cultural Academy, J P Nagar, Bengaluru--23rd of JAnuary 2009 ; Harikesanallur Muthiah Bhagavatar's compositions
Vocal: Gayatri Girish
piTilu: Nalina Mohan
mrudangam: Cheluvaraju
khanjira: Vyasa Vittala
ghaTam: Kartik Mani
1: mana mOhana mOhanam aTa tALa varNam
2: Sakti gaNapatim nATai
3: SaraNam vijaya sarasvati vijaya sarasvati
4: manamu kAvalEnu sahAna
5: giri priyam katana kutUhalam
6: sArasa daLa nayanE sAramati
7 saravaNa bhavA paSupatipriya
8: manadiRkkiSainda maNALan SankarAbharaNam
Tani
9: vAncatO karNa ranjani
10: umE ninagE SrI
11: tillAna hamsAnandi
12: mangaLam pantuvarALi
I hadn't listened to Gayatri Girish in two years. I had liked the few performances I had been to then. It turned out to be a very pleasant evening for me because I hadn't heard in succession this many HMB krutis before. I like him even more and thought that GG gave a solid performance. There was variety in her choice--in deities, mood and texture. It made me realize that like a fine craftsman building an edifice, MB builds on sangatis, and it is obvious when one listens to his songs one after the other.
GG had chosen many songs with ciTta svarams which added livliness to the concert. She has a sweet but 'strong' voice (as the organiser said).The bhAvam of each song was brought out effectively by her.
The SankarAbharaNam main sounded like a pallavi in its depth and delienation. I wondered if HBM had hummed it to himself as a pallavi line (even sang it as such, who knows?). It goes like this: manadirkkiSainda maNALan, Sendil mA nagar vAzh vaDi vElan.
GG sang the rAgam with gusto and did some kaNakku too (what do I know?).
This brings me to the accompanists. Nalina Mohan is a solid accompanist to have on the violin. Cheluvaraju the mrudangist always makes me feel that you can enjoy his intricate playing even if you are a novice. He is energetic but his sound is very pleasing. I don't think I have heard Vyasa Vittala on the khanjira before, but liked his playing a lot. I had half a mind to ask him if he was related to Amrut. Looks a bit like him and sounds similar too to my ears.Kartik Mani added spice to percussion with his ghatam.
rAgam vijaya sarasvati was a brand new one for me. sAramati was emotive. The pantuvarALi mangaLam was refreshing. GG sounded like a student of TNS at times, and in her imaginative expression.
I had a very good evening listening to HMB's creations, rendered very well by vidushi Gayatri Girish.
BTM Cultural Academy, J P Nagar, Bengaluru--23rd of JAnuary 2009 ; Harikesanallur Muthiah Bhagavatar's compositions
Vocal: Gayatri Girish
piTilu: Nalina Mohan
mrudangam: Cheluvaraju
khanjira: Vyasa Vittala
ghaTam: Kartik Mani
1: mana mOhana mOhanam aTa tALa varNam
2: Sakti gaNapatim nATai
3: SaraNam vijaya sarasvati vijaya sarasvati
4: manamu kAvalEnu sahAna
5: giri priyam katana kutUhalam
6: sArasa daLa nayanE sAramati
7 saravaNa bhavA paSupatipriya
8: manadiRkkiSainda maNALan SankarAbharaNam
Tani
9: vAncatO karNa ranjani
10: umE ninagE SrI
11: tillAna hamsAnandi
12: mangaLam pantuvarALi
I hadn't listened to Gayatri Girish in two years. I had liked the few performances I had been to then. It turned out to be a very pleasant evening for me because I hadn't heard in succession this many HMB krutis before. I like him even more and thought that GG gave a solid performance. There was variety in her choice--in deities, mood and texture. It made me realize that like a fine craftsman building an edifice, MB builds on sangatis, and it is obvious when one listens to his songs one after the other.
GG had chosen many songs with ciTta svarams which added livliness to the concert. She has a sweet but 'strong' voice (as the organiser said).The bhAvam of each song was brought out effectively by her.
