Performance of Gayathri Girish, Muthiah Baghavathar day

musicfan_4201 · Post by **musicfan_4201** » 31 Jan 2009, 12:21

cmlover wrote:rajumds
Again drawing your attention to the fact that this thread is devoted to GG.
If you are interested in chatting with me you can email me!

High Handed attitude and trying to slice others. This is not an observation from this thread but from others too.

balu · Post by **balu** » 01 Feb 2009, 17:47

the mods are absolutely right in interfering when some members crticise the artists in a nasty way.but why they are not doing anything when some members praise some particular artists to obscene level.rules should apply bothways.,

Amruthavarshini · Post by **Amruthavarshini** » 01 Feb 2009, 19:24

True, I agree. This forum is to analyse plus and minus of the artist in a particular concert. When a concert is reviewed, both negative as well as positive aspects should be analysed. In the case of GG, particularly in this forum, her concerts are praised sky high by a group of people, may be her rasikas. When some x or y does not like her music, and express their views, they are ridiculed. Why should this happen? Kovil or Sethuraman did not like her music and they expressed their feeling about it. If it is relevant we will take it, or else leave. Elsewhere in this forum a senior popular artists' performance was analaysed in bits and pieces, going to such a level of advising the artist to stop- singing.Probably the moderator did not see it then?

The registration rules could be made more stringent, so that multiple id's could be avoided.

kunjammaal · Post by **kunjammaal** » 01 Feb 2009, 19:40

what amruthavarshini has said is hundred percent true. Most of the reviews are biased and many artists that to young and upcoming are praised sky high,

Reviews should not be in the form of advise. Many members posts reviews as if they are authority in the subject, listeners are just listeners ,

gobilalitha · Post by **gobilalitha** » 02 Feb 2009, 08:02

post 52 of balu. nobody praised the artist to obscene level . Not able to understand what is 'praising to 'obscene' level. Some of us and the HINDU reported whtever good aspects they enjoyed in the concert. nothing more than that. gobilalitha

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 02 Feb 2009, 10:55

55 posts to this thread? I have heard of a hippopotamus rolling a pea

Vocalist · Post by **Vocalist** » 02 Feb 2009, 12:42

Maybe this should be wrapped up....

Chathurya · Post by **Chathurya** » 02 Feb 2009, 15:27

Amruthavarshini wrote: Kovil or Sethuraman did not like her music and they expressed their feeling about it. If it is relevant we will take it, or else leave. Elsewhere in this forum a senior popular artists' performance was analaysed in bits and pieces, going to such a level of advising the artist to stop- singing.Probably the moderator did not see it then?

The registration rules could be made more stringent, so that multiple id's could be avoided.

excellent point amruthavarshini

Ragjay · Post by **Ragjay** » 02 Feb 2009, 16:12

Reviews per se should be only concerned with the concert under review.No one has the right to make nasty comments on a personal level. The concerts reviewed may be liked by some ,disliked by others,and still others may feel indifferent. Every issue has different angles of perception, and in a forum like this such strong views of like or dislike are bound to be expressed.The bottom line is that the view expressed should not be downright insulting or nasty at a personal level. Bye Ragjay

arunk · Post by **arunk** » 02 Feb 2009, 20:56

(I guess perhaps this could be a separate discussion on say what "good practices on the forum"?)
I must say that I am puzzled that people put "excessive praise" on the same footing as "mud slinging". I see rumblings that if mud slinging is to be moderated for offensive content, then excessive praise should also be moderated. So some people find excessive praise as as quite "offensive" as mud slinging? Mud slinging is malicious - meaning worded to to bring down somebody, hurt their image. Now excessive praise is to prop-up, inflate someone or their image - artificially. Granted its not good, and it can certainly be calculative, but this is same as malice? Wow - I guess perspectives differ. I would think since we are expressing our opinions in public, for courtesy and etiquette stake, "mud slinging" should be held far more accountable i.e. in terms of being heavily discouraged, and at worst moderated.

My 2 cents.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 02 Feb 2009, 23:16

Your two cents will become a pile soon. I mean, some people think that mud slinging is better than (or is the same as) excessive praise just in the same way as in: spare the rod and spoil the child?
You can easily see through 'excessive praise' posts. Promoting the artiste, flattery and being an 'extreme' fan generates them. You can laugh them off or ignore them.
Mud slinging is a cruel sport.

sureshvv · Post by **sureshvv** » 03 Feb 2009, 22:37

Congratulations to Gayathri Girish! When the anonymous riff-raff here start hurling undue criticism and personal attacks, it is an affirmation that she is now part of the elite club of leading performers in Carnatic music. Unfortunately these annoyances are a price of success to be taken in stride.