The SankarAbharaNam main sounded like a pallavi in its depth and delienation. I wondered if HBM had hummed it to himself as a pallavi line (even sang it as such, who knows?). It goes like this: manadirkkiSainda maNALan, Sendil mA nagar vAzh vaDi vElan.
GG sang the rAgam with gusto and did some kaNakku too (what do I know?).
This brings me to the accompanists. Nalina Mohan is a solid accompanist to have on the violin. Cheluvaraju the mrudangist always makes me feel that you can enjoy his intricate playing even if you are a novice. He is energetic but his sound is very pleasing. I don't think I have heard Vyasa Vittala on the khanjira before, but liked his playing a lot. I had half a mind to ask him if he was related to Amrut. Looks a bit like him and sounds similar too to my ears.Kartik Mani added spice to percussion with his ghatam.
rAgam vijaya sarasvati was a brand new one for me. sAramati was emotive. The pantuvarALi mangaLam was refreshing. GG sounded like a student of TNS at times, and in her imaginative expression.
I had a very good evening listening to HMB's creations, rendered very well by vidushi Gayatri Girish.
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It was once again a memorable performance , attended by a big appreciative, knowledgable audience,. Every song was a gem enjoyed immensely by the audience. Each song was full of bhava complemented by natural birghasand nreavals wherever appropriate. the alapanas of shankarabharanam and saramati were leisurely , classy, exposing abundant vidwat. The former which provides ample scope for elaboration , being a major raaga was exploited fully to the satisfaction of the audience. THE alapana of saramati with inbuilt pathos was soothingly rendered. The neraval of manadukkisainda valli manalan and the garland of swaras following it sent the crowd into raptures.The accompanying artists , especially the veteran Cheluvaraju on mridangam lent adequate support to main artist, earning a round of applause from the audience. Smt . Gayathri paid tribute to the wonderful audience. Probably , the large appreciative audience enthused her to give her best .gobilalitha. MODERATORS ,CAN THIS REPORT from ARASI AND MYSELF BE MOVED TO THE THREAD 'REVIEW OF KUTCHERIS ?
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ragapriya82 wrote:Vijayasaraswati is a beautiful Raga. i have heard TNS sing it in detail.
Yes, indeed.
There is a commercial album by TNS (on HMB krithis) and it has Vijayasaraswathi (saranam VS).
It has janaranjini, sahana, niroshta, saramathi, KHPriya, Mohanam.
It is a very good album by hmv, rpg now.
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(*** Edited out ***)arasi wrote:Well, the Gobilalithas and I made it to the concert--one of a series of concerts, each on a different vAggEyakAra. Couldn't spot any other forumites. The hall was full. Wish someone would post a review. Since I am not qualified to do that, here is the song list and my impressions of a very satisfying performance by Gayatri Girish.
BTM Cultural Academy, J P Nagar, Bengaluru--23rd of JAnuary 2009 ; Harikesanallur Muthiah Bhagavatar's compositions
Vocal: Gayatri Girish
piTilu: Nalina Mohan
mrudangam: Cheluvaraju
khanjira: Vyasa Vittala
ghaTam: Kartik Mani
1: mana mOhana mOhanam aTa tALa varNam
2: Sakti gaNapatim nATai
3: SaraNam vijaya sarasvati vijaya sarasvati
4: manamu kAvalEnu sahAna
5: giri priyam katana kutUhalam
6: sArasa daLa nayanE sAramati
7 saravaNa bhavA paSupatipriya
8: manadiRkkiSainda maNALan SankarAbharaNam
Tani
9: vAncatO karNa ranjani
10: umE ninagE SrI
11: tillAna hamsAnandi
12: mangaLam pantuvarALi
I hadn't listened to Gayatri Girish in two years. I had liked the few performances I had been to then. It turned out to be a very pleasant evening for me because I hadn't heard in succession this many HMB krutis before. I like him even more and thought that GG gave a solid performance. There was variety in her choice--in deities, mood and texture. It made me realize that like a fine craftsman building an edifice, MB builds on sangatis, and it is obvious when one listens to his songs one after the other.
GG had chosen many songs with ciTta svarams which added livliness to the concert. She has a sweet but 'strong' voice (as the organiser said).The bhAvam of each song was brought out effectively by her.
The SankarAbharaNam main sounded like a pallavi in its depth and delienation. I wondered if HBM had hummed it to himself as a pallavi line (even sang it as such, who knows?). It goes like this: manadirkkiSainda maNALan, Sendil mA nagar vAzh vaDi vElan.
GG sang the rAgam with gusto and did some kaNakku too (what do I know?).
This brings me to the accompanists. Nalina Mohan is a solid accompanist to have on the violin. Cheluvaraju the mrudangist always makes me feel that you can enjoy his intricate playing even if you are a novice. He is energetic but his sound is very pleasing. I don't think I have heard Vyasa Vittala on the khanjira before, but liked his playing a lot. I had half a mind to ask him if he was related to Amrut. Looks a bit like him and sounds similar too to my ears.Kartik Mani added spice to percussion with his ghatam.
rAgam vijaya sarasvati was a brand new one for me. sAramati was emotive. The pantuvarALi mangaLam was refreshing. GG sounded like a student of TNS at times, and in her imaginative expression.
I had a very good evening listening to HMB's creations, rendered very well by vidushi Gayatri Girish.
Warned to be careful in the language used in future.
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it is not worth discussing!
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Arulum arivum illatha Kovil,
Isn't it possible that she might not have intentionally concealed the fact that the chittaswarams were composed by TNS?
I really pity rasikas.org for holding such rude and nonsensical posts from characters like you. If "courtesy" also means politeness, you have something to learn both in the spelling and meaning. Hope you take this "opportunity" to correct your spellings, although your manners appear to be beyond repair.
Isn't it possible that she might not have intentionally concealed the fact that the chittaswarams were composed by TNS?
I really pity rasikas.org for holding such rude and nonsensical posts from characters like you. If "courtesy" also means politeness, you have something to learn both in the spelling and meaning. Hope you take this "opportunity" to correct your spellings, although your manners appear to be beyond repair.
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I wish that people learn how to post reviews constructively:
For instance
Point number 2: The TNS' school/bANi is about improvisation. I have heard other students of Sri Sankarasivan who sound NOTHING like Sri TNS - that doesn't detract from the mAhAvidvAn one bit. So, GG may be his best disciple yet, along those lines. If we take that reasoning further, those who 'sound' exactly like him are poor imitations at best - maybe why, Smt GG seems to be going places, unlike those that SING EXACTLY like him!
And finally, if you truly feel something is not worth discussing, put your money/keyboard where your mouth/thought is, and kindly desist from discussing/posting.
For instance
could be written as 'I did not appreciate where or how she sounded like TNS' student' (Kovil - just because you did not/could not appreciate it, doesn't mean that others did not/could not - unless you claim to be the be all and end all in this)no where she sounded like TNS's student.
Point number 2: The TNS' school/bANi is about improvisation. I have heard other students of Sri Sankarasivan who sound NOTHING like Sri TNS - that doesn't detract from the mAhAvidvAn one bit. So, GG may be his best disciple yet, along those lines. If we take that reasoning further, those who 'sound' exactly like him are poor imitations at best - maybe why, Smt GG seems to be going places, unlike those that SING EXACTLY like him!
And finally, if you truly feel something is not worth discussing, put your money/keyboard where your mouth/thought is, and kindly desist from discussing/posting.
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rshankar, sage advice! To add to your second point, I'd argue that NO sishya should strive to just imitate or sound like his/her guru. CM is all about manodharma, and even as one learns from a certain guru and imbibes his/her style, he/she should strive to use it only as a base on which to carry forth and build his/her own style. My violin guru would always tell me- you should only learn my techniques from me. Everything else you choose to do should be independent and purely reflective of your personal sense of aesthetics.