Amruthavarshini · Post by **Amruthavarshini** » 04 Feb 2009, 11:18

Pity u Suresh.

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 04 Feb 2009, 12:16

Amrutavarshini,
I am sorry to say this, but your posts belie your name...

sureshvv · Post by **sureshvv** » 04 Feb 2009, 13:54

Amruthavarshini wrote:Pity u Suresh.

First pick up the courage to post under your real name. Then you gain the qualification to pity someone other than yourself

kamalamba · Post by **kamalamba** » 04 Feb 2009, 14:24

Amrutavarshani (Mod, if you like this post can be moved to a different thread).

I am extremely disappointed with your tone and negativity. I decided to not write for a while, but this going on and on.

You have posted 45 odd posts (28 or so praising TNS and 2 on TNS Krishna). The rest of your posts have been largely aimed at insulting and tarnishing GG, GV and Shubha Ganesan.

BTW, we love TNS as well; he is a legend.

Furthermore, even though you have mentioned that I have posted only on GG, the information is out there for you and everyone else to see; so I would prefer if you do not distort facts (some 9 or so out of my 55 odd posts are on GG; the rest on Surya Prakash, Raji Gopalakrishnan, Sanjay, ............, Vaggeyakaras, Western music, Sahityas , light classical.....)

I want to stress that this is a collegial forum; everyone is free to write about whether they liked or disliked aspects of music of any artiste. if you disliked artiste X's concert, you have two options. 1. To clearly write why you did not like the concert but with due respect to the "human being" who is the artiste as well as for the great art form that the artiste in question patronizes. 2. If you thought the artiste was "really" not to your liking, do not attend the artiste's concerts.

You are free to contact me, in case you want to further take up a dialog. e-mail me and I am even happy to send you a phone number, so that members of this nice and collegial forum do not have to be caught for ever on this topic.

cienu · Post by **cienu** » 04 Feb 2009, 15:01

My views are similar to those of Arasi, sureshvv, arun, kamalamba, gobilalitha, ragjay and a few others.

Keeping in mind CML's request I do not wish to name any member/s, but I can clearly see that there are atleast 5 members (all relatively new) who have registered with questionable intentions.

Is this a planned assault with the "member" / "members" acting under the advice of a "super commander"

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 04 Feb 2009, 20:17

Cienu,
Well said! A few here seem to be interested in the great cruel sport of mud slinging, all aiming at the same artiste too. Some coincidence!
While most of us here do not want to post on mean threads, our ignoring them completely should not encourage such rubbish to accumulate. One suggestion: all of you who like other performers (we do too), go enjoy their concerts and write something nice about them on the forum.

vasanthakokilam · Post by **vasanthakokilam** » 04 Feb 2009, 20:27

Answering cienu's question about multiple IDs, detecting it is a combination of straightforward data, some heuristics and circumstantial evidence. We try to keep an eye on such things and clear them out quietly. In general we err on the side of giving the benefit of doubt to the members to avoid false positives. That is true in general as well, the moderating action has been on the side of leniency which we all know is not to the liking of some of our members. As Nick had mentioned elsewhere, at times, this type of stuff consumes a lot of time to clean up. Fortunately, such occasions had not been too many.

Subject to the Admin's discretion, we can tighten up the enforcement on the multiple ids.

vijay · Post by **vijay** » 04 Feb 2009, 20:37

VK you've been away for a while. Good to have you back!

arasi · Post by **arasi** » 04 Feb 2009, 21:47

VK,
Hope you didn't have mounds of snow to shovel as Arun had to. I echo Vijay's words. Good to have you back on the forum after your busy days of travel. You missed quite a bit of action when you were away.Nothing of quality to write home about

karthikbala · Post by **karthikbala** » 05 Feb 2009, 12:50

no where she sounded like TNS's student.

If I am not mistaken, she has also been a student of Vaigal Gnyanaskandan. In any case, sounding like a clone of one's guru, per se is not a virtue. There are examples like Sri Trichur Ramachandran where one is appreciative of the fidelity to the style (and uncanny vocal similarity), but this is not always the case.