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I just went, listened and put down my impressions. I do believe in positive criticism which does not mean that I like to flatter performers! An encouraging word helps the performers (whatever their age or stage in life) than a sleuth of scathing criticism. I know a few performers (slightly, in most cases), but that does not influence my responses to their singing or playing. If we are hoping for a better CM world, we better encourage what is out there and the possibilities that exist for them to grow. That is better than aiming negative criticism at artistes. Even if I don't think highly of a particular performer's personality, my response to his or her singing should not influence my impressions about the performer's merits.
I agree with many of the posters here and elsewhere. I am tired of seeing many a thread going awry because of negativity. It is not as if I only like rose gardens, but my! All the thorns that I come across makes me feel desolate. My own problem is all this gabbing. May be time for me to impose a gag order on myself, at least temporarily. Sigh...
I agree with many of the posters here and elsewhere. I am tired of seeing many a thread going awry because of negativity. It is not as if I only like rose gardens, but my! All the thorns that I come across makes me feel desolate. My own problem is all this gabbing. May be time for me to impose a gag order on myself, at least temporarily. Sigh...
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Hi,
I was shocked looking at kovil's posting. It was simply a bashing with 'intention'. Not sure what it is.
I now feel what TMK said in his reply is correct. And looks like anonymity gives some people too much freedom.
May be kovil is a known person in this forum.
I think HMB is such a great gifted composer in many languages and to give a thematic concert
on him before a crowd itself is a unique qualification in CM circle. And thanks to GG for that.
I cannot comment on the concert as I didnot attend that. Anyway, let us give both +ve and -ve
feedbacks always and also moderate it as though the artist is our close relative.
I was shocked looking at kovil's posting. It was simply a bashing with 'intention'. Not sure what it is.
I now feel what TMK said in his reply is correct. And looks like anonymity gives some people too much freedom.
May be kovil is a known person in this forum.
I think HMB is such a great gifted composer in many languages and to give a thematic concert
on him before a crowd itself is a unique qualification in CM circle. And thanks to GG for that.
I cannot comment on the concert as I didnot attend that. Anyway, let us give both +ve and -ve
feedbacks always and also moderate it as though the artist is our close relative.
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> May be kovil is a known person in this forum.
he/she registered yesterday and IIRC moments before that post - this was known because kovil was shown as the "newest registered user" moments after the post appeared. Btw, one of the people who countered also registered yesterday.
People taking the trouble to register just to bash someone under the cloak of anonymity. Somethings never change.
Arun
he/she registered yesterday and IIRC moments before that post - this was known because kovil was shown as the "newest registered user" moments after the post appeared. Btw, one of the people who countered also registered yesterday.
People taking the trouble to register just to bash someone under the cloak of anonymity. Somethings never change.
Arun
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Dear Kovil
Being battle-weary I do not have the stomach to start another duel. Your post is in bad taste since there is no substance. If you wished to comment on the program objectively that would be appreciated by our membership. On the otherhand you have let loose sweeping statements attacking the artiste with unsubstatiated opinions. Freedom of speech entails responsibility as we do not tolerate wanton loose cannons. Though I am not editing your post let me just warn you to be more careful in future or lose posting previleges.
'rshankar' has given you a first lesson!
Being battle-weary I do not have the stomach to start another duel. Your post is in bad taste since there is no substance. If you wished to comment on the program objectively that would be appreciated by our membership. On the otherhand you have let loose sweeping statements attacking the artiste with unsubstatiated opinions. Freedom of speech entails responsibility as we do not tolerate wanton loose cannons. Though I am not editing your post let me just warn you to be more careful in future or lose posting previleges.
'rshankar' has given you a first lesson!
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Being a Harikesa fan myself,I dont regret that I didnt attend the concert.I am quite tired of listening to the same "hits" everytime there is a Harikesa concert,except for a few new ones here and there.There seems to be no effort to popularize many of his other kritis.
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Member karthik is correct, HMB has composed more than thousand songs, He has composed Siva ashtothtra keerthanas chamundeswari ashtothara keerthanas many patriotic songs , tamil songs and even folk songs, except a few ones no effort has been taken by musicians to popularize them. I heard few new songs of HMB in 2008 Dec season rendered by sri T N Seshagopalan sir.
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Well, Bangalore Sankar definitely sings quite a few of HMB's krithis....as has Nagavalli Nagaraj, MS Sheela, Mysore Ramamrutham.
Mysore brothers on the violin...literally every concert they play has a HMB krithi. Amongst the chennai brigade, TNS keeps aloft the flag....Sanjay sings the odd one here or there, tho he is mostly into other tamil composers of the inncuous and not-so-innocuous variety...I am happy that they even have a Muthiah Bhagavathar day. In terms of not-often-heard HMB krithis, I am not sure of anyone in recent times. Kalyanaraman has sung quite a few HMB krithis that I have not heard anyone else sing.
Are there any commercial cd's of artists singing HMB's krithis? Would be interested in purchasing them...HMB's raga bhaava is what enchants me..as is evident through his compositions. Dont know if he ever sang an RTP in Desh or Jhonpuri....but he sure did compose in some thrilling raagas, with exhilarating sangathais.
Mysore brothers on the violin...literally every concert they play has a HMB krithi. Amongst the chennai brigade, TNS keeps aloft the flag....Sanjay sings the odd one here or there, tho he is mostly into other tamil composers of the inncuous and not-so-innocuous variety...I am happy that they even have a Muthiah Bhagavathar day. In terms of not-often-heard HMB krithis, I am not sure of anyone in recent times. Kalyanaraman has sung quite a few HMB krithis that I have not heard anyone else sing.
Are there any commercial cd's of artists singing HMB's krithis? Would be interested in purchasing them...HMB's raga bhaava is what enchants me..as is evident through his compositions. Dont know if he ever sang an RTP in Desh or Jhonpuri....but he sure did compose in some thrilling raagas, with exhilarating sangathais.
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"I really pity TNS for having such sishyas!"
***(edited). But I dont think there is any need for him or her to pity TNS. Whether the sishya has learnt directly under him or learnt from tapes, which he gives them during the class, or to go one step ahead, with the help of tapes stealthily procured or recorded with the many gadgets during his concerts!, when the sishya sings, audience could easily relate from where it has come from. Right from Neyveli Santhanagopalan, to the present day younger Kamakshi Srinivasan, one thing is very very evident. What ever good things they sing, could only be attributed to the great guru TNS.
If the sishyas are humble enough to mention that all the credit of their performance goes to the guru, then the benefit of it is more to the sishya than the guru. In this case, one (**edited) need not pity the great master at all. Whether GG mentioned that the chittaswarams are TNS' are not, the music world knows that they are indeed the great masters'.
(stop making reference to controversial postings. Be generic in your comments...)
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***(edited). But I dont think there is any need for him or her to pity TNS. Whether the sishya has learnt directly under him or learnt from tapes, which he gives them during the class, or to go one step ahead, with the help of tapes stealthily procured or recorded with the many gadgets during his concerts!, when the sishya sings, audience could easily relate from where it has come from. Right from Neyveli Santhanagopalan, to the present day younger Kamakshi Srinivasan, one thing is very very evident. What ever good things they sing, could only be attributed to the great guru TNS.
If the sishyas are humble enough to mention that all the credit of their performance goes to the guru, then the benefit of it is more to the sishya than the guru. In this case, one (**edited) need not pity the great master at all. Whether GG mentioned that the chittaswarams are TNS' are not, the music world knows that they are indeed the great masters'.
(stop making reference to controversial postings. Be generic in your comments...)
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My mother hails from Harikesanalur and is 76 now.She has fond memories of MB's visit to his home town during Skanda Shashti where all the leading musicians of south India participated.There will be festivity all around for 10 days with music programmes and harikathas almost round the clock.
My grand father Kalyanasundaram Iyer (used to call MB as Ammanji (mama's son) used to play leg harmonium every evening and people walking by would stop and listen.Once during this festive season,while my grandpa was playing Raghuvamsa sudha in Kathana Kuthukalam along with the crowd MB also silently joined and cautioned others to be quite.Once the song was over he came inside and patted my grandpa.When grandpa asked him whether he has composed anything in this raga the maestro replied that he will and the next day composed Gireedhram girija... ,called my grandpa and sang and asked him whether it is o.k.Such was his humility.
MB was a very amicable peron and my mother's chitappa Ponnu Iyer who was called Mrudhangam Ponnu Iyer accompanied MB till his life.MB offered to adopt my mother when she was 4 and take her to Mysore.Though my grandpa was willing one of his sisters who was a young widow objected vehemently and so it was discarded.
My grand father Kalyanasundaram Iyer (used to call MB as Ammanji (mama's son) used to play leg harmonium every evening and people walking by would stop and listen.Once during this festive season,while my grandpa was playing Raghuvamsa sudha in Kathana Kuthukalam along with the crowd MB also silently joined and cautioned others to be quite.Once the song was over he came inside and patted my grandpa.When grandpa asked him whether he has composed anything in this raga the maestro replied that he will and the next day composed Gireedhram girija... ,called my grandpa and sang and asked him whether it is o.k.Such was his humility.
MB was a very amicable peron and my mother's chitappa Ponnu Iyer who was called Mrudhangam Ponnu Iyer accompanied MB till his life.MB offered to adopt my mother when she was 4 and take her to Mysore.Though my grandpa was willing one of his sisters who was a young widow objected vehemently and so it was discarded.
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I am giving below the review published in Hindu ,Friday Review,Bangalore edition today
regarding the concert that is being discussed in the thread
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IMPRESSIVE Devoted performances
The17th Aradhana Sapthaha of the BTM Cultural Academy, Bangalore, featured a vocal concert by Gayathri Girish on Friday, accompanied by Nalina Mohan (violin), C. Cheluvaraju (mridanga), Vyasa Vittala (khanjari) and Karthik Mohan (ghata).
The concert, devoted entirely to the compositions of Muthaiah Bhagavathar, commenced with "Manamohana"
regarding the concert that is being discussed in the thread
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IMPRESSIVE Devoted performances
The17th Aradhana Sapthaha of the BTM Cultural Academy, Bangalore, featured a vocal concert by Gayathri Girish on Friday, accompanied by Nalina Mohan (violin), C. Cheluvaraju (mridanga), Vyasa Vittala (khanjari) and Karthik Mohan (ghata).
The concert, devoted entirely to the compositions of Muthaiah Bhagavathar, commenced with "Manamohana"
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Ganeshkant,
What a story! It adds to my few jigsaw pieces of the great man's personality (gained through family connections). The birth of a song (inspired, in many cases as with this one--your grandfather playing kathana kutUhalam on the harmonium) is always fascinating to hear about. Please ask your mother if she remembers anything more about HMB...
What a story! It adds to my few jigsaw pieces of the great man's personality (gained through family connections). The birth of a song (inspired, in many cases as with this one--your grandfather playing kathana kutUhalam on the harmonium) is always fascinating to hear about. Please ask your mother if she remembers anything more about HMB...
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This is the second instance of Gayathri Girish bashing in the space of a month. Please refer to the earlier link below:
http://rasikas.org/forums/viewtopic.php? ... sabha.html
I find that there are a lot of commonalities between both the review threads which explains why there is a method in this madness.
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(let us not dwell on personalities and their personal comments. Just be generic)
Need I say more on this pattern of thinking. Is there some sort of one up manship amongst the fans of TNS's disciples that GG is being attacked without substance ?? ("Worthy" disciples versus "unworthy" ones ?)One of the disadvantages of a public forum is that members can take advantage of anonymity to slander. It is therefore the responsibility of the genuine rasikas to expose such members who register in this forum only with an intention to slander.
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I find that there are a lot of commonalities between both the review threads which explains why there is a method in this madness.
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(let us not dwell on personalities and their personal comments. Just be generic)
Need I say more on this pattern of thinking. Is there some sort of one up manship amongst the fans of TNS's disciples that GG is being attacked without substance ?? ("Worthy" disciples versus "unworthy" ones ?)One of the disadvantages of a public forum is that members can take advantage of anonymity to slander. It is therefore the responsibility of the genuine rasikas to expose such members who register in this forum only with an intention to slander.
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Last edited by cienu on 30 Jan 2009, 15:28, edited 1 time in total.
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Thanks for the posting ganeshkant, a very nice posting on HMB. As written by somebody S.Kalyanaraman has given a special concert on HMB, it was a live concert and I have heard DKJayaraman sir rendering many krithis in concerts and has too has presented a thematic concert on HMB's krithi during late 70's.
Informationd relating to HMB can be taken to seperate thread (vidhwans vidhushis}, i think this thread is about the concert of gg.
Informationd relating to HMB can be taken to seperate thread (vidhwans vidhushis}, i think this thread is about the concert of gg.
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My view is very similar to that of cienu.
It appears to be from within circle of fans and disciples of TNS - probably expression of some
disciples who have not made the grade.
It is desirable that this stops and we focus on meaningful criticism of music in this forum.
The best person to stop this is the Guru himself appealing to his disciples and fans thru this forum to
avoid such postings
It appears to be from within circle of fans and disciples of TNS - probably expression of some
disciples who have not made the grade.
It is desirable that this stops and we focus on meaningful criticism of music in this forum.
The best person to stop this is the Guru himself appealing to his disciples and fans thru this forum to
avoid such postings
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Cienu,
Am I glad that you spoke! Wherever all this nonsense stems from--whatever the name of it, it is ugly. Like a virus it takes hold of threads and puts a halt to a better understanding of CM by way of discussions. Some of us have been politely told off for horsing around once in a while. However, humor heals while this kind of bad mouthing hurts.To be in the public eye means taking criticism as well--but not so destructive in nature as this. If criticism does not help the performer or rasikAs, I suppose it is not welcome here on the forum either.
Pallavi,
We cannot expect TNS to speak on this! Would be nice if he would
However, artiste bashing does not speak of our love for CM. It speaks of petty mindedness and rash acts.
Am I glad that you spoke! Wherever all this nonsense stems from--whatever the name of it, it is ugly. Like a virus it takes hold of threads and puts a halt to a better understanding of CM by way of discussions. Some of us have been politely told off for horsing around once in a while. However, humor heals while this kind of bad mouthing hurts.To be in the public eye means taking criticism as well--but not so destructive in nature as this. If criticism does not help the performer or rasikAs, I suppose it is not welcome here on the forum either.
Pallavi,
We cannot expect TNS to speak on this! Would be nice if he would

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I just read these posts, having been away for a while.
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Perhaps people should be able to post only (say) 2 weeks after registering. This way impulsive registrations with one "short-term-slanderous" purpose can be minimized.
(we are looking into that)
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Perhaps people should be able to post only (say) 2 weeks after registering. This way impulsive registrations with one "short-term-slanderous" purpose can be minimized.
(we are looking into that)
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I disagree with you Kamalamba. But for a very few regulars, others post about their favourite artists concerts' only. Pallavi, priyaram, your goodselves, etc. are good examples. All of you seem to write only in GG's threads. No harm in sharing views about our favourite artists. The problem occurs only when slanderous remarks are made.
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Another interesting feature! Many first time registered posts which appreciate the artists sky high are not at all critically viewed. only sensational posts (**edited)' are at the receiving end. ( lighter vein please)
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Another interesting feature! Many first time registered posts which appreciate the artists sky high are not at all critically viewed. only sensational posts (**edited)' are at the receiving end. ( lighter vein please)
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kovil's post is hanging in there still. I sort of fail to see the purpose it serves (particularly after a time lapse), unless the forum (i.e. mods) still are ok with posts of that style. Now, if mods dont approve, I would have expected some action (similar to what happened in the rahman thread). Atleast edit it with a message from mods that issues the warning - rather than a separate post.
Arun
kovil's post is hanging in there still. I sort of fail to see the purpose it serves (particularly after a time lapse), unless the forum (i.e. mods) still are ok with posts of that style. Now, if mods dont approve, I would have expected some action (similar to what happened in the rahman thread). Atleast edit it with a message from mods that issues the warning - rather than a separate post.
Arun
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